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[Sierra Foothills]

Yolo posted in another thread. I thought it deserved its own topic.

 

Edited September 3, 2022 by Sierra Foothills

[Doc]

So I see Shakir is backup outside WR (good), the RB's appear to be in order of what down they'll be playing (lol) and rumors of the coaching staff being down on Elam were way off.  And good to see Brown back in the starting lineup, with Quess providing decent depth.

[Sierra Foothills]

Not surprised about Elam starting nor am I surprised about Shakir or James Cook.

 

There are MANY here who believe that McKenzie is not fit to be the starting kick returner. I feel/felt he should be given another shot because his upside is pretty damn high.

 

I thought Spencer Brown would wait a few weeks behind Quessenberry before being named the starter.

Edited September 3, 2022 by Sierra Foothills

[MiltonWaddams]

5 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Not surprised about Elam starting nor am I surprised about Shakir or James Cook.

 

There are MANY here who believe that McKenzie is not fit to be the starting kick returner. I feel/felt he should be given another shot because his upside is pretty damn high.

 

I thought Spencer Brown would wait a few weeks behind Quessenberry before being named the starter.

Couldn’t have said it better. So, I will let you take the glory of that statement.

[Sierra Foothills]

Just now, MiltonWaddams said:

Couldn’t have said it better. So, I will let you take the glory of that statement.

 

[CorkScrewHill]

The thing that surprised me was Bernard leapfrogging Dodson. He had some plays, but I didn’t see him as better than Dodson at this point

[Doc]

And it appears they believe Martin can hold.  Good.

[Sierra Foothills]

1 minute ago, CorkScrewHill said:

The thing that surprised me was Bernard leapfrogging Dodson. He had some plays, but I didn’t see him as better than Dodson at this point

 

That one IS a bit weird because Dodson is listed as the backup to both Edmunds and Milano whereas Bernard is the "starting Strong-side LB"... a position the Bills almost never use.

 

I think in the Bills system SLB is incrementally the next step up from big nickel (Siran Neal) because theoretically he'll be better vs the run and weaker vs the pass than Neal but at the same time undersized for a SLB (this was the position most recently filled by AJ Klein).

 

 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

The thing that surprised me was Bernard leapfrogging Dodson. He had some plays, but I didn’t see him as better than Dodson at this point

 

That is inconsistent with what we have seen in pre-season. In all 3 LB sets Dodson was the first guy in. I still suspect that is the case.

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

The thing that surprised me was Bernard leapfrogging Dodson. He had some plays, but I didn’t see him as better than Dodson at this point

He didn’t leapfrog Dodson. Dodson is the backup mlb. Bernard is klein’s replacement 

[hemma]

Wonder who stays home.

[3rdnlng]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

And it appears they believe Martin can hold.  Good.

So, they found a suitable replacement for Lee Smith, eh? 

[Sierra Foothills]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Hopefully Browns pass blocking is a lot better this season. 

 

Because of his late-season struggles and injury-shortened offseason I was surprised to see him promoted for week one.

 

I guess the Bills are betting that Brown is better off being thrown into the fire than being eased in.

[Beck Water]

11 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Yolo posted in another thread. I thought it deserved its own topic.

 

 

Fair.

 

I guess some posters here will be relieved to see that Jake Kumerow isn't listed as the backup at outside WR behind Diggs and Davis

He's only listed as the backup WR behind Davis 😁

 

Surprises to me: 

Moss > Cook as RB2

Bernard listed as the starting SLB ahead of Dodson - I guess the team sees his pre-season performance differently than fans do

Cam Lewis listed as the backup NCB and Siran Neal listed as the backup outside CB 🤷‍♂️

 

Anyone explain that last to me, I'll be obliged

 

[Sierra Foothills]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Why would you want the Browns to have better pass blocking?

 

Scott's always had a soft spot for Jacoby Brissett.

[Mr. WEO]

22 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Not surprised about Elam starting nor am I surprised about Shakir or James Cook.

 

There are MANY here who believe that McKenzie is not fit to be the starting kick returner. I feel/felt he should be given another shot because his upside is pretty damn high.

 

I thought Spencer Brown would wait a few weeks behind Quessenberry before being named the starter.

 

The only one of those many  who mattered was McD.....

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Why would you want the Browns to have better pass blocking?

 

I think he intends you to insert an apostrophe, not a definite article

Must be one of those horrid people who omits apostrophes and cannibalizes grandma.

[Forlorn hope]

McKenzie at kr is fine. He's not a reliable PR guy. 

[Doc]

I'd rather see Cook as the KR. 

[CorkScrewHill]

20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He didn’t leapfrog Dodson. Dodson is the backup mlb. Bernard is klein’s replacement 

Per the last depth chart Dodson was the starting WLB

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/team/depth-chart

[Sierra Foothills]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The only one of those many  who mattered was McD.....

 

Of course.

 

But I was very surprised at the... outraged(?) reactions to McKenzie's kickoff fumble as well as the lack of support for again making him the returner.

[Forlorn hope]

I still think Doyle and Quess will rotate in to keep everyone fresh. Doyle is a monster run blocker. Nasty

[SoMAn]

34 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

Not surprised about Elam starting nor am I surprised about Shakir or James Cook.

 

There are MANY here who believe that McKenzie is not fit to be the starting kick returner. I feel/felt he should be given another shot because his upside is pretty damn high.

 

I thought Spencer Brown would wait a few weeks behind Quessenberry before being named the starter.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Cook gets more looks on KOs if McKenzie gets extensive time at WR. 

[The Wiz]

3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Basically anybody but McKenzie in the return game.

I'm just happy they are listing him as a starter.  Means he's gonna be ready to play thursday.

Edited September 3, 2022 by The Wiz

[MasterStrategist]

16 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Fair.

 

I guess some posters here will be relieved to see that Jake Kumerow isn't listed as the backup at outside WR behind Diggs and Davis

He's only listed as the backup WR behind Davis 😁

 

Surprises to me: 

Moss > Cook as RB2

Bernard listed as the starting SLB ahead of Dodson - I guess the team sees his pre-season performance differently than fans do

Cam Lewis listed as the backup NCB and Siran Neal listed as the backup outside CB 🤷‍♂️

 

Anyone explain that last to me, I'll be obliged

 

Doubtful that Cam is dressing on gameday. 

 

So I'd expect Neal to still be the backup to Taron.

 

Can't look at the depth chart in such a boxed way.  Same can be said about backup WR, Cooks role on offense, etc.  There will certainly be multiple formations/looks that will dictate playtime over depth chart.

[Sierra Foothills]

5 minutes ago, Forlorn hope said:

I still think Doyle and Quess will rotate in to keep everyone fresh. Doyle is a monster run blocker. Nasty

 

A few thoughts on OT:

• The idea of a rotation at ROT is interesting.
• It's also interesting that Brown, Quess, and Doyle probably block better for the run than the pass.
• You have to think the Bills really want Brown to grow into a consistent pillar like Dawkins on the other side.
• When the Bills go heavy, it might be some fun mouth smashing.

[Forlorn hope]

Inactives 

 

Sweeney

Hart 

Shaq 

Spector*

Lewis 

 

 

 

 

If they want to keep lewis or Spector, more likely Lewis

 

You don't dress kumerow

 

Cook can also play wr

2 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

A few thoughts on OT:

• The idea of a rotation at ROT is interesting.
• It's also interesting that Brown, Quess, and Doyle probably block better for the run than the pass.
• You have to think the Bills really want Brown to grow into a consistent pillar like Dawkins on the other side.
• When the Bills go heavy, it might be some fun mouth smashing.

They are going to punish teams. Can't wait

 

It's going to be the 1st year Allen won't have to do everything 

[Sierra Foothills]

3 minutes ago, Forlorn hope said:

They are going to punish teams. Can't wait

 

It's going to be the 1st year Allen won't have to do everything 

 

I tend to agree.

 

With the profile of athlete they have at O-line and the addition of Kromer plus the presence of 3 TEs and a fullback, I believe that McDermott's Neanderthal tendencies will emerge from the closet from time to time.

 

Hopefully he'll be wearing a loin cloth.

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Of course.

 

But I was very surprised at the... outraged(?) reactions to McKenzie's kickoff fumble as well as the lack of support for again making him the returner.

 

Many were simply following McD's lead.  

[Sierra Foothills]

I understand people's reservations about McKenzie's ball security issues and the importance of ball security in general but when a guy can perform feats like this, I think you have to say "He's a wide receiver so catching shouldn't continue to be a problem and besides, he's a threat to break one every time he touches it."

 

 

 

[BuffaloBill]

I thought Cook would be higher on the depth list.  However, it may just be due to blocking ability.  He will rise.

[Doc Brown]

26 minutes ago, Forlorn hope said:

McKenzie at kr is fine. He's not a reliable PR guy. 

Weren't his two biggest botched plays as a kick returner last year?

[YoloinOhio]

36 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Per the last depth chart Dodson was the starting WLB

 

https://www.buffalobills.com/team/depth-chart

Milano is the starting WLB…. 
 

they only use SLB in certain packages and that was Klein, now it is Bernard 

Edited September 3, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[YoloinOhio]

16 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

I thought Cook would be higher on the depth list.  However, it may just be due to blocking ability.  He will rise.

I think the RB usage is going to be week to week, matchup based. I see Cook as more of an offensive weapon.

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said:

The thing that surprised me was Bernard leapfrogging Dodson. He had some plays, but I didn’t see him as better than Dodson at this point

Maybe they're mad at Dodson for running his mouth on Twitter

[K-No]

Not only did Q. Morris make the final 53, he is listed ahead of Sweeney. 🤪

[HiMark]

Bernard. Very interesting.  There has been an assumption all along that we are going to roll out the same exact defense, and therefore nobody can find a role or need for Terrel.  Seeing as how we have listed 12 starters, it is clear that there are going to be some scheme changes this year.  Lots of 4-3, less of Taron.  Maybe a 50-50 split?  

I expect Bernard to be set loose as a blitzer, and I predict him as no lower than 3rd on the team in sacks.

 

[Mr. WEO]

27 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

I understand people's reservations about McKenzie's ball security issues and the importance of ball security in general but when a guy can perform feats like this, I think you have to say "He's a wide receiver so catching shouldn't continue to be a problem and besides, he's a threat to break one every time he touches it."

 

 

 

 

He's really not though.

 

Last year he had one long one of 75 and that was it.  In 2020 it was 27 with a really bad average of 16 per.  In 2019 his long was only 24 on an average of 21. 

 

He's not much of a threat back there.

[billsbackto81]

I'm concerned about our CB situation.  The WRs on the Rams, Packers, Dolphins and Chiefs are formidable. Fins a little less because of Tua but nonetheless very good. Not as worried about Tenn, Pitt or Balt. Hopefully our new D- front can get to opposing QBs before their WRs break free. 

[DCbillsfan]

37 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

That interior line depth is woofff

I think Hart is game day inactive and Quessenberry is third G.  I'm skeptical about the oline depth chart.  Unless Brown and Qberry are sharing RT snaps in this game.