Doc Brown Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I think Shakir made the WR decision (and maybe the Blackshear decision - punt returner) pretty easy as he was able to be effective outside in the preseason and secure his spot as the punt returner. Hodgins had to prove he could be an effective gunner to overtake Kumerow. He didn't. They made the right call and hopefully can put him on the practice squad and activate him if Diggs or Davis gets hurt. Blackshear was still the #4 RB despite flashing in preseason so there wasn't a spot for him. Maybe develop him on the practice squad as his blocking needs to improve. He'll have the inside track to split carries with Moss or Singletary next year if one of them gets released. If some team snatches him. Oh well. Sweeney is the correct answer here. I thought Howard and Morris were the better blockers and pass catchers. He provides no special teams value. It's not good when the main argument is he's well liked in the locker room. So are orange slices at halftime (do they still do that?) but I'm not giving them a roster spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I’ll say Sweeney. Stevenson is going to IR. I get his big-play ability appealing to the Bills. I don’t understand what Sweeney does well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ll say Sweeney. Stevenson is going to IR. I get his big-play ability appealing to the Bills. I don’t understand what Sweeney does well? Has Stevenson shown any big play ability though? I mean I get in theory he has it. But don't you eventually have to put something on film? He is either hurt or running into backsides every time he is on the field. Hia best chance to make an impact in the NFL would be as a double for the Sanchize! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Stevenson (unless running into the ass of your teammates is now a thing I am not sure what value he adds) Sweeney (bad at football) Hart (I get that people can improve but this would need to be Clark Kent's unattractive, half-brother turning into Superman) It's that. I don't know why Bills fans still need this explaining every year but Taiwan Jones is really, really good at what he does. He isn't replaceable by any Tom, Dick or Isaiah that you just pluck off the bottom end of the roster. If Stevenson is injured I don’t think we could cut him? Wouldn’t we have had to give him a roster place then move him to IR today to free it up? That’s not to say McBeane love him for so unfathomable reason so wouldn’t have moved him on anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 hours ago, gobills404 said: Stevenson over Hodgins and Can Roten over Mancz make no sense to me. I’m no Sweeney fan, but I also don’t get all the hate he’s been getting. I think people just wanted to believe that OJ Howard would be good and don’t want to admit he sucked. He legitimately played really well in the preseason. Pretty sure they only kept Stevenson because he is injured. I expect him to go to ir today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Has Stevenson shown any big play ability though? I mean I get in theory he has it. But don't you eventually have to put something on film? He is either hurt or running into backsides every time he is on the field. Hia best chance to make an impact in the NFL would be as a double for the Sanchize! He hasn’t played. Didn’t he bust a kickoff or 2 last preseason? He took 9% of his college kickoff returns back for TDs. Again, if you’re debating the end of the roster you should always give the edge to “talent” or “a special skill.” He COULD offer something if it came together and he was healthy. I don’t see what Sweeney COULD offer in the best case scenario that you couldn’t find on the street? To be clear, I’m not saying that Stevenson should have made the team. I can pretty easily see the justification from them for it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I thought hodgins would make the 53, I'm surprised we kept Stevenson. Stevenson is a TD maker as Beane puts it. Dude has to stay healthy though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Stevenson, haven’t seen a single thing from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Sweeney is on the team because Howard did so badly this summer, and keeping Howard just because he got paid would have been like throwing good money after bad. But who knows if Sweeney will make to the end of the season. If there are multiple injuries in another position group, Sweeney will be cut to create a roster spot for a new player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He hasn’t played. Didn’t he bust a kickoff or 2 last preseason? He took 9% of his college kickoff returns back for TDs. Again, if you’re debating the end of the roster you should always give the edge to “talent” or “a special skill.” He COULD offer something if it came together and he was healthy. I don’t see what Sweeney COULD offer in the best case scenario that you couldn’t find on the street? To be clear, I’m not saying that Stevenson should have made the team. I can pretty easily see the justification from them for it though. When he got on the field in the regular season he was worse than McKenzie in the returner role. I am all for keeping the special skill. But at some point you have to show that you have that special skill rather than just professing to possess it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Utah John said: Sweeney is on the team because Howard did so badly this summer, and keeping Howard just because he got paid would have been like throwing good money after bad. But who knows if Sweeney will make to the end of the season. If there are multiple injuries in another position group, Sweeney will be cut to create a roster spot for a new player. Nobody is arguing that they should have kept Howard just because he got paid. But Sweeney has shown by now that he doesn't belong on an NFL roster. He is bad at football. He can catch in fairness to him, but he moves like a sloth with a turd hanging out and he couldn't block a mashed potato. I'd have gone a tight end light for now and see if I can pick one up from cuts. Edited August 31, 2022 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 hours ago, HOUSE said: That guy from Taiwan This might be the best post this board has ever seen, and it's not even about Edmunds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: Yeah it's Sweeney. I know OJ Howard had a disappointing offseason but he is a better TE than Sweeney by default. I don't understand eating the dead cap hit only to keep a lesser player on the team. Hopefully he is only on the team for right now until they need his roster spot for a different position. I agree. I would’ve kept Howard for his blocking ability and red zone target. We need more size in the end zone which is my reasoning. Sweeney has significant limitations physically. That’s why I like Morris much more as he is a closer fit to Knox in his athleticism. I wouldn’t get on the fear train on Tre. As Sal said yesterday, this is more about Tre’s career as a Bill, and airing on the side of caution that he is completely healed. Since the Rams is hard no, the next game we could’ve used him is the chiefs in week 6. That’s a possibility as it’s week 6. If not we have a bye so by week 8 he definitely should be there for the Packers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He hasn’t played. Didn’t he bust a kickoff or 2 last preseason? He took 9% of his college kickoff returns back for TDs. Again, if you’re debating the end of the roster you should always give the edge to “talent” or “a special skill.” He COULD offer something if it came together and he was healthy. I don’t see what Sweeney COULD offer in the best case scenario that you couldn’t find on the street? To be clear, I’m not saying that Stevenson should have made the team. I can pretty easily see the justification from them for it though. Punt return for a td last preseason and a long reception from Fromm to set up a win late. Averaged more on punt returns last year than McKenzie and .7 yards less per kick return. With his speed it seems a bit early to declare him hopeless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Stevenson. He has shown nothing! Yeah hes fast, so are lots of sprinters, but hes not an nfl football player from what I see. How did he make it with so many tough cuts? Waste of a roster spot, even if he is just keeping a spot for someone before he goes on IR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: When he got on the field in the regular season he was worse than McKenzie in the returner role. I am all for keeping the special skill. But at some point you have to show that you have that special skill rather than just professing to possess it. But what is “that point?” He didn’t have many touches and was a rookie. They’ve seen WAY more of him than we have. As @JDHillFan points out he made some plays when given the opportunity. He won’t be on the active roster after today (punter takes that spot). I have no problem with them wanting more time. Again, I’m not saying that I would have kept him. I would have kept Hodgins and cut Stevenson and Kumerow. The Bills would (probably argue), “the ST contributions/potential of Kumerow/Stevenson outweigh the last WR on team being a little better (Hodgins).” That logic is perfectly sound. Edited August 31, 2022 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I'd say Sweeney. He was inactive a fair amount at the end of the season. I'd guess he'll be inactive a fair amount this season. He's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 I still think the Bills had their eyes on that second round TE (McBride?) who was scooped up a few picks before their slot. Then they regrouped by trading back twice for Cook. There were a few TE's in the 4th round range who looked nice but BB had traded their 4th to move up for #24Elam. I think that is how the TE room ended up short again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 12 hours ago, gobills404 said: Stevenson over Hodgins and Can Roten over Mancz make no sense to me. I’m no Sweeney fan, but I also don’t get all the hate he’s been getting. I think people just wanted to believe that OJ Howard would be good and don’t want to admit he sucked. He legitimately played really well in the preseason. Hodgins is slow. He catches 8 balls for 26 yards kind of player. We had that guy once, David Nelson. He's a fringe NFLer who won't separate from corners on Sundays. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris from Rochester Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Stevenson- He showed nothing last year and to my knowledge has been very inconsistent this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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