Punching Bag Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Probably. It was that and probably his disregard of the Covid protocols. It’s one thing to post your beliefs to twitter. It’s another not to follow the rules put in place. Teams were fined for issues and all were not publicized. I wonder how much they were fined for Beasley ignoring rules as he claimed he would do. Remember Bills were ones who talked about if they had to choose on 53+PS man roster between 2 players of equal value one of which who was vaccinated they would take vaccinated player for completive advantage which got NFLPA's thong twisted. That is when Bills just started repeating line about respecting each players (selfish, me first) choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, TBBills said: He got old. "Things They do look awful Cold..." -some rock band 27 minutes ago, julian said: If he wasn’t easily replaced he’d still be a Bill, they showed him the door because they believe they can pull a dude outta the stands and Josh would get him 50 for 500 outta the slot Bad take 1) The Bills don't even believe they can replace Beasley with a legit NFL WR or draftable rookie and achieve that 2) Beasley's average contributions as a Bill were 812 yds/ season and 77 receptions/season, which is significantly more than your 500/50 3) It's not the receiving yards from the slot, it's those crucial 1st downs and YAC. Bills thought Beasley could pull in 50 1st downs this season, he'd be here. Edited August 8, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Cmon man. Dude played with broken ribs , bones. He was a great team player and respected in the locker room. He's not a me first guy for not putting an experimental vaccine in his body. I have no interest in getting into a vaccine debate so I’ll leave that comment alone. That’s not even what I was referring to though. I was referring to him blatantly disregarding all of the Covid protocols (the same protocols he followed the previous season) as well as his own rules about staying off of Twitter during the season (something he never did before last season), and not being a distraction during a season where the team had super bowl hopes. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/12/27/buffalo-bills-cole-beasley-fined-100k-covid-19-violations/ He didn’t have to get vaccinated but he did have to follow the NFL Covid protocols, which he refused to do. That’s putting himself above the team IMO. He missed time 2 seperate times during the season due to that. It also put him and his teammates at risk. He didn’t seem to care if he potentially exposed his teammates to Covid, which could’ve caused key players to miss important games and even put their health at risk. I mean, he had one teammate that missed the entire season due to Covid complications and another couple who spent time in the hospital due to Covid. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/complication-due-to-covid-19-ends-tommy-sweeney-s-2020-season https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32039522/buffalo-bills-dion-dawkins-says-being-hospitalized-covid-19-one-lowest-points https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2021/12/bills-jon-feliciano-spent-time-in-er-due-to-covid-19-received-monoclonal-antibodies.html He also didn’t have to crusade on Twitter spreading misinformation, arguing with fans + media, even taking shots at Bills fans. He could’ve just been like any number of other Bills players who didn’t get vaccinated but just kept it to themselves and followed the NFL protocols and were not a distraction about it in any way. But he was unable to do that. Edited August 8, 2022 by BillsFan4 6 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 The way people get so infatuated with other people that have different views. Can tell what side people are on by just asking what they think of Cole Beasley. Why do we allow things to divide us like this? Were stronger together. God bless the USA. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beck Water said: "Things They do look awful Cold..." -some rock band The Bills don't believe that. Lol yes, I guess I better take that back. I was giving credit to the vast majority of intelligent posters who would assume I was making a point and not being literal. He’s gone because his production is replaceable, the Bills weren’t taking some moral high ground(Covid) when showing him the door. He brought media distraction from his public comments and his age/production were no longer in his favour. That combination sealed his fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) Live free or die! I just felt like saying that. Rock on Colester! You did your part. /sarcasm Edited August 8, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: He also didn’t have to crusade on Twitter spreading misinformation, arguing with fans + media, even taking shots at Bills fans. He could’ve just been like any number of other Bills players who didn’t get vaccinated but just kept it to themselves and followed the NFL protocols and were not a distraction about it in any way. But he was unable to do that. Gabe Davis wasn't vaccinated. Spencer Brown. Star Lotulelei. possibly AJ Klein. One more, not sure who. Anyone able to "stand and deliver" any media hate they received for this? 🦗 🦗 🦗 Why? They exercised their right of choice, followed the NFL protocols, and went on about their business. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: The way people get so infatuated with other people that have different views. Can tell what side people are on by just asking what they think of Cole Beasley. Why do we allow things to divide us like this? Were stronger together. God bless the USA. I disagree strongly. People have posted well-detailed reasons that have nothing to do with what you've suggested, such as declining stats and an inability to stop stirring the pot on Twitter. I happen to disagree with his position on that topic and yet was nothing but complimentary toward him earlier this thread. This matter cannot be boiled down to his views on one issue vs. how others feel about that issue. Even simply re-reading this thread will prove otherwise. Edited August 8, 2022 by The Red King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I love it when athletes stand up for their beliefs. But not those beliefs. Or that one. And definitely not that one. I guess what I am saying is, shut up and dribble. Sports is my escape and I don't want politics intertwined. Not unless I agree with those politics. Then I'm all for it. - TBD 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Mid point last season I knew there were two players who would not be on the Sep 2022 team. Star Lotulelei and Cole Beasley. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Cole was a good player for the team and Josh Allen. His distractions became too much for the "process" IMO. He was no doubt going to be let go after this year just due to cap and age. It's not that big of an issue for me. I do have to add that I am confused as to why Cole wants to perpetuate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, julian said: Lol yes, I guess I better take that back. I was giving credit to the vast majority of intelligent posters who would assume I was making a point and not being literal. 🙄 7 minutes ago, julian said: He’s gone because his production is replaceable, the Bills weren’t taking some moral high ground(Covid) when showing him the door. He brought media distraction from his public comments and his age/production were no longer in his favour. That combination sealed his fate. I agree that the Bills released Beasley because age/production were no longer enough in his favor to overcome any distraction he brought, not because of some moral stance or over his Covid views. My point is that in his first 2 seasons with the Bills and especially 2020, Beasley wasn't JAG in the slot, which is what your post implied. Give the man his propers, in 2020 he was one of the best slots in the league and even in 2021 still better than JAG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Regardless of his views, the fact that he's back to his self-appointed role as Twitter warrior trying to change the minds of the masses by taking them on one tweet at a time exemplifies the problem. As others have said, he's no longer valuable enough to overlook the distraction. That's the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, sherpa said: Mid point last season I knew there were two players who would not be on the Sep 2022 team. Star Lotulelei and Cole Beasley. Prescient! I will admit it, I mistakenly thought his contract would give Lotulelei another season, especially once the Bills moved on from Harrison Phillips. I didn't think they would move on from both of their 1TDTs at once. It did not make me sad to be wrong there. Edited August 8, 2022 by Beck Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I do have to add that I am confused as to why Cole wants to perpetuate this. Attention ***** who needs/craves the spotlight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: 🙄 I agree that the Bills released Beasley because age/production were no longer enough in his favor to overcome any distraction he brought, not because of some moral stance or over his Covid views. My point is that in his first 2 seasons with the Bills and especially 2020, Beasley wasn't JAG in the slot, which is what your post implied. Give the man his propers, in 2020 he was one of the best slots in the league and even in 2021 still better than JAG Totally agree, I never meant to imply Beasley was a JAG, I’m on record saying how important he was to Allen’s development his first 2 years, he was outstanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Meyer K12 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Glad he stuck to his guns and faced the adversity instead of bending to the knee of social acceptability. A very rare trait these days. He is a good player enjoyed watching him play. Happy trails. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 The only things that changed were Beasley’s on field performance and, consequently, his value to the team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Thank goodness Beasley still has his rap career. These actual Beasley song titles pretty sum up his journey: Look At Me...I Am What I Am...Sorry Not Sorry...Paranoid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: Good question. Remember that Joe Schoen, Giants GM, was hired first and brought Daboll in. No question in my mind that it's Schoen's show, personnel-wise. Answer is speculation: 1) Schoen was "in" on the Bills end of season personnel evaluations. If I'm right cutting Beas was performance based, Schoen may agree. 2) Daboll is not the Giants OC. Mike Kafka didn't leave his role on a perennial playoff contender to be Daboll's Dingleberry. Kafka may not be installing the route concepts Beasley runs. Remember he came from a team where the TE was the "go to" guy. 3) The Giants needed to "get right" on the cap. They have two WR, Kenny Golladay and Sterling Shepard, in their top-10 cap hits. It's possible that they made Bease a vet-minimum type offer, but Beasley (his tweet supports this) isn't interested to play for that. 4) The Buck stops with Daboll now. He has to take a hard look at what will build the culture he wants. "I'll only follow the rules I agree with"? 5) Beasley may feel Pigs will Fly and Hell will Freeze before I play for any (nominally) NY team. You said quote "Why is he playing for the Giants then". He isn't. Excuse me. Why is he not playing for the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Oh joy, a beasely thread. We're gonna have these like 30 years from now still, won't we? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 32 minutes ago, UncleMonkeyHead said: Hahahaha!!!! And here comes the media again with the “me first” narrative!! I'm guessing JW got vaccinated and also boostered after. Wonder if he feels safe enough to walk around without a mask yet Its not a Narrative. It is the way things were. I still like Cole apart from this and wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: The only things that changed were Beasley’s on field performance and, consequently, his value to the team. He had consistent production across all 3 years. I guess 82 catches wasnt enough and is easily replaceable? Say its a money/age thing, but def not a production thing. The dude produced every year. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Prescient! Not really. Star doesn't show up. Beasley doesn't shut up. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: He had consistent production across all 3 years. I guess 82 catches wasnt enough and is easily replaceable? Say its a money/age thing, but def not a production thing. The dude produced every year. He was still effective against zone last season, but not so much against man. That happens with smart WRs as they age. They still know what to do, but physically can’t do it all anymore. Plus he was injured the last two seasons even though he mostly played through them. No shame in eventually losing to Father Time. It happens to everyone eventually. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Beasley contributed a lot to the Bills success on offense the past few seasons. But its just business. What's changed is the loss of some performance with age and injuries. Combine that with a $7M cap hit and a new OC along with what looks like a commitment to put more speed on the field. Add in more potential touches for McKenzie plus rookies RB Cook and WR Shakir and there's just no room for a part-time 7M slot receiver on the decline in the room. This. He played injured, he was a team player, he contributed a lot in 2020 and was decent in 2021, no matter how the "conform or else" fans want to push their agenda. Father Time and football have taken their toll. If he was as good as in 2019 he would have stayed a Bill, and be hired by now. The vaxx has made way too many people lose their mind. 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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