muppy Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: The faux outrage while still shouting go Bills is delicious. I’m here for it. It’s ok guys, embrace the sickness. I will say that the Bills really have zero to do with watson or his situation other than all being NFL teams. It reads as if you are willing to throw out the baby with the bathwater. I definitely am not. I hear you though. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: What does this have to do with the Bills? Last time I checked the Bills are part of the NFL. Supporting the bills directly feeds the NFL. This isn’t hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, aceman_16 said: Just 6 games is nuts. I have seen that many games for taking prescribed meds. Anyhow....what is the downfall of the NFL appealing this? Downside (from the NFL’s perspective) is prolonging the agony of this story in the new cycle vs. washing their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, FireChans said: Who made the ruling? a retired judge for Watson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Last time I checked the Bills are part of the NFL. Supporting the bills directly feeds the NFL. This isn’t hard. yolo and I basically said the same thing. Now you are reading to me condescending. Come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 57 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Those massages are going to be awkward as ***** from now on. Especially when this guy walks through the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, DJB said: a retired judge for Watson It was simply a recommendation, not a ruling. A purely optics-driven exercise that, in the end, means absolutely nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: Last time I checked the Bills are part of the NFL. Supporting the bills directly feeds the NFL. This isn’t hard. What faux outrage are you referring to? The judge made the decision as of now. What does she have to do with the Bills? The nfl hasn’t even responded yet on appeal. How do you know it is faux? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, muppy said: I will say that the Bills really have zero to do with watson or his situation other than all being NFL teams. It reads as if you are willing to throw out the baby with the bathwater. I definitely am not. I hear you though. *shrugs* Its extremely complicated. I’ve mulled this psychologically for years with the numerous shady things that have happened within the NFL. I’ve learned to accept the illness, some cope with it, others straight up deny it while knowingly or unknowingly support it, while others truly stand and take action ie Boycotting. I’m vehemently against what Watson and others have done, but I’m addicted to football. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: It was simply a recommendation, not a ruling. A purely optics-driven exercise that, in the end, means absolutely nothing. Yes, now the people who HATED Goodell being the judge, jury and executioner are CLAMORING for Goodell to override his independent arbitrator to be the judge, jury and executioner. It’s better than Mike Florio’s birthday. The NFL is an awesome case study of a judicial system sustained purely via outrage and public opinion. Edited August 1, 2022 by FireChans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, muppy said: yolo and I basically said the same thing. Now you are reading to me condescending. Come on man. Sorry, that was not my intentions. Apology if it made it feel like I was belittling you. I’m just trying to make people understand it’s all a sickness that many people don’t want to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Optics. This whole thing has been a sham from the get-go and it was going to be Goodell's decision all along. The NFL is scummy. I don't think the NFL is scummy. I think it's a business trying to negotiate its challenges as best it can. Watson may not be a good guy. But a grand jury declined to indict, and he certainly hasn't been convicted of anything so far. Isn't the presumption of innocence an American value? Many companies let the legal system - and the experts who run it - judge personal-time behavior. In other words, if there's no conviction, there are no consequences at work. I applaud the NFL for going further but I wonder how much further they should go in cases like this. I'm torn on this one. I'm really not sure what the right response should have been so I'm not going to criticize Robinson's or Goodell's. In fact, I have to give them some credit. While the legal system didn't punish Watson at all, the NFL will. Edited August 1, 2022 by hondo in seattle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 15 min of playing time missed for every assault. Unbelievably low. Nice message sent. You can assault four women and only lose one game check and none of your signing bonus. Unreal. Josh Gordon lost multiple seasons for alcohol. At this point they would be better off having no personal conduct policy. They can't seem to ever get it right. Goodell should at least double it to force the union to defend this scum of a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Sorry, that was not my intentions. Apology if it made it feel like I was belittling you. I’m just trying to make people understand it’s all a sickness that many people don’t want to accept. I just didnt want things to go off the rails u know I tell it like I read it haha no worries mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Sorry, that was not my intentions. Apology if it made it feel like I was belittling you. I’m just trying to make people understand it’s all a sickness that many people don’t want to accept. I mean, just don’t generalize. Many people have real disgust over the situation but it’s about Watson and his punishment. Doesn’t mean they won’t watch the Bills or nfl. Maybe someone said that? But I doubt that’s a widespread opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Sorry, that was not my intentions. Apology if it made it feel like I was belittling you. I’m just trying to make people understand it’s all a sickness that many people don’t want to accept. First it was the Alex Jones guy, now we got Bonnie Nettles over here talking about our collective sickness? Are you wearing black Nikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: The faux outrage while still shouting go Bills is delicious. I’m here for it. It’s ok guys, embrace the sickness. You're not all there, are you? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What faux outrage are you referring to? The judge made the decision as of now. What does she have to do with the Bills? The nfl hasn’t even responded yet on appeal. How do you know it is faux? Because condemnation without physical action is complicity. We don’t want to admit it, but it is. We all have levels of tolerance and acceptance. The Bills are part of the NFL. People hate the “NFL” for this, but it won’t change because financially the NFL doesn’t get hurt by it. What motivation does the NFL have for change if it doesn’t get hit in the wallet? Behaviors don’t change unless people demand it. NFL only knows one thing, and that’s money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: The faux outrage while still shouting go Bills is delicious. I’m here for it. It’s ok guys, embrace the sickness. I am outraged. I can show that outrage by not watching games that Watson plays in. I have heard of Browns fans who are finding other teams to root for. Likewise, I do not punish all of my children because one of them was bad. Would you punish the whole family if only one misbehaved? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 This is what I was referring to on the failed settlement talks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Im out of touch on the legal processes, but could the NFL appeal and keep the case in limbo for another year through the courts so Watson couldnt play? Trying to think if there were any appeals processes that would create a situation where Watson couldnt play while the appeal was active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Lots of dildos will be in force at Highmark 11/20 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What does this have to do with the Bills? Dude has said the same thing like 5-6 different times in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: This is what I was referring to on the failed settlement talks Might be the best thing for the NFL that he didnt settle - let's them try to appeal with the whole book thrown at him instead of a settlement that would leave no one happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, IronMaidenBills said: Because condemnation without physical action is complicity. We don’t want to admit it, but it is. We all have levels of tolerance and acceptance. The Bills are part of the NFL. People hate the “NFL” for this, but it won’t change because financially the NFL doesn’t get hurt by it. What motivation does the NFL have for change if it doesn’t get hit in the wallet? Behaviors don’t change unless people demand it. NFL only knows one thing, and that’s money. Again, this was a recommendation by the independent judge. If anyone hates the nfl for this at this stage of the game they can save the anger for if they don’t appeal. The nfl was fighting for more and may continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I'll be floored if Goodell doesn't up the suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I mean, just don’t generalize. Many people have real disgust over the situation but it’s about Watson and his punishment. Doesn’t mean they won’t watch the Bills or nfl. Maybe someone said that? But I doubt that’s a widespread opinion. I think ironmaiden wants it to be a more widespread opinion though....to punish the NFL where they care. in their pocketbooks. Meh I hate this whole dramatic mess I will be curious as to how it all ends up. blech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Cray51 said: Im out of touch on the legal processes, but could the NFL appeal and keep the case in limbo for another year through the courts so Watson couldnt play? Trying to think if there were any appeals processes that would create a situation where Watson couldnt play while the appeal was active. No. They have 3 days to appeal. Not sure the exact timetable for Goodell to then take a final decision but he can't string it out forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 here comes the (real) judge. all rise... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: 15 min of playing time missed for every assault. Unbelievably low. Nice message sent. You can assault four women and only lose one game check and none of your signing bonus. Unreal. Josh Gordon lost multiple seasons for alcohol. At this point they would be better off having no personal conduct policy. They can't seem to ever get it right. Goodell should at least double it to force the union to defend this scum of a person. 15 minutes for every alleged assault. Clearly prosecutors are having problems with the allegations because so far they've declined to press charges. I'm not trying to defend the indefensible. I have daughters and despise sexual predators. If even one allegation is true, I want to see Watson do jail time. And if I had to guess, I'd guess that at least one of the allegations is true. But there's got to be some issues with the testimony because neither the legal system nor the NFL is coming down hard on Watson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, muppy said: I think ironmaiden wants it to be a more widespread opinion though....to punish the NFL where they care. in their pocketbooks. Meh I hate this whole dramatic mess I will be curious as to how it all ends up. blech Because sadly Muppy, that’s the only things these businesses care about. Watson won’t be the last case, there will be tons more players with issues and the NFL will just slap wrists because financially they have no reason to change their behavior. That’s all I’m saying. People can be outraged etc etc, but it won’t matter if said outraged fans still financially support the NFL through one of their revenue streams, ie the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No. They have 3 days to appeal. Not sure the exact timetable for Goodell to then take a final decision but he can't string it out forever. I assumed so. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: here comes the (real) judge. all rise... Practicing his seriously concerned face in the mirror as we speak. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Murdock Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Goodell will add 3 more games, to make it more than half the season. Seems about right. All but one of the complainants have settled (Likely costing Watson $millions). If their satisfied, who are we to judge? He's coming back at some point no matter what. Watson will live with this stain forever. He already has the contract. Folks will undoubtedly let their feelings be known at the stadiums, and in the streets. He's not going to EVER get an endorsement deal. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Add an extra zero to that and maybe it's a fair suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Practicing his seriously concerned face in the mirror as we speak. Maybe Kraft will invite him over for a steak dinner. Explain him the ways of a horny man. Edited August 1, 2022 by IronMaidenBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Ugh I wanted him out at least until they played us. Not that I think he's all that good, but why take the risk? Let's boo the crap out of him. He's scum. Even if they can't find criminal charges that stick, can we agree that he's a scumbag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 32 minutes ago, FireChans said: Ahhh why isn’t Goodell putting Watson behind bars??!!! Oh, because he can’t. Ahhh why isn’t Goodell banning Watson for life???!!!! Oh, because he can’t. Noooo Goodell sucks you don’t get it!!!!!!!!!!111!1!1!1!1! Goodell can certainly suspend him indefinitely. We don't know what he will do yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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