I am taking this bet-What are Sean McDermott's odds to win Coach of the Year?

[RocCityRoller]

Oof, I get the long shot, but McDermott has barely been mentioned in the past after his draft (the one before Beane) and breaking the playoff drought.

 

I suppose if the Bills go on a big roll early he could.

 

I think Coach of the Year voting/ input is finalized before the Super Bowl. Is that right? It would make McDermott winning it even harder if true.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

If I bet my $3 bill I can make $300? 

[Albany,n.y.]

22 hours ago, HOUSE said:

 

What if Buffalo runs the table 17-0 ??  Then what ?

If that's the case I'd advise that instead of betting him to win COY you make a better bet: Any team to go 17-0 is +1500 at Caesars.  That way if ANY team goes 17-0 you cash.  Yes the odds are half as much, but you have 32 chances instead of just 1.  

 

WILL ANY TEAM HAVE 17-0 RECORD IN 2022 NFL REGULAR SEASON

SEP 8 | 8:00PM

Yes +1500

No -4000

TEAM TO GO 17-0

 

 

29 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

If I bet my $3 bill I can make $300? 

30/1 x $3 =$90

Edited July 12, 2022 by Albany,n.y.

[without a drought]

2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

If I bet my $3 bill I can make $300? 

Just add two zeros to it.

 

 

 

Make sure you put them after the 3.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

If that's the case I'd advise that instead of betting him to win COY you make a better bet: Any team to go 17-0 is +1500 at Caesars.  That way if ANY team goes 17-0 you cash.  Yes the odds are half as much, but you have 32 chances instead of just 1.  

 

WILL ANY TEAM HAVE 17-0 RECORD IN 2022 NFL REGULAR SEASON

SEP 8 | 8:00PM

Yes +1500

No -4000

TEAM TO GO 17-0

 

 

30/1 x $3 =$90

 

13 minutes ago, without a drought said:

Just add two zeros to it.

 

 

 

Make sure you put them after the 3.

thanks

but ya kinda missed something 

 

THREE dollar bill 💵     

 

[without a drought]

4 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

thanks

but ya kinda missed something 

 

THREE dollar bill 💵     

 

Oh yeah, I forgot who's on the $300 bill.

[ehfeuh57]

On 7/11/2022 at 4:17 PM, machine gun kelly said:

I thought so.  It’s announced after the SB, but they get the vote in for the regular season.

 

Before the Super Bowl as with every other award except for SB MVP and the Lombardi Trophy in a way

 

I would assume its part of the NFL Honors award show

 

 

 

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Will the voters forgive him for the 13 seconds? Us fans sure haven't yet. 

[Augie]

1 hour ago, without a drought said:

Oh yeah, I forgot who's on the $300 bill.

 

Are you trying to get me BANNED???   

 

 

[machine gun kelly]

6 hours ago, DrDare said:

 

Before the Super Bowl as with every other award except for SB MVP and the Lombardi Trophy in a way

 

I would assume its part of the NFL Honors award show

 

 

 

 

Bud I looked it up.  Just do a google search.  The announced was 2/10/21.  I honestly don’t remember when and how, but unless a news announcement is wrong and you’re right, it was 2/10/21.

 

Does it really matter?  The point is that the whole argument “needs to make the SB, deep in the playoffs is irrelevant as the votes are tabulated after week 18.  It’s what happens in the regular season that the voters use as info for their selection.  My thought of one area McD can do is commandingly winning against playoff opponents or speculated during the season like GB or CN or KC, and securing the #1 seed.  
 

Those are two areas he can control and could maybe influence voters.  Most of the time the voters like the guy from nowhere like Stephanski over

McD in 2020 where McD was Robbed (IMO) as McD was 13-3, beat some impressive opponent like the Rams and at the time of defeat the Hawks before they imploded.  The problem is McD

did it right.  He and Beane as a tandem slowly and methodically built this team up from the ashes the right way 

purging crap contracts, taking lumps, really changing culture,

developing players, making shrewd decisions in trades and FA acquisitions with few splashes, but solid pick ups.

 

Thats how you build a team for long term success and until this year remaining fiscally disciplined to not pay the piper down the road.  Even now though, they placed their metaphoric chips all in on 21 Red, and went for it on Miller and other decisions.  What I love about it is they are structuring things to coincide with the explosion of salary cap over the next 7 years.  It’s visionary and not short sighted like other teams.

 

So voters get enamored with the Stephanski type guy even though he walked into a highly talented roster.  McD had heavy lifting with Beane.  He’s been COY in my book as I don’t analyze a body of work in 13 seconds.  I look at the big picture.  Too many not pickers.

 

With that said, I doubt even if we beat as an example GB by 10 and others and have the #1 seed do I think he’ll get it.  They’ll give it to a guy like McDaniel on Miami if they win 11 games, but Tua looks better (even though we’ll smoke them by 17 if they make it past the wildcard), because we are THE BILLS!

 

GO BILLS!! 

[Alphadawg7]

On the betting site I use it’s +2600 so I just threw down $25 on it.  
 

If Bills play well against top level opponents with some statement wins and lock up the #1 seed in the much tougher AFC he will win it.   

[ehfeuh57]

3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Bud I looked it up.  Just do a google search.  The announced was 2/10/21.  I honestly don’t remember when and how, but unless a news announcement is wrong and you’re right, it was 2/10/21

 

I live through it every year, but I searched anyway.

 

The Super Bowl was on the 13th and the Honors was on the 10th of 2022

 

nothing was on 2/10/21

[Dr Divit]

Zero.    Despite McDermott's years of being a defensive coach,  he choked in the KC game.   People forget, the 13 sec meltdown came after a timeout.   Even Sean Payton said he choked.   Poor Leslie F,  he has to live with this stink as well.

 

We have the best roster in the league, McDermott is a great players coach.  But his game management is scary, especially in big games

[skibum]

The only way he can win is if

1. (God forbid) the team is beset by major injuries and they still go deep or win it all.

2. It's total domination from wire to wire.

3. No other coach takes a team with low expectations to legit contender status.

 

But as of now, the Bills are too loaded a team for their coach to even qualify for COY in most seasons. 

Edited July 13, 2022 by skibum

[HOUSE]

There are many ways to win

 

#1 Josh goes down for a few but the team still wins

#2 No Other surprise teams OR lukewarm competition

#3 17-0

#4 16-1

#5 15-2

#6 I bribe the judges..

[Patrick Duffy]

On 7/11/2022 at 3:34 PM, HOUSE said:

I am taking it anyway, small $100 bet, big return

It's actually not a bad bet really. I believe I'd take a shot at it myself

[Freddie's Dead]

On 7/11/2022 at 3:34 PM, HOUSE said:

I am taking it anyway, small $100 bet, big return

 

Remember, $5000, or it doesn't count.

On 7/11/2022 at 5:03 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

Imagine if he won last year??

 

I'd take it, if it meant he didn't choke away the KC game.

[Big Turk]

Honestly I don't see him winning it.

 

Probably should have won it in 2020 when the Bills went 13-3.

 

Now if they finish with a great record it will basically be expected because the roster is routinely thought of as the best in the NFL by lots of pundits. And if the struggle or finish 11-6 like last year it will be viewed as a disappointment.

 

I think he would probably have to be head and shoulders above other teams record wise to get it, maybe like 15-2.

[frostbitmic]

Beating the Super Bowl Champion Rams week #1 would make him an early favorite.

[Patrick Duffy]

3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Beating the Super Bowl Champion Rams week #1 would make him an early favorite.

 

Lol, too early....wouldn't even begin to start any discussion about it that early

[JerseyBills]

On 7/11/2022 at 3:32 PM, Mr. WEO said:

If no SB appearance, he can't win.  His team is loaded and he imploded last season in the final game.

COTY is decided during regular season I believe.  So we'd have to go 14-3 or better for McD to be in the conversation because of the hype but I'd still throw 50 -100 down. Great odds and he has never won before 

[FilthyBeast]

13 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Will the voters forgive him for the 13 seconds? Us fans sure haven't yet. 

 

If this team goes on to win a SB this year nobody will care much about that, including some of the bigger McD critics like myself.

[Stank_Nasty]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

If this team goes on to win a SB this year nobody will care much about that, including some of the bigger McD critics like myself.

Let’s be real. You’re gonna be touting the fins and pats by week 6 if they’re even within a couple games of the Bills. 

[FilthyBeast]

15 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Let’s be real. You’re gonna be touting the fins and pats by week 6 if they’re even within a couple games of the Bills. 

 

Unless this team is truly dominant this year and wins 15 or 16 games, division is going to be brutal and I would expect both the Pats and Dolphins to be within striking distance of the division similar to how things played out the last few years.

 

Remember the Pats were sitting in 1st place late in the season too and probably would have won the division if not for the defense falling off and Jones hitting the proverbial rookie wall. Our favorable December schedule helped too.

[teef]

44 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Unless this team is truly dominant this year and wins 15 or 16 games, division is going to be brutal and I would expect both the Pats and Dolphins to be within striking distance of the division similar to how things played out the last few years.

 

Remember the Pats were sitting in 1st place late in the season too and probably would have won the division if not for the defense falling off and Jones hitting the proverbial rookie wall. Our favorable December schedule helped too.

you don't really believe this...do you?  the pats didn't win the division because the bills shut the door on it completely.  if you didn't realize that during the regular season, the playoffs probably should have showed you that.

[Stank_Nasty]

46 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Unless this team is truly dominant this year and wins 15 or 16 games, division is going to be brutal and I would expect both the Pats and Dolphins to be within striking distance of the division similar to how things played out the last few years.

 

Remember the Pats were sitting in 1st place late in the season too and probably would have won the division if not for the defense falling off and Jones hitting the proverbial rookie wall. Our favorable December schedule helped too.

I’m sure those 50mph winds didn’t have anything to do with it. If if if if. Blah blah blah blah. 
 

the bills are a wind storm away from being 12-0 in the division the last 2 seasons and here you are talking about how close it’s been. Just stop it. 

[teef]

1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I’m sure those 50mph winds didn’t have anything to do with it. If if if if. Blah blah blah blah. 
 

the bills are a wind storm away from being 12-0 in the division the last 2 seasons and here you are talking about how close it’s been. Just stop it. 

exactly.  the way he describes it, the pats fell apart, allowing the bills to win the division.  i think anyone without an agenda knows that's insane.

[Stank_Nasty]

17 minutes ago, teef said:

exactly.  the way he describes it, the pats fell apart, allowing the bills to win the division.  i think anyone without an agenda knows that's insane.

The bills fell apart mid season allowing the pats to feel like they had a snowballs chance in the south…. I can play this game too!! 

[FilthyBeast]

4 hours ago, teef said:

you don't really believe this...do you?  the pats didn't win the division because the bills shut the door on it completely.  if you didn't realize that during the regular season, the playoffs probably should have showed you that.

 

What I'm saying is there are no guarantees that we would have won the division last year if not for the Patriots peaking in late Nov/early Dec and falling off.

 

Obviously we hit our stride around that same time but there were a full two games ahead in the standings after the TB OT loss.

 

Either way in hindsight I will say that I'm confident the Bills would have beat NE in the playoffs with a similar result even if that game was held in Foxboro and we didn't win the division.

4 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I’m sure those 50mph winds didn’t have anything to do with it. If if if if. Blah blah blah blah. 
 

the bills are a wind storm away from being 12-0 in the division the last 2 seasons and here you are talking about how close it’s been. Just stop it. 

 

Not disputing this but again, in 2020 despite being the best team record wise under JA17/McD there was a point in the season when Miami was only trailing by one game. Obviously they faltered down the stretch and Bills pulled away.

 

Last year the Pats were a 2 full game up on the Bills at one point when we were 7-6 and they were 9-4, and I can find many receipts on this forum where even die hard homers thought the Pats were going to win the division at that point.

 

I still believe this team is the prohibitive favorite to win a 3rd straight division title this year but the road is likely going to be more perilous again especially if this team doesn't show up every week and is inconsistent like like year.

[Stank_Nasty]

59 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

What I'm saying is there are no guarantees that we would have won the division last year if not for the Patriots peaking in late Nov/early Dec and falling off.

 

Obviously we hit our stride around that same time but there were a full two games ahead in the standings after the TB OT loss.

 

Either way in hindsight I will say that I'm confident the Bills would have beat NE in the playoffs with a similar result even if that game was held in Foxboro and we didn't win the division.

 

Not disputing this but again, in 2020 despite being the best team record wise under JA17/McD there was a point in the season when Miami was only trailing by one game. Obviously they faltered down the stretch and Bills pulled away.

 

Last year the Pats were a 2 full game up on the Bills at one point when we were 7-6 and they were 9-4, and I can find many receipts on this forum where even die hard homers thought the Pats were going to win the division at that point.

 

I still believe this team is the prohibitive favorite to win a 3rd straight division title this year but the road is likely going to be more perilous again especially if this team doesn't show up every week and is inconsistent like like year.

The Bills have finished off the last 2 regular seasons on 6 and 4 game win streaks. Seems to be becoming a trend. I don’t understand why you wanna discount it as if it’s been flukey. They’re a real good team by the end of the season. It’s a thing…. A good thing. 
 

If either team wants to take the division they‘ll need to figure out how to not suck so bad early in the season and then how to peak come December…. So far they havnt. 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Stank_Nasty

[RyanC883]

we win SB he gets it.  Anything else is blah. 

[Stank_Nasty]

3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

The Patriots played in that weather too…. Not disputing the Bills were clearly the better team last season, and yes the wind played a part into the advantage of the Patriots….  But the Bills shot themselves in the foot plenty and forced themselves into playing a game they weren’t well suited for in forcing the run game when Allen clearly demonstrated he can wing it through the wind. 

Cut the BS. Who wins that game if it’s normal weather? You know the answer. It’s 100% obvious that those horrific conditions favored one team waayyyyy more than the other. …. So anyhow. Moving on… 

3 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

we win SB he gets it.  Anything else is blah. 

It gets voted on before the postseason 

[Buffalo716]

On 7/11/2022 at 4:11 PM, HOUSE said:

 

I am taking McDermott because he was passed over twice. Sometimes that can be the reason he might win.

Plus, I said I would place the bet and if I don't, GUESS WHAT WILL HAPPEN FOR SURE ???

Yep could’ve won it multiple times 

 

we win 13-14 games I can see COTY

[RyanC883]

11 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Cut the BS. Who wins that game if it’s normal weather? You know the answer. It’s 100% obvious that those horrific conditions favored one team waayyyyy more than the other. …. So anyhow. Moving on… 

It gets voted on before the postseason 

 

ah, then he has no chance unless we are undefeated.  Our expectations are so high, as others have pointed out, I think it will be a coach who exceeds expectations ( Bears Coach if they win the division, etc.) 

11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yep could’ve won it multiple times 

 

we win 13-14 games I can see COTY

 

This is possible.  We win 13-14, with no "surprising teams."  13-14 would be tremendous with our schedule.  

[FilthyBeast]

21 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said:

The Bills have finished off the last 2 regular seasons on 6 and 4 game win streaks. Seems to be becoming a trend. I don’t understand why you wanna discount it as if it’s been flukey. They’re a real good team by the end of the season. It’s a thing…. A good thing. 
 

If either team wants to take the division they‘ll need to figure out how to not suck so bad early in the season and then how to peak come December…. So far they havnt. 

 

To McDermott's credit, this team has played their best football down the stretch when it mattered most in recent years and I agree with that and definitlely not a fluke.

 

But again, if other teams in the division ever catch up it's a perilous position to rely on turning the switch on so to speak because there are no guarantees in this league.