TC in St. Louis Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Aaron Donald is number one. Harrison Phillips is number 31 Ed Oliver didn't make the top 32. Is Harrison Phillips better than Ed Oliver? Are there at least 32 interior DL in this league than Ed? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: Is Harrison Phillips better than Ed Oliver? Are there at least 32 interior DL in this league than Ed? absolutely not to both of those questions 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snappysnackcakes Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Man these guys are almost as bad as PFF! Oh wait nobody is as bad as PFF Edited June 18, 2022 by DJB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 What is pro football network? 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 They still have DaQuon Jones as a Titan (#32) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: What is pro football network? PFN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: PFN? Pathetic F#*£>%g Nonsense? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Clueless.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 What's wrong with Clueless? 3 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Ed Oliver was the only DT in the ENTIRE NFL that finished top 10 in both pass rush win rate AND run stop win rate. He’s top 10 minimum. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32176833/2021-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings%3Fplatform%3Damp 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Can’t wait to see Oli, JP, Miller, and groot rip up olines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 6 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: What is pro football network? I don’t know but I already hate them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 7 hours ago, WMDman said: absolutely not to both of those questions The Bills DL will always be graded unfairly as long as we run that conservative D…. No Bills lineman has had a lot of stats since Leslie took over…. The LBs and Safeties make the tackles… and the secondary makes the plays…. It is extremely difficult to evaluate Bills defenders. Especially the DL…. Sports writers understand our D less than I do so they just ignore it. I am hoping the signing of Von Miller heralds the coming of a more aggressive defense. We’d be morons to sign Miller than have him play that D where you push the OL into the QB (instead of trying to get around the DL…) Also, Ed was doubled all too often last season yet held his own. He was doubled because he was our best DL…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 11 hours ago, gobills404 said: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Ed Oliver was the only DT in the ENTIRE NFL that finished top 10 in both pass rush win rate AND run stop win rate. He’s top 10 minimum. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32176833/2021-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings%3Fplatform%3Damp highest run stop rating edge 1- Cam Jordan 33% 5-Greg Rousseau 29% 9-Von Miller 28% 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 15 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: What is pro football network? In all seriousness - who are they? LINK OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN I believe is the operative phrase here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Geez people. Keep your shirts on. There are 32 teams in the league. This ranking would list the Bills as having a couple of guys as the best on their own team. What’s the problem? I don’t think anyone sees the Bills strength as being the interior D Line….do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BobChalmers said: In all seriousness - who are they? LINK OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN I believe is the operative phrase here.... https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-interior-defensive-linemen-rankings-for-the-top-32-heading-into-2022-led-again-by-the-goat/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Ranking+the+top+32+NFL+interior+defensive+linemen+📈&utm_campaign=NFL365+-+AdThrive+6%2F18%2F22 Somebody got his head out of his butt, and they re-ranked it. Put Ed at #21, which dropped Harrison down to #32. Swear to God. It's been changed. Edited June 19, 2022 by TC in St. Louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 hours ago, TC in St. Louis said: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-interior-defensive-linemen-rankings-for-the-top-32-heading-into-2022-led-again-by-the-goat/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Ranking+the+top+32+NFL+interior+defensive+linemen+📈&utm_campaign=NFL365+-+AdThrive+6%2F18%2F22 Somebody got his head out of his butt, and they re-ranked it. Put Ed at #21, which dropped Harrison down to #32. Swear to God. It's been changed. This has been edited since the OP. They had DaQuan Jones #32 and listed with the Titans. Now Harrison Phillips is #32, Jones is off the list and Ed Oliver mysteriously jumped onto the list at #12. 'Journalism' and 'analysis' at its finest 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Geez people. Keep your shirts on. There are 32 teams in the league. This ranking would list the Bills as having a couple of guys as the best on their own team. What’s the problem? I don’t think anyone sees the Bills strength as being the interior D Line….do you? I do now yes. Settle and Jones signings remind me a ton of Hyde/Poyer. Not much media attention, even locally, and not the most talented guys in the world, but the missing pieces and great skill sets for what theyre going to be asked to do. Truely believe they round out our IDL as a top 4th of the league unit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: I do now yes. Settle and Jones signings remind me a ton of Hyde/Poyer. Not much media attention, even locally, and not the most talented guys in the world, but the missing pieces and great skill sets for what theyre going to be asked to do. Truely believe they round out our IDL as a top 4th of the league unit I don't know about top 4, but they seem more aligned with how these guys like to run a defense. Both will have a legitimate chance to start or get heavy rotation. I like having Lawson and Phillips back. Phillips best production came in this defense. I don't expect him to duplicate his 9 or 10 sack season, but the guy can get after the QB and finish if the back half of the defense is covering well. Those two also keep the energy up and joke around and keep things light. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: I do now yes. Settle and Jones signings remind me a ton of Hyde/Poyer. Not much media attention, even locally, and not the most talented guys in the world, but the missing pieces and great skill sets for what theyre going to be asked to do. Truely believe they round out our IDL as a top 4th of the league unit Shredman, I love you’re perspective. The two you mentioned above, plus Howard to have a 12 personnel when we want makes us not to mention other draft guys us much more pliable. The defense and offense are not just about Von. The media focuses all of its attention on that point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: I do now yes. Settle and Jones signings remind me a ton of Hyde/Poyer. Not much media attention, even locally, and not the most talented guys in the world, but the missing pieces and great skill sets for what theyre going to be asked to do. Truely believe they round out our IDL as a top 4th of the league unit They're BIG Boys! I loved both signings. Will do wonders for our run D especially. We're going to have a helluva rotation on the DL. Big Ed is just reaching his prime imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said: I don't know about top 4, but they seem more aligned with how these guys like to run a defense. Both will have a legitimate chance to start or get heavy rotation. I like having Lawson and Phillips back. Phillips best production came in this defense. I don't expect him to duplicate his 9 or 10 sack season, but the guy can get after the QB and finish if the back half of the defense is covering well. Those two also keep the energy up and joke around and keep things light. We're on the same page, I meant top 4th (top 8 lol i worded that weird, coulda just said top 10) . I don't think they're exactly the 2020 Bucs IOL, but def a very strong unit Edited June 20, 2022 by BillsShredder83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I'll take the guy that didn't make the top 32 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 On 6/18/2022 at 7:21 PM, gobills404 said: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Ed Oliver was the only DT in the ENTIRE NFL that finished top 10 in both pass rush win rate AND run stop win rate. He’s top 10 minimum. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32176833/2021-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings%3Fplatform%3Damp Agreed on each point. Oliver should see brighter days in year 4 now with Settle, J. Phillips, Jackson, Von, and an emerging GROOT. He’ll never have the best stats as McD runs that rotation to keep everyone fresh. So it’s harder to do, but reading between the lines of what he does when on the field is the best way to evaluate him. I think he’s going to have a breakout year. The problem is too many people and analysts compared Oliver to the best DT in football in Donald. That was unfair to Oliver as it sets up him to look as a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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