Will Smith slaps Chris Rock at the Oscars

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

5 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

Until this thread, I never knew she cheated on him.

 

 

TBH 

I don’t follow any of this garbage.  

 

who in Hollywood hasn’t been caught up in some love twist. 

 

It’s a very low #.  

[The Avenger]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, it happens. Have you ever seen a celebrity roast? 

 

Lisa Lampenelli made jokes to people that made Rock's comment look like a major compliment. She was the best. People woud make the most vulgar comments to her that you could imagine. The worse they were the more she laughed but when it was her turn, the gloves came off. 

Somewhere, Ricky Gervais is really happy he's no longer hosting awards shows - that guy was savage...

[ExiledInIllinois]

10 hours ago, Buffalosouth said:

Still don't rum your mouth about another man's wife.

Huh? He gets tough with the mouth runners but not the guys banging his wife.

 

 

 

 

[snafu]

57 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

TBH 

I don’t follow any of this garbage.  

 

who in Hollywood hasn’t been caught up in some love twist. 

 

It’s a very low #.  

A whole industry of people with way too much time on their hands and way too much self-importance.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

5 minutes ago, snafu said:

A whole industry of people with way too much time on their hands and way too much self-importance.

 

the actors praising other actors. 
 

[dpberr]

I am amused a man can physically assault another man and just sit back down in his seat as if nothing happened.

 

No security, no ejection. No escort out to cool down. 

 

People got physically removed from school board meetings in this country because they raised their voices or didn't wear a mask. 

[LeGOATski]

20 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 Not only have I not seen any of these Oscar movies, it is hard to even figure out how/where to watch them anymore! 

There are these places called "movie theaters." Big screen. Loud speakers. Pretty cool. 

[HeHateMe]

Is Will locked up yet?

[Gugny]

14 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Huh? He gets tough with the mouth runners but not the guys banging his wife.

 

 

 

 

 

I think he'd be WAAAAY outnumbered if he wanted to take on the dudes banging his wife!

[dpberr]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

I think he'd be WAAAAY outnumbered if he wanted to take on the dudes banging his wife!

I read where they both participate in the "open" part of their relationship.  Hers are just more visible because one of those hookups spoke to the press.  

 

My personal opinion is that he's in a committed relationship with another man/woman, and has been for some time - something along the lines of Whitney Houston's longtime female lover that no one outside her family knew about until she passed.  I think the random hookup women would squeal to the press for their 15 minutes of fame.  

 

I don't think it's that unusual - the unusual part to me is how freely they seem to talk about it and draw attention to it.  

[TBBills]

This is the second time Will Smith has slapped someone at an award show.

Edited March 29, 2022 by TBBills

[Rico]

24 minutes ago, dpberr said:

I read where they both participate in the "open" part of their relationship.  Hers are just more visible because one of those hookups spoke to the press.  

 

My personal opinion is that he's in a committed relationship with another man/woman, and has been for some time - something along the lines of Whitney Houston's longtime female lover that no one outside her family knew about until she passed.  I think the random hookup women would squeal to the press for their 15 minutes of fame.  

 

I don't think it's that unusual - the unusual part to me is how freely they seem to talk about it and draw attention to it.  

A guy I worked with in the 90’s went to high school with Whitney and told me she played for the same team way back then… but Fresh Prince with a guy, I can’t see it.

 

 

[BillsFan4]

I think both Chris Rock and Will Smith were in the wrong here.

 

That was a terrible joke by Chris Rock. But Will Smith had no right to hit him.

 

IMO Smith would’ve been better off if he just walked up on stage, asked for the microphone and said something like “Chris, you know my wife has a medical condition that makes her hair fall out, right?” then just handed the mic back and walked away. Then just Chris Rock would have looked like the one in the wrong.

 

I didn’t know that Jada Pinkett Smith had alopecia areata until this incident. I see now that she’s been open about it in the past but I don’t follow celebrity news at all.

That’s not something you should joke about. I’ve seen people saying “it’s not like she has cancer or something” and I agree, alopecia isn’t cancer and thankfully isn’t life threatening. But it’s still a Very difficult disease to deal with, especially for a woman.

 

I have a female family member with alopecia. She’s had it since high school and it’s been pretty difficult for her to deal with. She’s dealt with all sorts of nasty teasing (sadly even now, as an adult), rumors about her and whispers behind her back.

It’s not like she wears wigs and fake eyelashes/eyebrows for fun, but that doesn’t stop the gossip.

 

One of the things that makes alopecia so difficult to deal with is that it’s random and/or cyclical. Your hair will start to grow back in, then just when it’s really starting to get long enough to maybe go without a wig your hair will start falling out in big round patches again. Or sometimes maybe your hair will grow in king enough to go without a wig for a few months, then start falling out again. It can be such an emotional rollercoaster. Seeing as it looks like Jada just recently shaved her head it makes me wonder if she just recently dealt with something like this.

 

None of this excuses Will Smith’s actions though. He wasn’t wrong for defending her but he was wrong for the way he chose to do it.

[TBBills]

1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

I think both Chris Rock and Will Smith were in the wrong here.

 

That was a terrible joke by Chris Rock. But Will Smith had no right to hit him.

 

IMO Smith would’ve been better off if he just walked up on stage, asked for the microphone and said something like “Chris, you know my wife has a medical condition that makes her hair fall out, right?” then just handed the mic back and walked away. Then just Chris Rock would have looked like the one in the wrong.

 

I didn’t know that Jada Pinkett Smith had alopecia areata until this incident. I see now that she’s been open about it in the past but I don’t follow celebrity news at all.

That’s not something you should joke about. I’ve seen people saying “it’s not like she has cancer or something” and I agree, alopecia isn’t cancer and thankfully isn’t life threatening. But it’s still a Very difficult disease to deal with, especially for a woman.

 

I have a female family member with alopecia. She’s had it since high school and it’s been pretty difficult for her to deal with. She’s dealt with all sorts of nasty teasing (sadly even now, as an adult), rumors about her and whispers behind her back.

It’s not like she wears wigs and fake eyelashes/eyebrows for fun, but that doesn’t stop the gossip.

 

One of the things that makes alopecia so difficult to deal with is that it’s random and/or cyclical. Your hair will start to grow back in, then just when it’s really starting to get long enough to maybe go without a wig your hair will start falling out in big round patches again. Or sometimes maybe your hair will grow in king enough to go without a wig for a few months, then start falling out again. It can be such an emotional rollercoaster. Seeing as it looks like Jada just recently shaved her head it makes me wonder if she just recently dealt with something like this.

 

None of this excuses Will Smith’s actions though. He wasn’t wrong for defending her but he was wrong for the way he chose to do it.

It would only be a terrible joke if it wasn't funny. Even Will Smith was laughing at it.

Edited March 29, 2022 by TBBills

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

18 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

There are these places called "movie theaters." Big screen. Loud speakers. Pretty cool. 

Ha— thanks!

 

my little quip was meant to be a dig at how movies are now being released in so many different ways and on so many different platforms. 

2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

I think both Chris Rock and Will Smith were in the wrong here.

 

That was a terrible joke by Chris Rock. But Will Smith had no right to hit him.

 

IMO Smith would’ve been better off if he just walked up on stage, asked for the microphone and said something like “Chris, you know my wife has a medical condition that makes her hair fall out, right?” then just handed the mic back and walked away. Then just Chris Rock would have looked like the one in the wrong.

 

I didn’t know that Jada Pinkett Smith had alopecia areata until this incident. I see now that she’s been open about it in the past but I don’t follow celebrity news at all.

That’s not something you should joke about. I’ve seen people saying “it’s not like she has cancer or something” and I agree, alopecia isn’t cancer and thankfully isn’t life threatening. But it’s still a Very difficult disease to deal with, especially for a woman.

 

I have a female family member with alopecia. She’s had it since high school and it’s been pretty difficult for her to deal with. She’s dealt with all sorts of nasty teasing (sadly even now, as an adult), rumors about her and whispers behind her back.

It’s not like she wears wigs and fake eyelashes/eyebrows for fun, but that doesn’t stop the gossip.

 

One of the things that makes alopecia so difficult to deal with is that it’s random and/or cyclical. Your hair will start to grow back in, then just when it’s really starting to get long enough to maybe go without a wig your hair will start falling out in big round patches again. Or sometimes maybe your hair will grow in king enough to go without a wig for a few months, then start falling out again. It can be such an emotional rollercoaster. Seeing as it looks like Jada just recently shaved her head it makes me wonder if she just recently dealt with something like this.

 

None of this excuses Will Smith’s actions though. He wasn’t wrong for defending her but he was wrong for the way he chose to do it.

would you think Chris rock is in the wrong here if he didn’t know about her alopecia? From what I have read, he didn’t know about it.

[Gugny]

"Chris Rock’s comedy tour sales surged, according to ticket reseller TickPick, after the comedian’s slapping by Will Smith on the Oscars stage drew global attention.

 

Tour ticket prices now cost a minimum of $341 on TickPick, up from a minimum of $46 per ticket on March 18, Variety reported."

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-29/chris-rock-ticket-sales-surge-after-will-smith-s-oscar-slap

 

This, friends, is why this was a scripted event.  Rock, Smith and Wifey will ALL make out from this performance.

[Rico]

20 minutes ago, Gugny said:

"Chris Rock’s comedy tour sales surged, according to ticket reseller TickPick, after the comedian’s slapping by Will Smith on the Oscars stage drew global attention.

 

Tour ticket prices now cost a minimum of $341 on TickPick, up from a minimum of $46 per ticket on March 18, Variety reported."

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-29/chris-rock-ticket-sales-surge-after-will-smith-s-oscar-slap

 

This, friends, is why this was a scripted event.  Rock, Smith and Wifey will ALL make out from this performance.

Yes, Chris Rock will make out big-time.

[BillsFan4]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

would you think Chris rock is in the wrong here if he didn’t know about her alopecia? From what I have read, he didn’t know about it.

That would actually change my opinion of what happened. I don’t know that it’s ever a great idea to make fun of a bald woman (partly for this reason…). But if he didn’t know she has alopecia then he obviously wasn’t purposely making fun of her medical condition. If that’s the case then it was just more of a dumb/thoughtless joke on his part, rather than purposely being an a-hole.

 

I assumed he knew when I read that Jada Smith had been open about the condition. But as I already mentioned I didn’t know she had alopecia until this happened, and I’ve seen her with short hair before, or wraps on her head but I never really thought much about it. So I can believe Chris Rock when he says he didn’t know either.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

40 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

That would actually change my opinion of what happened. I don’t know that it’s ever a great idea to make fun of a bald woman (partly for this reason…). But if he didn’t know she has alopecia then he obviously wasn’t purposely making fun of her medical condition. If that’s the case then it was just more of a dumb/thoughtless joke on his part, rather than purposely being an a-hole.

 

I assumed he knew when I read that Jada Smith had been open about the condition. But as I already mentioned I didn’t know she had alopecia until this happened, and I’ve seen her with short hair before, or wraps on her head but I never really thought much about it. So I can believe Chris Rock when he says he didn’t know either.

FYI, this is what I read:

 

“Rock, who made the 2009 documentary Good Hair about the wonders of African American hairstyles, didn't know Jada suffers from the hair loss condition alopecia, his friend told the outlet. His joke prior to Smith storming the stage was that Jada, who has been shaving her head since 2021, could star in a G.I. Jane sequel.

The source said that Rock "doesn't have a mean bone in his body," and wasn't trying to humiliate Jada. Further, he was "shaken and bewildered" by Smith storming the stage.”

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/will-smith-chris-rock-made-up-after-oscars-fight-claims-diddy-145640005.html

[muppy]

Has Chris Rock made any statements post slap ? No one seems to be  asking how he is in the aftermath of this. I'm not surprised his comedy show tickets have increased in value. Comics will put their true thoughts and feelings on stage in their performance. this undoubtedly will be true of him . How could it not be.

I think Will Smith should be fined by the academy and even suspended from professional  appearances. His legally crafted apologies don't impress me.

 

Will Smith is human and made a huge mistake in judgment. He will be forgiven eventually but he needs a timeout in my opinion.  He doesn't swear in his raps but he surely did at the academy awards. His cred is in the toilet at this point.

 

Chris Rock you handled that situation as well as anyone could have expected under the circumstances. Im reading that comics now will be fearful they tell a controversial joke they may face physical attack. That to me is really unfortunate and sad.

 

[muppy]

15 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

this my friend is the 21st century. soft. no more being offensive, whether a joke, a box of aunt jemima pankcake mix or a statue from history past. that's just to name a few.

 

I am grateful that I was able to live in a time where richard pryor could stand up on stage and bring the house down with what today, would be, well, offensive.

 

 

sad times these are, for sure.

comedy has always served to push barriers of taste and decorum and I never want to see that end. I Think that if mr smith hadn't have reacted as he did not many would have even remembered that joke and in the moment taken it as it was given,  as a quip regarding head shaved women. I think she wears short hair for her own personal expression and style beyond it being a medical condition...she can clearly afford the very best of cosmetic and beauty care/medical advice.

 

..You know what would have been as powerful/controversial but Non violent? will getting up, take his wifes hand, and walk the heck outta there. The timing of his category being very soon would have prevented that I get it. But THAT expression, equally as powerful, maybe even more so actually........ZERO Violence. Jada reacted, her husband grinned, then he got up from his seat on a fools mission. jmo. Nobody is laughing now.

[Rico]

2 hours ago, muppy said:

Has Chris Rock made any statements post slap ? No one seems to be  asking how he is in the aftermath of this. I'm not surprised his comedy show tickets have increased in value. Comics will put their true thoughts and feelings on stage in their performance. this undoubtedly will be true of him . How could it not be.

I think Will Smith should be fined by the academy and even suspended from professional  appearances. His legally crafted apologies don't impress me.

 

Will Smith is human and made a huge mistake in judgment. He will be forgiven eventually but he needs a timeout in my opinion.  He doesn't swear in his raps but he surely did at the academy awards. His cred is in the toilet at this point.

 

Chris Rock you handled that situation as well as anyone could have expected under the circumstances. Im reading that comics now will be fearful they tell a controversial joke they may face physical attack. That to me is really unfortunate and sad.

 

Like you said, Chris Rock will do his talking in his show, probably crush both of them.

[Tenhigh]

I'd like a public shaming of each and every individual who gave him standing ovation for that putrid speech. 

[Rico]

[muppy]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

Like you said, Chris Rock will do his talking in his show, probably crush both of them.

Rico I think Chris Rock is a great comic. I'm frankly curious how he will handle this in his comedy performances. He will segueway off of it...I mean he won't want to freakin' talk about it ad infinitum/ad nauseum all night.....I hope it ends up being one of his greatest shows Ever. That in itself would be the Cherry for me. He takes the high road and u keep it moving is one option.  I'm pulling for he to make it Right, Bring it as only he can  and dangit make us LAUGH. Screw the haters CR. Actually noone seems to be dissing him all that hard **My perception yeah there are some but I say minority.

Edited March 30, 2022 by muppy

[Rico]

1 minute ago, muppy said:

Rico I think Chris Rock is a great comic. I'm rankly curious how he will handle this in his comedy performances. He will segueway off of it...I mean he won't want to freakin' talk about it ad infinitum/ad nauseum all night.....I hope it ends up being one of his greatest shows Ever. That in itself would be the Cherry for me. He takes the high road and u keep it moving is one option.  I'm pulling for he to make it Right, Bring it as only he can  and dangit make us LAUGH. Screw the haters CR. Actually noone seems to be dissing him all that hard **My perception yeah there are some but I say minority.

I don’t think he will goof on them all night, but they are too big of a laughing stock to ignore. I won’t pay to see him, but clips of this will be out there, can’t wait!  

[BillsFan4]

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

FYI, this is what I read:

 

“Rock, who made the 2009 documentary Good Hair about the wonders of African American hairstyles, didn't know Jada suffers from the hair loss condition alopecia, his friend told the outlet. His joke prior to Smith storming the stage was that Jada, who has been shaving her head since 2021, could star in a G.I. Jane sequel.

The source said that Rock "doesn't have a mean bone in his body," and wasn't trying to humiliate Jada. Further, he was "shaken and bewildered" by Smith storming the stage.”

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/will-smith-chris-rock-made-up-after-oscars-fight-claims-diddy-145640005.html

yeah that actually makes sense that he didn’t know looking at the way he responded to the crowd’s reaction to the joke. When he made the joke and some of the crowd kind of went “yikes” or whatever, he just shrugged his shoulders and said “what? That was a nice one!” or something to that effect.

[LeGOATski]

Idk why, but I want to know what Morgan Freeman thinks about all this.

[Buffalosouth]

On 3/28/2022 at 7:24 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Huh? He gets tough with the mouth runners but not the guys banging his wife.

 

 

 

 

And a guy who made a show about himself getting bullied as a kid. I'm not disagreeing with you. The whole situation is pointless. 

[Buffalosouth]

On 3/28/2022 at 5:22 PM, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, it happens. Have you ever seen a celebrity roast? 

 

Lisa Lampenelli made jokes to people that made Rock's comment look like a major compliment. She was the best. People woud make the most vulgar comments to her that you could imagine. The worse they were the more she laughed but when it was her turn, the gloves came off. 

 

 

Nobody goes to a roast expecting an award. It was a joke though and people shouldn't get so bent out of shape. But we also live in a world where people get mad if you call them a man or a women. I'm surprised nobody yelled "worldstar"

[ExiledInIllinois]

9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

yeah that actually makes sense that he didn’t know looking at the way he responded to the crowd’s reaction to the joke. When he made the joke and some of the crowd kind of went “yikes” or whatever, he just shrugged his shoulders and said “what? That was a nice one!” or something to that effect.

Yeah... The 2009 thing is a good point..  He was just roasting the craziness of fashion.

 

I don't understand a person like that.   Losing your hair is more sensitive for women, I get... But then shave your head?  Draw more attention to it.  That works for a man... But almost all men will suck it up when roasted about it.

 

She should have went the Tom Brady, Mick Jagger route... Create doubt early on.  She's got the money to accomplish it.

 

Something tells me the Pinkett-Smith's love to play the victimhood.  ...And Denzel Washington ain't helping!

[ExiledInIllinois]

10 hours ago, muppy said:

Rico I think Chris Rock is a great comic. I'm frankly curious how he will handle this in his comedy performances. He will segueway off of it...I mean he won't want to freakin' talk about it ad infinitum/ad nauseum all night.....I hope it ends up being one of his greatest shows Ever. That in itself would be the Cherry for me. He takes the high road and u keep it moving is one option.  I'm pulling for he to make it Right, Bring it as only he can  and dangit make us LAUGH. Screw the haters CR. Actually noone seems to be dissing him all that hard **My perception yeah there are some but I say minority.

Rock, IMO will have to say something.  He can't lay up short.

 

 

I usually agree with you... But Rock should crush it.  Going quiet feeds the Pinkett-Smith thriving on their victim hood.  They aren't the victims.  Actually, Rock is the victim.  He was the one violently attacked.  His joke wasn't malicious.  I am almost 100% certain he didn't know if this wasn't scripted.

[BillsFan4]

52 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah... The 2009 thing is a good point..  He was just roasting the craziness of fashion.

 

I don't understand a person like that.   Losing your hair is more sensitive for women, I get... But then shave your head?  Draw more attention to it.  That works for a man... But almost all men will suck it up when roasted about it.

 

She should have went the Tom Brady, Mick Jagger route... Create doubt early on.  She's got the money to accomplish it.

 

Something tells me the Pinkett-Smith's love to play the victimhood.  ...And Denzel Washington ain't helping!

I’m sure you’re probably not aware of this but It’s not really a choice to shave your head. Your hair falls out in big round patches, leaving these big smooth shiny spots of scalp and little patches of hair. The hair also usually doesn’t grow in right. It’ll get an inch or two (or 3) long then start falling out again in some spots. So if you don’t shave it, it can look odd having spots of hair that are 1/4” long and others that are 2” and others that are 5” (etc). 
 

My family member with alopecia shaves her head for a few reasons. 1) not a lot of choice when your hair is growing in like that. 2) it’s heart breaking to wake up every morning and have to see a new bald spot on your head. 3) it’s easier to wear wigs with a shaved head.

 

I give Jada a lot of credit for going to the Oscar’s without a wig or any type of head wrap. My family member w/alopecia hasn’t reached that point yet where she feels comfortable in public without a wig (and she’s had it for decades). That’s a courageous step IMO. 

 

[LeviF]

Misdirected anger aside, Will Smith violated one of the oldest principles in our common law heritage. What is an appropriate punishment for him?

[muppy]

1 hour ago, LeviF said:

Misdirected anger aside, Will Smith violated one of the oldest principles in our common law heritage. What is an appropriate punishment for him?

fine and a suspension from the academy for maybe a year...? If they took his Oscar that would be a one time punishment but pretty severe. I don't know if they will or  would do that or the precedent either. 

 

I just read an article that stated his written apology was "a master class" very well crafted. I dont know how much weight it will have *shrugs*

3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Rock, IMO will have to say something.  He can't lay up short.

 

 

I usually agree with you... But Rock should crush it.  Going quiet feeds the Pinkett-Smith thriving on their victim hood.  They aren't the victims.  Actually, Rock is the victim.  He was the one violently attacked.  His joke wasn't malicious.  I am almost 100% certain he didn't how know if this wasn't scripted.

I do want to see how this all plays out. He may well curb stomp will smith in his comedy routine but meh I think he will hit it but Im not so sure how  much. Wordsmiths can craft quite a slap in a few words though......Punch**

 

🙂

Edited March 30, 2022 by muppy

[LeviF]

4 minutes ago, muppy said:

fine and a suspension from the academy for maybe a year...? If they took his Oscar that would be a one time punishment but pretty severe. I don't know if they will or  would do that or the precedent either. 

 

I just read an article that stated his written apology was "a master class" very well crafted. I dont know how much weight it will have *shrugs*

 

I mean since it's rooted in common law going back to when English royalty had actual power I was thinking something more along the lines of rolled down a bumpy hill whilst in a barrel or something like that.

[ExiledInIllinois]

20 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Misdirected anger aside, Will Smith violated one of the oldest principles in our common law heritage. What is an appropriate punishment for him?

The pillory or stocks!

Edited March 30, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[WotAGuy]

Wait…..Stevie Wonder ISN’T blind??

@Gugny 

[Wacka]

Will and Jada made some really weird  twitter videos before the Oscars. Really, really weird after the Oscars.

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Will and Jada made some really weird  twitter videos before the Oscars. Really, really weird after the Oscars.

 

Well, at least this year I was aware that the Oscars had taken place.