Big Blitz Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Edited March 28, 2022 by Big Blitz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Seems like somebody crossed a line! Maybe a couple of somebodies. I’ve never watched that stuff before…..and I’ll still probably wait for these Cliffs Notes. . Edited March 28, 2022 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 That might help get the ratings back up. What was the joke that set him off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: That might help get the ratings back up. What was the joke that set him off? Apparently there is history...and Jada has a medical condition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: That might help get the ratings back up. What was the joke that set him off? He was conveniently located. Ratings, you ask? I don’t begrudge them their money, but I don’t let their lives have any influence upon mine. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: That might help get the ratings back up. What was the joke that set him off? It's in the clip. He asked Jada when GI Jane 2 is coming out. She has a really short haircut and apparently has alopecia which would explain the reaction. 1 minute ago, Augie said: He was conveniently located. Ratings, you ask? I don’t begrudge them their money, but I don’t let their lives have any influence upon mine. Why does Will Smith give a damn about their ratings? Or Chris Rock for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, That's No Moon said: It's in the clip. He asked Jada when GI Jane 2 is coming out. She has a really short haircut and apparently has alopecia which would explain the reaction. Thanks. Tasteless joke. Both looked bad in that situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 And no one saw it. In real time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Apparently there is history...and Jada has a medical condition Solid tweet by the “journalist” shouter Steven A. Should that be an exclamation mark or a question mark? Oh, and STOP SHOUTING AT ME! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 And then will smith wins best actor! he audibled well on his speech, but don’t think public opinion will buy his “I am a man of love, defending my loved ones” Schtick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: And then will smith wins best actor! he audibled well on his speech, but don’t think public opinion will buy his “I am a man of love, defending my loved ones” Schtick. I saw “King Richard” courtside at some tournaments during practice rounds. I suppose there is a number with enough digits to make me sit thru that movie, but I’m not desperate, so it’s a pretty big number. That was a dick move by a guy who played a dick in a movie, I just have to wonder if it was contrived. Like kindergarten, don’t bite, use your words. . Edited March 28, 2022 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Augie said: I saw “King Richard” courtside at some tournaments during practice rounds. I suppose there is a number with enough digits to make me sit thru that movie, but I’m not desperate, so it’s a pretty big number. That was a dick move who played a dick in a movie, I just have to wonder if it was contrived. Like kindergarten, don’t bite, use your words. Yeahhhhhh, I'd like to say that too but when someone is talking about your wife like that sometimes people need a smack. Maybe not on stage on TV, maybe in the dressing room after the show, but using the stage and TV cameras as armor to publicly mock someone with a medical condition is pretty weak sauce. This isn't a celebrity roast where everyone knows the deal and is up for it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: And then will smith wins best actor! he audibled well on his speech, but don’t think public opinion will buy his “I am a man of love, defending my loved ones” Schtick. For another Oscar-winning movie that I’ll never watch. He was good in Fresh Prince though! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Augie said: I saw “King Richard” courtside at some tournaments during practice rounds. I suppose there is a number with enough digits to make me sit thru that movie, but I’m not desperate, so it’s a pretty big number. That was a dick move by a guy who played a dick in a movie, I just have to wonder if it was contrived. Like kindergarten, don’t bite, use your words. . he needed to exercise self-control. The hubris of this guy to think he can walk up there in front of a live audience on live TV and do that— it is unbelievable. By the way, I sort of stopped watching will smith movies years ago when everyone was the same post-apocalyptic sci fi movie. He’s made the same movie like 100 times. That said, King Richard did pique my interest— though I haven’t seen it yet. 1 minute ago, Rico said: For another Oscar-winning movie that I’ll never watch. He was good in Fresh Prince though! Not only have I not seen any of these Oscar movies, it is hard to even figure out how/where to watch them anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Yeahhhhhh, I'd like to say that too but when someone is talking about your wife like that sometimes people need a smack. Maybe not on stage on TV, maybe in the dressing room after the show, but using the stage and TV cameras as armor to publicly mock someone with a medical condition is pretty weak sauce. This isn't a celebrity roast where everyone knows the deal and is up for it. We see this differently. That’s OK. It’s still not clear to me exactly what he said that was so offensive, but it doesn’t matter. If it was bad, that’s crap on Chris Rock. As it is, it’s mostly on Will Smith because of how it played out. I care VERY little about anyone in Hollywood, but I had a situation where a buddy tried to “defend” my wife by committing assault on a drunk idiot at an NFL game. That shapes my opinion. He was a friend, and tried to defend his actions. I thought it was worthy of arrest. My wife took my side, you don’t get physical. Be a grown up. BTW - Same guy lost his job and later had a domestic violence arrest for being overly volatile, presumably with alcohol involved. I can forgive, but I won’t ignore. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: he needed to exercise self-control. The hubris of this guy to think he can walk up there in front of a live audience on live TV and do that— it is unbelievable. By the way, I sort of stopped watching will smith movies years ago when everyone was the same post-apocalyptic sci fi movie. He’s made the same movie like 100 times. That said, King Richard did pique my interest— though I haven’t seen it yet. Not only have I not seen any of these Oscar movies, it is hard to even figure out how/where to watch them anymore! Of the 10 nominated for Best Picture, I did see Dune (because Dune), Licorice Pizza (PT Anderson), Nightmare Alley (Del Toro), and West Side Story(Spielberg). Liked them all but WSS, I would say Licorice Pizza was the best. The other 6 I have no time for. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Stupid but understandable health issues don’t make for great jokes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Stupid but understandable health issues don’t make for great jokes Stupid? I can agree. Understandable? Nope. Be the grown up. My wife would be furious with me if I had done that. She is also a grown up. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Looked fake in the US version. I don't watch those dumb shows, I just saw the clips on twitter. If it's real Rock should sue him for assault. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Augie said: Stupid? I can agree. Understandable? Nope. Be the grown up. My wife would be furious with me if I had done that. She is also a grown up. Understandable just means you, me, and anyone who heard it understands why he hit him. Not talking about right or wrong mind you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I have to believe that Rock didn’t know it’s a medical issue. I don’t think he’d joke about it if he did. I didn’t know, I just thought she had it short for a movie role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I watched it live and they didn't show it. 1st my tv kind of froze, then they showed a screen shot that said Oscars. They showed a little of Smith cursing out Rock but there was no sound. Obviously they had something like a 7 second delay and never showed what we can see on the videos above on the early posts of this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Might alcohol have been involved in an unfortunate altercation? Has THAT ever happened before??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Augie said: Stupid? I can agree. Understandable? Nope. Be the grown up. My wife would be furious with me if I had done that. She is also a grown up. We've all got our triggers. Your wife isn't yours. That's fine. I'm pretty sure I know what yours is and if someone got on stage in front of the world cracking wise about that issue and specifically about a loved one you are actively going through it with we'd see how you react. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 These people are all pieces of crap 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I grew up watching stand up comedians. Don rickles used to do the same kind of routine that Chris Rock did tonight. I don’t remember people ever hitting rickles though 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, That's No Moon said: We've all got our triggers. Your wife isn't yours. That's fine. I'm pretty sure I know what yours is and if someone got on stage in front of the world cracking wise about that issue and specifically about a loved one you are actively going through it with we'd see how you react. Nope. I can’t be positive what you are pointing toward, but I AM curious and would love for you to put it out there for us. Don’t hint and not tell. I can tell you I never would have done that, but since you brought it up, do tell what my trigger is…… I’m good. What are you thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, That's No Moon said: So you gained respect for a person who made a classless remark about a person with a medical condition. Got it. Not saying you need to respect how it was handled, but Chris Rock was an ass tonight. Feel so bad for poor Will defending his wife who admittedly screws other dudes. ***** all of em 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, Augie said: Nope. I can’t be positive what you are pointing toward, but I AM curious and would love for you to put it out there for us. Don’t hint and not tell. I can tell you I never would have done that, but since you brought it up, do tell what my trigger is…… I’m good. What are you thinking? No thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: So you gained respect for a person who made a classless remark about a person with a medical condition. Got it. Not saying you need to respect how it was handled, but Chris Rock was an ass tonight. Agreed. It would’ve been funnier if Rock goofed on Smith getting cuc*’d by his wife with his son’s friend. Edited March 28, 2022 by Rico 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: No thank you. I have topics I am serious about, but I would not get physical unless it is in physical defense of myself or my family. I will not defend ideals or opinions. Differences make like interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: Can’t believe that not one person in that woke Hollywood audience booed Will Smith or asked how Chris Rock was doing. Actors, above all people, should defend the notion of free speech being protected from physical retaliation. I lost all respect for Will Smith tonight and gained so much for Chris Rock. Both looked bad. You don't joke about another person's autoimmune disease. You don't physically assault someone because of that joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Will Smith should have been ejected from the ceremony as soon as that happened. That was assault, plain and simple. The fact that he was allowed to return to his seat after assaulting a presenter -- regardless of the comment that presenter made -- is ridiculous. Then he got to give a weepy acceptance speech about how he wants to be a "vessel for positivity"? WTF?! I have to think that Mr Smith will be full of regret and shame after the fact. His first Oscar win ever, and his unhinged antics are all anyone will remember, not to mention the fact that they completely overshadowed the movie itself, the Williams family, etc. Unhinged, bush league move by Will Smith. Chris Rock handled it like a champ, though. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Many years ago, I had to take part in a public speaking course through work. We were all tasked with creating a presentation on the subject of our choice, with the purpose of making the audience feel a certain way. One of my colleagues did hers on alopecia. No one in the room had ever heard of it. She showed pictures of her young daughter, with a full head of hair. Then went on to tell us how years later (daughter in middle school) her daughter inexplicably started losing her hair. As she was telling us the story (her daughter was in her 20s at this time), she struggled to keep her composure. By the end of her presentation, everyone in the room was crying. I like Chris Rock. And I like Will Smith. Chris Rock made a bad decision to take such a low hanging fruit to get a laugh at the expense of Will Smith's wife. He can be funny in a gazillion ways without doing that. Will Smith reacted. He reacted like any man who loves a person who is disrespected the way his wife was. It doesn't make it right, per se. But it does help explain his actions. Personally ... I would have done the same exact thing ... even if I knew it wasn't the right thing to do. Edited March 28, 2022 by Gugny 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Rico said: Of the 10 nominated for Best Picture, I did see Dune (because Dune), Licorice Pizza (PT Anderson), Nightmare Alley (Del Toro), and West Side Story(Spielberg). Liked them all but WSS, I would say Licorice Pizza was the best. The other 6 I have no time for. Licorice Pizza was a movie lover's movie...would make a great double feature with Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. Lost in all the commotion over Will Smith and Chris Rock is that Venus Williams had a "Janet Jackson" moment during Will Smith's acceptance speech... they kept cutting to the Oscar logo while Smith was rambling on...I guess the glue didn't hold. Edited March 28, 2022 by Buftex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 “Denzel said to me a few minutes ago, at your highest moment, be careful, that’s when the devil comes for you…” Smith quotedWashington there- my question is, does Smith interpret the devil to be his own ego and pride, or does his ego see that as outside forces out to tear him down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Never figured you to be so woke. Jada Smith has alopecia which causes hair loss. Chris Rock’s poor attempt at humor about this was rightfully met with her husband defending his wife. Not cool in your world? Well it is in mine as it is with MOST men. Yeah, you can "defend your wife" without jumping on a stage and hitting a wise-cracking comedian (on live-international TV!), don't ya think? If you want to hit the guy, meet him backstage and "have a little chat". This just shows the hubris in Will Smith. F him and his arrogant family. Edited March 28, 2022 by Bad Things 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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