Pete Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, gobills404 said: I don’t want Landry but this is a crazy bad take lol I disagree. Jarvis has zero YAC ability. Isaiah makes plays and is electric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Bad Things said: Good God no. Great player, but I can't stand the guy. Just like Gronk. They gave two of the worst cheapshots I've ever seen against our players, and now we want them? The North remembers. Apples and oranges, IMO. Landry’s was a block gone wrong. A cheap shot on a defenseless player that got him fined, but at least part of a football play. Gronk’s was an after-the-whistle assault with intent to do bodily harm, and then he has the audacity, in an interview just last January, to pretend that he didn’t remember it. And then when pressed about it, he claimed that he was “happy to get a week off.” I got flamed (and trolled by a resident troll) for holding the opinion that I didn’t want that POS on the team, but I stand by that opinion firmly. I think Landry’s a head case, and pretty obnoxious. But I don’t think he’s a bad person 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 👀 nothing yet ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Pete said: I disagree. Jarvis has zero YAC ability. Isaiah makes plays and is electric https://upsidefantasy.shinyapps.io/stats/ Landry - 5.5 YAC per reception McKenzie - 4.9 YAC per reception Better athlete doesn’t equal better YAC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, gobills404 said: https://upsidefantasy.shinyapps.io/stats/ Landry - 5.5 YAC per reception McKenzie - 4.9 YAC per reception Better athlete doesn’t equal better YAC Don't ruin a good argument with facts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, Putin said: 👀 nothing yet ??? Its that damn paperwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Gronk is not coming now that tommy is back. And fans justifiably hate Landry even more. For the love of God stop overthinking this and let McKenzie be your slot receiver. Then draft Jameson at 25. Diggs Davis Dawson Dirty JW YES!~!~!!! that lineup to me is fearsome. Would be very happy with this scenario. Landry go take a hike somewhere else. 38 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Apples and oranges, IMO. Landry’s was a block gone wrong. A cheap shot on a defenseless player that got him fined, but at least part of a football play. Gronk’s was an after-the-whistle assault with intent to do bodily harm, and then he has the audacity, in an interview just last January, to pretend that he didn’t remember it. And then when pressed about it, he claimed that he was “happy to get a week off.” I got flamed (and trolled by a resident troll) for holding the opinion that I didn’t want that POS on the team, but I stand by that opinion firmly. I think Landry’s a head case, and pretty obnoxious. But I don’t think he’s a bad person I think the first time he takes a stupid cheap penalty the fanbase would turn on him and it would NOT be pretty And I think that @LABILLBACKER's take is the ticket. jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rocky Landing Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, muppy said: YES!~!~!!! that lineup to me is fearsome. Would be very happy with this scenario. Landry go take a hike somewhere else. I think the first time he takes a stupid cheap penalty the fanbase would turn on him and it would NOT be pretty And I think that @LABILLBACKER's take is the ticket. jmo I would add: Don’t sleep on Jake Kumerow. I know he was primarily a special teamer last season, and he didn’t get a lot of offensive touches. But assuming we lose Beasley and Sanders, and with the dwindling options at upgrading the TE position, I think we could see Kumerow with a much bigger role on offense, especially in the RZ. And I think we could see that guy making plays. I’m very optimistic for what he might provide. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You might as well call it now, there is no way in hell he is not picking the chiefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: No *****in' way. ***** this guy and the horse he rode in on. Do you prefer he ride a mare or a stallion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: You might as well call it now, there is no way in hell he is not picking the chiefs Saints are hit on Watson trail, I wouldn’t be so sure. Saints with Watson are legit contender in a weaker NFC with a much better defense than the Chiefs too. If they get Watson, they jump into immediate contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: https://upsidefantasy.shinyapps.io/stats/ Landry - 5.5 YAC per reception McKenzie - 4.9 YAC per reception Better athlete doesn’t equal better YAC Apples & oranges. The two had very different roles. Landry was used as a deep threat far more than McK. And think about the routes McK was running. It stands to reason that a WR who’s catching a go route in stride is going to get more YAC than a guy taking a drop pass behind the LOS. But in all honesty, I think both players have huge athletic upsides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Do you prefer he ride a mare or a stallion? A donkey for his donkey ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Pete said: I disagree. Jarvis has zero YAC ability. Isaiah makes plays and is electric Disagree, he has 274 in 2018 436 in 2019 341 in 2020 and 273 last season on a Browns team that had a bad year in passing game where Baker was complained about a bit. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LandJa00.htm#all_detailed_receiving_and_rushing So he most certainly has YAC ability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I understand why people don't like Landry (I once got into an argument with his mother on FB, when I referred to him as a "dirty" player), but the guy is talented. Assuming he has recovered from his 2021 injuries, he would be a nice add for our offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Special K said: Not a big fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Disagree, he has 274 in 2018 436 in 2019 341 in 2020 and 273 last season on a Browns team that had a bad year in passing game where Baker was complained about a bit. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LandJa00.htm#all_detailed_receiving_and_rushing So he most certainly has YAC ability Besides being a POS Landry is the antithesis of a playmaker. He's like Curtis Duncan on the run and shoot Oilers of the 90's. Hard pass from me - we can do much better in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, buffblue said: Besides being a POS Landry is the antithesis of a playmaker. He's like Curtis Duncan on the run and shoot Oilers of the 90's. Hard pass from me - we can do much better in the draft He may be considered a POS to some still not over that hit, with a hard pass from you isn't anything I was responding to you about. If that's your opinion that fine. I only quoted you in regard to your statement that he doesn't get YAC and showed that he does in fact have YAC ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: He may be considered a POS to some still not over that hit, with a hard pass from you isn't anything I was responding to you about. If that's your opinion that fine. I only quoted you in regard to your statement that he doesn't get YAC and showed that he does in fact have YAC ability. And yet in his career he has averaged over 12 yards per catch only once. In fact, Landry set the NFL record in 2017 for lowest yards per reception for a receiver with 100 catches (8.8). If his YAC is still considered acceptable, he must be running an awful lot of 2 yard routes. He has minimal speed and I have literally never seen this guy make a big play downfield. Is this what we really need instead of investing in a youngster like Jameson Williams in the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, buffblue said: And yet in his career he has averaged over 12 yards per catch only once. In fact, Landry set the NFL record in 2017 for lowest yards per reception for a receiver with 100 catches (8.8). If his YAC is still considered acceptable, he must be running an awful lot of 2 yard routes. He has minimal speed and I have literally never seen this guy make a big play downfield. Is this what we really need instead of investing in a youngster like Jameson Williams in the draft? I'm not saying they can't find better whether it be the draft of F/A. I'm simply saying he isn't a terrible WR like you were making him out to be. No idea what Bills decide to do, but if they did happen to somehow sign him I wouldn't hate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I'm not saying they can't find better whether it be the draft of F/A. I'm simply saying he isn't a terrible WR like you were making him out to be. No idea what Bills decide to do, but if they did happen to somehow sign him I wouldn't hate it I kind of view him as comparable to Beasley, honestly. But Beasley is a little quicker (when not hampered by injury). So I guess if I had to choose between the two I'd rather stick with Beasley given he knows the offense and already has familiarity with Josh Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I'm not saying they can't find better whether it be the draft of F/A. I'm simply saying he isn't a terrible WR like you were making him out to be. No idea what Bills decide to do, but if they did happen to somehow sign him I wouldn't hate it The Bills offense needs more explosiveness. Landry might be an effective security blanket, but Allen already possesses options like that in Diggs, Knox, etc. We really need someone who can blow the top off of defenses instead of a marginal veteran with little gamebreaking ability. Williams or Chris Olave at 25 is our best option imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, MJS said: I kind of view him as comparable to Beasley, honestly. But Beasley is a little quicker (when not hampered by injury). So I guess if I had to choose between the two I'd rather stick with Beasley given he knows the offense and already has familiarity with Josh Allen. I think Landry may be better at blocking, but yeah I agree, if could choose I'd pick the one that's familiar with everything 3 minutes ago, buffblue said: The Bills offense needs more explosiveness. Landry might be an effective security blanket, but Allen already possesses options like that in Diggs, Knox, etc. We really need someone who can blow the top off of defenses instead of a marginal veteran with little gamebreaking ability. Williams or Chris Olave at 25 is our best option imo Agree, no argument from me there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I think Landry may be better at blocking, but yeah I agree, if could choose I'd pick the one that's familiar with everything For sure, but I'm never going to sign a receiver primarily for their blocking ability. I'd go with the better receiver 10 out of 10 times. If you need better blocking, put another TE on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, MJS said: For sure, but I'm never going to sign a receiver primarily for their blocking ability. I'd go with the better receiver 10 out of 10 times. If you need better blocking, put another TE on the field. Well yeah, I wasn't implying I would. I agreed with you that if choosing I go Bease lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 10 hours ago, gobills404 said: https://upsidefantasy.shinyapps.io/stats/ Landry - 5.5 YAC per reception McKenzie - 4.9 YAC per reception Better athlete doesn’t equal better YAC https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/jarvis-landry/ Jarvis Landry is 83rd in yards per reception and 90th in yards per attempt. In 2017 he had 112 receptions and didn’t even get 1000 yards McKenzie is electric with the ball in his hands. He took over the Pats game, and was uncoverable. On Jet Sweeps he’s a gazelle. And he’s taken returns to the house. isaiahs arrow is pointed up. I don’t think Landrys is jarvis is a good blocker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 i think we need to get faster, both on O and D, not sure getting landry does that for us. i think mcK does that tho. he's faster than his 40 time. i think we need one more fast guy on O, and a solid pass rusher, and we are as close to golden as we can be. i really think kromer and the new OC, along w year over year improvements on the OL are gonna mix in a running element that was not as consistent as it needed to be, and instead of needing JA17 to be super man, we are gonna lower the level of difficulty for him and the super man stuff will be the icing on top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Pete said: https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/jarvis-landry/ Jarvis Landry is 83rd in yards per reception and 90th in yards per attempt. In 2017 he had 112 receptions and didn’t even get 1000 yards McKenzie is electric with the ball in his hands. He took over the Pats game, and was uncoverable. On Jet Sweeps he’s a gazelle. And he’s taken returns to the house. isaiahs arrow is pointed up. I don’t think Landrys is jarvis is a good blocker Nice job moving the goal posts after getting called out for making stuff up 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: Nice job moving the goal posts after getting called out for making stuff up 👍 How is “112 catches and not 1000 yards” moving the goalposts? Lol were they all screens? Lol I will take Isaiah all day over Landry, thank you if Bills are looking at Landry, it’s because they lost out on Evan imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Pete said: How is “112 catches and not 1000 yards” moving the goalposts? Lol were they all screens? Lol A lot of them were. If you recall that was the Adam Gase offense with Smoking Jay Cutler and Matt Moore as his Quarterbacks, so you do have to give the stats some context. Landry is a good football player, but I dont disagree that he is probably on the downside of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I heard instead of Landry, we're gonna make a run at OBJ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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