Mike in Horseheads Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) The Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills head into the offseason as the favorites to win next year's Super Bowl. Caesars Sportsbook has the Chiefs as the favorites at 13-2, followed by the Bills at 7-1. DraftKings, FanDuel and WynnBET have the Chiefs and Bills as co-favorites to win Super Bowl LVII, and BetRivers and the SuperBook have Buffalo as the sole favorite. The Chiefs and Bills are the only teams with odds in the single digits. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33285160/kansas-city-chiefs-buffalo-bills-best-odds-win-super-bowl-lvii Edited February 14, 2022 by Mike in Horseheads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 This years Super Bowl was Bills v Chiefs. Next year will be no different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryS Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: This years Super Bowl was Bills v Chiefs. Next year will be no different. i wish people would stop saying this. usually the winner of the Super Bowl gets a Super Bowl trophy 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 We are now officially on to the 2022 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 As we should be. after the Jags game, I thought that Beane had failed us this past offseason. Our lord and savior 17 wasn’t safe behind our OL. Then Bates happened and everything changed. I was wrong about Beanes offseason. Our OL was good enough as was our D. Losing Tre turned out to be too much to overcome and our coaches blew the season for us but this team was 💯 good enough to become champions. Lots of luck goes into winning a SB. We didn’t have enough of it in the end. I think we’ll go the super bowl in 23 and 24 of Beane does just enough. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: The Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills head into the offseason as the favorites to win next year's Super Bowl. Caesars Sportsbook has the Chiefs as the favorites at 13-2, followed by the Bills at 7-1. DraftKings, FanDuel and WynnBET have the Chiefs and Bills as co-favorites to win Super Bowl LVII, and BetRivers and the SuperBook have Buffalo as the sole favorite. The Chiefs and Bills are the only teams with odds in the single digits. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33285160/kansas-city-chiefs-buffalo-bills-best-odds-win-super-bowl-lvii You really cannot say which team should be favourites until draft and free agency completed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 hours ago, NewEra said: As we should be. after the Jags game, I thought that Beane had failed us this past offseason. Our lord and savior 17 wasn’t safe behind our OL. Then Bates happened and everything changed. I was wrong about Beanes offseason. Our OL was good enough as was our D. Losing Tre turned out to be too much to overcome and our coaches blew the season for us but this team was 💯 good enough to become champions. Lots of luck goes into winning a SB. We didn’t have enough of it in the end. I think we’ll go the super bowl in 23 and 24 of Beane does just enough. Disagree with you on the D. They were exposed against good teams. That needs to change next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 9 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: This years Super Bowl was Bills v Chiefs. Next year will be no different. Maybe if the Chiefs had gotten to the Superbowl and won it, there would be more merit to this take. 3 hours ago, NewEra said: As we should be. after the Jags game, I thought that Beane had failed us this past offseason. Our lord and savior 17 wasn’t safe behind our OL. Then Bates happened and everything changed. I was wrong about Beanes offseason. Our OL was good enough as was our D. Losing Tre turned out to be too much to overcome and our coaches blew the season for us but this team was 💯 good enough to become champions. Lots of luck goes into winning a SB. We didn’t have enough of it in the end. I think we’ll go the super bowl in 23 and 24 of Beane does just enough. I think the Bills are close, but what they lack is a defensive line that can generate pressures and sacks. Beane has really tried to address that, but the results have not been there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Doesn’t mean squat. We’re back at ground zero along with everybody else. Gotta climb the mountain again… 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: You really cannot say which team should be favourites until draft and free agency completed Funny ya can bet on NFL futures today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Niagara Dude said: You really cannot say which team should be favourites until draft and free agency completed Exactly…this means nothing but it’s fun to see the respect the Bills have earned over the past few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Someone who understands this, enlighten me. What within the NFL scheduling process dictates that Bills will play IN KC again next season? I understand the reason they are playing, but how is home/away for that game determined? What would Buffalo had to do, if anything, to get that regular season game played in Buffalo, next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Greg S said: Disagree with you on the D. They were exposed against good teams. That needs to change next season. Feel free to disagree. Every d in the league is exposed at times. Please, name one defense this year that wasn’t. It’s an offensive league and sometimes defenses play very well. in most cases, the offenses have their way with defenses. The nfl has made sure of that given the rule changes over the years. The rams d was lit up and exposed by good teams all season long. Yet they were good enough? If we don’t lose our best defensive player and heart and soul on D, we were good enough. Take Ramsey away and the rams don’t make it to the super bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, MJS said: Maybe if the Chiefs had gotten to the Superbowl and won it, there would be more merit to this take. I think the Bills are close, but what they lack is a defensive line that can generate pressures and sacks. Beane has really tried to address that, but the results have not been there yet. We generated pressure all season. We had the same amount of sacks as the bengals D. i 💯agree that Beane hasn’t had great success with his DL investments, but we had a solid pass rush this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 hours ago, harryS said: i wish people would stop saying this. usually the winner of the Super Bowl gets a Super Bowl trophy Agree, I saw a lot of this on social media last night but it makes no sense since neither team won the championship, let alone even if made it to the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 As it should be Short odds on Allen for MVP as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, wjag said: Someone who understands this, enlighten me. What within the NFL scheduling process dictates that Bills will play IN KC again next season? I understand the reason they are playing, but how is home/away for that game determined? What would Buffalo had to do, if anything, to get that regular season game played in Buffalo, next year? I was curious about this too... The Chiefs played in Buffalo in the regular season in 2020. This was the result of the regular 3-year rotation among AFC divisions where you play all four teams in a division in a given year. Since the Bills played in Kansas City in 2017, the rotation was due such that they were going to play in Buffalo. In 2021, because the Bills won the AFC East, their AFC West opponent was Kansas City, because they too finished first in their division in 2020. The location of this game was dictated by the rotation as well. The Bills will play AT the AFC west for the 2021 and 2022 seasons, because they hosted the AFC West (Denver in 2019, the Chargers in 2018) in Buffalo. This is why we get the (honor?) of playing at KC for two consecutive seasons. And with the 2023 season bringing the full AFC West into the rotation again - that calls for the game to be in KC as well. So from 2020 onwards, the schedule has looked like... 2020 Regular Season: @BUF 2020 AFC Championship: @KC 2021 Regular Season: @KC 2021 AFC Divisional: @KC 2022 Regular Season: @KC 2023 Regular Season: @KC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Agree, I saw a lot of this on social media last night but it makes no sense since neither team won the championship, let alone even if made it to the SB. If you win the championship you make it to the Super Bowl, what are you trying to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: If you win the championship you make it to the Super Bowl, what are you trying to say? No kidding and that's the point. The Bills/Chiefs game was not 'the real SB' and both fanbases need to accept that and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said: No kidding and that's the point. The Bills/Chiefs game was not 'the real SB' and both fanbases need to accept that and move on. By whose dictum, yours? If fans want to feel the Chiefs/Bills were better than the Bengals so what. I personally think the Chiefs/Bills were better than the Bengals, especially after watching the Super Bowl and no, I do not have to "move on". I think the Chiefs were psychologically worn out after the last bills game is why they lost to Cinci. A fresh Bills team would have been better than either team I saw last night, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 9 days to late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Fan Duel has Bills all alone at #1 +700 +750 Chiefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 This brings no joy… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I've already placed my wager on the Bills. And no, before you ask, it was NOT for 5000 dollars... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Greg S said: Disagree with you on the D. They were exposed against good teams. That needs to change next season. Respectfully, they were missing their best player, and they STILL were statistically the top D in the league. The D would be seen in a different light if not for a poorly managed 13 seconds. That’s a skewed look, IMO. Every season is a new season. Time will tell what we might trot out there next year. 43 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This brings no joy… Bob Kraft can probably get you a list of Asian Spas that might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Augie said: Bob Kraft can probably get you a list of Asian Spas that might help. Sadly even something that pathetic would be a vastly more significant accomplishment in comparison to the adulation of some meaningless, uninformed and perpetually incorrect projection. Self awareness might suggest investigating why exactly fantasies of Bob are top of mind for you and synonymous with joy by the way… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Wouldn't this thread be better after seeing what FA and the draft look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 our expectations are rightfully high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryS Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 8:21 AM, Niagara Dude said: You really cannot say which team should be favourites until draft and free agency completed sure, but as long as degenerates are willing to bet this early, the sportsbooks will lay out some bad lines for them to bet into 19 hours ago, haroldwaide said: I've already placed my wager on the Bills. why? that number was going to still be available in September. you just loaned the sportsbook money interest-free for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 10:01 AM, BillMafia716ix said: Doesn’t mean squat. We’re back at ground zero along with everybody else. Gotta climb the mountain again… Nope. It's not an accident that the sportsbooks have made the two teams with the best QBs in the NFL as Super Bowl favorites. Allen and Mahomes put the Bills and Chiefs half way up the mountain even compared to good teams without proven top QBs such as the Bucs, Saints, and Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 8 hours ago, harryS said: sure, but as long as degenerates are willing to bet this early, the sportsbooks will lay out some bad lines for them to bet into 7 times the money is a bad line for the favorite? I fail to follow your logic... why? that number was going to still be available in September. you just loaned the sportsbook money interest-free for no reason. They might make a bit if interest from my wager, but I guarantee I make more from their site playing Texas hold em. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryS Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 6 hours ago, haroldwaide said: They might make a bit if interest from my wager, but I guarantee I make more from their site playing Texas hold em. I actually don't doubt it. I'm guessing you play at BetOnline with a Hud? You can print money that way. As for your question about why 7 to 1 is a bad price, you can search for how sportsbooks make a killing off the futures markets. If they're laying 7 to 1, I guarantee the fair price (based on current knowledge of the teams) using their computer algorithms is at least 10 to 1. If you do the math and add up the prices for all 32 teams in the Super Bowl futures market*, you'll find out that the sportsbook is basically charging a vig of 50% whereas on a regular point spread bet, they're only charging a vig of 10%. * Because we know in a perfectly fair market, all the probabilities should add up to 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 9:38 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This brings no joy… Same. I don't give a **** if the media and the so called "experts" say the Bills are the best team and the favorite to win it all next year. I only care about the Bills proving it on the field and winning it all in reality. Talk is cheap. I just want one in my lifetime. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 53 minutes ago, harryS said: I actually don't doubt it. I'm guessing you play at BetOnline with a Hud? You can print money that way. As for your question about why 7 to 1 is a bad price, you can search for how sportsbooks make a killing off the futures markets. If they're laying 7 to 1, I guarantee the fair price (based on current knowledge of the teams) using their computer algorithms is at least 10 to 1. If you do the math and add up the prices for all 32 teams in the Super Bowl futures market*, you'll find out that the sportsbook is basically charging a vig of 50% whereas on a regular point spread bet, they're only charging a vig of 10%. * Because we know in a perfectly fair market, all the probabilities should add up to 1 I actually use FanDuel. I placed a wager on one of their spread the love promos and playing with house money so to speak. Might have to look into BetOnline... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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