How many chances does McDermott have left?

[billsfan714]

4 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Not squib kicking it with 13 seconds left is the ultimate coaching blunder. Then playing soft coverage when KC only needs a field goal is even worse. Inexcusable. Coaching cost us a super bowl

It really did.   No doubt.   It was 13 seconds of doing everything you dont want to do with a lead and kicking off with 13 seconds.  If Payton takes a year off, I would be all over him in 23 if McD doesnt get it done next year.   Coaches be lining up to coach Josh.

Edited January 24, 2022 by billsfan714

[pigpen65]

The most gutless way to lose a game over ever seen. Jauron was run out of town because his defense didn't cover the sidelines at the end of a regular season Monday night game. This chump just lost a playoff game because he didn't cover the entire field with 13 seconds left. Gutless gutless gutless. ***** gross. Strike out swinging for Christ sakes. *****

[major]

Gruden is out there, or harbaugh 😂

[london_bills]

43 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

You mean the obvious decision to not squib and lose the game? Sorry we do that we win! Not that hard hire DaBoll fire McD and LF and ST. 

We aren’t there yet because our coach lost us the game !

Does not matter they have Tanny we have JA 

If the rams don't win it all should they fire mcvay? 

[QLBillsFan]

1 hour ago, damj said:

Stop it! McDermott has had us in the play-offs 4 of the last 5 years. How quickly you forget the 2 decades of shot we endured before he came here. Want to brink back Rex Ryan? Dick Jauron? Stop being stupid.

Well if he had any logic we sqibb and win this game.. not to mention our horrible D 

[Bangarang]

When this team stops consistently winning is when he’ll run out of chances. 

[QLBillsFan]

1 minute ago, london_bills said:

If the rams don't win it all should they fire mcvay? 

If he doesn’t sqib with 13 seconds yes .. what is your point ?

1 hour ago, CoudyBills said:

They wouldn't have to settle for 2nd or 3rd tier coaches this time around.

Guessing about 99% of coaches would like to coach JA.. this loss falls directly on McD 

[london_bills]

1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said:

If he doesn’t sqib with 13 seconds yes .. what is your point ?

It has been a very disappointing night. 

 

Let me understand this:

McDermott should be fired because he wanted the ball kicked out of the end zone with 13 seconds left right? Because it wasn't squib kicked he should be fired? 

[mannc]

37 minutes ago, harryS said:

You have to nip it in the bud now.  By the time most Bills fans have figured out that he's a coach that will get us to the playoffs again and again but choke with his situational game management, we'll have wasted Josh's prime.

 

Look, when we were in the midst of the long playoff drought, I would've killed to have a Marty Schottenheimer coach our team and change our culture and reliably take us to the playoffs.  But now that we have Marty S, it's time to fire him and upgrade.

He’s probably more of a Marvin Lewis…Bills fans are happy with just making the playoffs…

[QLBillsFan]

Just now, london_bills said:

It has been a very disappointing night. 

 

Let me understand this:

McDermott should be fired because he wanted the ball kicked out of the end zone with 13 seconds left right? Because it wasn't squib kicked he should be fired? 

Yes if he does so we win… why is that difficult to comprehend?  8 seconds equal no fg … game over… when our D has been exceptionally vulnerable we have them 3 not 2 plays 

[mannc]

9 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

When this team stops consistently winning is when he’ll run out of chances. 

So a Marvin Lewis-type record (with a Hall of Fame quarterback) is cool with you?

[popcornpam]

1 hour ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

0-6 in 1 possession games speaks a lot about the coaching and I’ve said it all year. McDermott gets one more year, then the Bills need to hire someone with a solid reputation that would be Salivating at the chance to lead Josh Allen and this team. 

We need an offensive minded head coach He thinks to much like a defensive coordinator and his scheme is bad. He refuses to blitz. He plays to not lose instead of win. 

[QLBillsFan]

11 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

When this team stops consistently winning is when he’ll run out of chances. 

Welcome to above average football.. I’m ready for better 

1 minute ago, popcornpam said:

We need an offensive minded head coach He thinks to much like a defensive coordinator and his scheme is bad. He refuses to blitz. He plays to not lose instead of win. 

I’m ready for change JA and fans deserve better 

[london_bills]

3 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Yes if he does so we win… why is that difficult to comprehend?  8 seconds equal no fg … game over… when our D has been exceptionally vulnerable we have them 3 not 2 plays 

You don't know that would have been the outcome although I hear your point for the squib. Squib might not go as far as the 20 of KC. Yes.. but like someone else has said they could fall on the ball with no time taken off. They could also return it for a touchdown, although unlikely.

 

Someone else said this and I agree, he was scared of hill after the touchdown run. 

 

My point would be that it is not fireable.

[purple haze]

2 hours ago, Igotbills said:

McDermott flipped the franchises around but at some point getting to the divisional round/ afc championship game aren’t enough. 
 

Does McDermott get 1 more shot? 2? 
 

if we meet KC again next year and lose again, do part ways? 
 

 

Log off.  Come back when you’re reasonable.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

11 minutes ago, london_bills said:

It has been a very disappointing night. 

 

Let me understand this:

McDermott should be fired because he wanted the ball kicked out of the end zone with 13 seconds left right? Because it wasn't squib kicked he should be fired? 

 

Noone thinks Squid kick take a knee to whatever spot for Mahomes to start. Instead 25 yard line could of been 30 or 35 whatever to start.

Edited January 24, 2022 by Buffalo Bills Fan

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

48 minutes ago, harryS said:

You have to nip it in the bud now.  By the time most Bills fans have figured out that he's a coach that will get us to the playoffs again and again but choke with his situational game management, we'll have wasted Josh's prime.

 

Look, when we were in the midst of the long playoff drought, I would've killed to have a Marty Schottenheimer coach our team and change our culture and reliably take us to the playoffs.  But now that we have Marty S, it's time to fire him and upgrade.

 

Literally the same thing was said about Andy Reid.  Tony dungy. Etc.

 

[london_bills]

Just now, dneveu said:

 

Literally the same thing was said about Andy Reid.  Tony dungy. Etc.

 

Exactly, Reid was a 'failure' of a coach before the ring. 

[QLBillsFan]

Ok let’s say no time off clock (unlikely) 

we then rush 1 or 2.. bring in DB’s and double … Mahomes is trying to throw not scramble.. your protecting multiple poor decisions the first of which is 50:50 at best they fall on ball

 

[london_bills]

1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said:

Ok let’s say no time off clock (unlikely) 

we then rush 1 or 2.. bring in DB’s and double … Mahomes is trying to throw not scramble.. your protecting multiple poor decisions the first of which is 50:50 at best they fall on ball

 

You mean they could of rushed less? 

[QLBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

Literally the same thing was said about Andy Reid.  Tony dungy. Etc.

 

And Gruden won a SB with Dungy’s guys 

1 minute ago, london_bills said:

You mean they could of rushed less? 

Bills rush 1 or 2 max and drop in coverage on 87 and 10… not sacking and PM not running 

[DapperCam]

McDermott and Daboll seem like good coaches that motivate their players and install good systems. Their play calling and gameday decisions are head scratching a lot. I'm just hoping it can improve, because other aspects of McDermott's coaching seems really good...

 

I actually think it has improved some. They got outcoached way worse last year in the AFCCG.

[Bangarang]

12 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Welcome to above average football.. I’m ready for better 

I’m ready for change JA and fans deserve better 

We’re one of the best teams in the league.
 

I’m confused who you think we can hire that’s immediately better than McD. 

[london_bills]

1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said:

And Gruden won a SB with Dungy’s guys 

Bills rush 1 or 2 max and drop in coverage on 87 and 10… not sacking and PM not running 

Yes I hear the rush less point at that time

[Perry Turtle]

1 minute ago, dneveu said:

 

Literally the same thing was said about Andy Reid.  Tony dungy. Etc.

 

And both those coaches were fired, and the teams that fired them won the Super Bowl without them.  In Dungy's case, his replacement won it.

 

Not saying McDermott should be fired, but his game management definitely needs to improve.  It's not unhead off for teams to fire a coach who plateaus short of the Super Bowl.  Other teams have done it, and have been rewarded for doing so.

[Heels20X6]

1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

We’re one of the best teams in the league.
 

I’m confused who you think we can hire that’s immediately better than McD. 

If there's even a remote chance you can roll up a Brinks truck to Flores' house and ask him to be our new DC, if I'm Pegula...I take that chance.

[downunderbill]

Doesn't matter who the coach is if the defense can't tackle.

 

[QLBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

We’re one of the best teams in the league.
 

I’m confused who you think we can hire that’s immediately better than McD. 

Game decisions cost us potential SB.. you either get it right or you don’t. DaBoll HC new DC 

[CountDorkula]

My questions for MCD

 

why did it take so long to get Isah McKenzie involved

 

Where was gabe Davis all season long

 

why did Emmanuel sanders not fit this offense. 

 

why did it take until game 13 to find the right Oline combo

 

why was Singletary not able to produce until week 13 on. 

 

what happened to Zach moss

 

 

[Bangarang]

15 minutes ago, mannc said:

So a Marvin Lewis-type record (with a Hall of Fame quarterback) is cool with you?

Marvin Lewis literally has never won a playoff game. The comparison you’re making is such a bad one. I get it, you’re upset and aren’t thinking rationally.

 

Lots of upset people want to fire McD but nobody has yet to give who they’d want as a replacement that takes this team to the next level. 

Just now, QLBillsFan said:

Game decisions cost us potential SB.. you either get it right or you don’t. DaBoll HC new DC 

This is laughable. Go to sleep. You’re drunk.

[UKBillFan]

As well as 0-6 in close games we only won three games against play off sides this year, and two of those were against the Pats. Otherwise in our (overall) 12-7 season, five of the defeats came against play off sides. We’re flat track bullies who cannot turn the screw when it matters - and that comes down to coaching. McDermott should stay, despite my emotional side not caring if I wake up tomorrow to find out he’s left, but he needs to learn fast.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

9 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said:

And both those coaches were fired, and the teams that fired them won the Super Bowl without them.  In Dungy's case, his replacement won it.

 

Not saying McDermott should be fired, but his game management definitely needs to improve.  It's not unhead off for teams to fire a coach who plateaus short of the Super Bowl.  Other teams have done it, and have been rewarded for doing so.

 

I would say... at least a couple more chances. He's the best coach we've had in like 25 years by a huge margin, and he's basically running into his mentor the last 2 years. 

[downunderbill]

I doubt McDermott is going anywhere and nor should he, so you're probably just going to have to bite it.

[mannc]

10 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Marvin Lewis literally has never won a playoff game. The comparison you’re making is such a bad one. I get it, you’re upset and aren’t thinking rationally.

 

Lots of upset people want to fire McD but nobody has yet to give who they’d want as a replacement that takes this team to the next level. 

 

I didn’t say fire him, but if we lose to KC in the playoffs again next year, it will be time to wonder if he’s the right guy to get us a championship trophy, which has to be the goal. After the way this game ended, it’s entirely fair to ask some tough questions…

[QCity]

Allen's under contract until 2028, which means we're probably going to be in the expanded playoffs for the next 7 years.

 

He's not going anywhere.

 

 

[harryS]

trying to think outside the box, maybe McD can stay but he has to hand over game management duties to someone else.  just hire any of the top 100 ranked Madden players in the world, for example.

 

so, for example, with 13 seconds left in tonight's game, McD has to ask some 13-yr-old pimply faced Japanese kid what to do.  "I would squib kick, coach"

 

maybe this sort of power sharing dynamic can win us the super bowl.

[Perry Turtle]

1 minute ago, dneveu said:

 

I would say... at least a couple more chances. He's the best coach we've had in like 25 years by a huge margin, and he's basically running into his mentor the last 2 years. 

Yeah, I think there's changes that need to be made in his approach and staff.

 

I kind of see him in the same spot as Levy after the Browns wildcard loss.  

 

Up until that game the Bills won a couple of division titles, lost in the AFC championship game, but were still a conservative team.

 

They fell behind big time in that wildcard game, and resorted to using the no-huddle hurry up.  They fell just short, but switched to the no-huddle full-time the next year.

 

McDermott is kind of in the same place now.  He's got a lot of good and even great things going, but he needs to fine tune and maximize those things, and abandon the things that aren't working.

[Chicken Boo]

How many years did Bill Cowher get?  I think McDermott is here for the long haul, regardless of Super Bowl victories or appearances.

[L Ron Burgundy]

I mean, this would be more on Beane then Mcclapinslap.  We were built to beat the Chiefs but the defensive speed is nowhere near their level.  Should have tried some in season improvements.  Not that I advocate moving on from him but we're just a red c hair away from the Chiefs level.

[london_bills]

Just now, L Ron Burgundy said:

I mean, this would be more on Beane then Mcclapinslap.  We were built to beat the Chiefs but the defensive speed is nowhere near their level.  Should have tried some in season improvements.  Not that I advocate moving on from him but we're just a red c hair away from the Chiefs level.

That's why I think we should copy the chiefs and draft a hill like matchup problem