gjv001 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 We all know that an underinflated football is better the throw, catch, and hang on to in cold weather. The Pats have a history with ball inflation, let us not be a victim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, gjv001 said: We all know that an underinflated football is better the throw, catch, and hang on to in cold weather. The Pats have a history with ball inflation, let us not be a victim. Wouldn't the cold temperatures actually have a deflating effect on the ball already? Edited January 14, 2022 by yall 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Goodell just approved the use of wineskins as a football substitute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, yall said: Wouldn't the cold temperatures actually have a deflating effect on the ball already? PSI wise, yes. According to some of the players a colder football makes it harder. Like catching a brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, yall said: Wouldn't the cold temperatures actually have a deflating effect on the ball already? The ideal gas law states that PV = nRT. So as T goes down, P x V must go down as well. However if additional air is pumped into the ball (more n), then the effect of lower T is negated. So if they pump the balls up to a certain pressure while at at game temps, all is well. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Our DBs will be checking them all game as they bat them down. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a K-Gun Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: The ideal gas law states that PV = nRT. So as T goes down, P x V must go down as well. However if additional air is pumped into the ball (more n), then the effect of lower T is negated. So if they pump the balls up to a certain pressure while at at game temps, all is well. Enough of the P x V talk, this is a family-friendly message board 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I can't handle all this pressure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, yall said: Wouldn't the cold temperatures actually have a deflating effect on the ball already? They do and it's a significant one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, gjv001 said: We all know that an underinflated football is better the throw, catch, and hang on to in cold weather. The Pats have a history with ball inflation, let us not be a victim. why are you telling us to check the pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 While teams still provide the balls, the NFL takes the pressures and has the balls under their control the entire game. The balls are also randomly checked for funny business. It's much harder the Cheats to Cheat, but we should be forever vigilant against those Cheatin' Bastards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: The ideal gas law states that PV = nRT. So as T goes down, P x V must go down as well. However if additional air is pumped into the ball (more n), then the effect of lower T is negated. So if they pump the balls up to a certain pressure while at at game temps, all is well. Seems to be a lot of laws about balls. Not sure if that's a good band name, book title or some social issue.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Sad part is, we complained about the Cheating patriots deflating the balls for years & the NFL didn’t do anything about it until the other, non-AFC East, teams started complaining about it. Let’s Go Buffalo!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Don't let The Deflator off the bus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 If it’s true, and footballs feel like bricks Josh should just unload everything he has into a fastball right at JC Jackson on the first play of the game. Set up a bubble screen for Diggs, while Jackson is trying to maneuver himself, have josh unleash a ball into into Jackson’s newly broken hands. If they don’t break, no worries…..he’ll still drop the sure pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FergusontoButler Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: The ideal gas law states that PV = nRT. So as T goes down, P x V must go down as well. However if additional air is pumped into the ball (more n), then the effect of lower T is negated. So if they pump the balls up to a certain pressure while at at game temps, all is well. When we bring the basketballs out of the trunk for practice they are all very soft. 20 minutes later they are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 4:19 PM, FergusontoButler said: When we bring the basketballs out of the trunk for practice they are all very soft. 20 minutes later they are fine. Right...T goes up with constant n, hence P x V goes up as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Right...T goes up with constant n, hence P x V goes up as well. Temperature and pressure vary directly. Charles' law. 10th grade chemistry class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Well New England's* balls were pretty blue last night. In other news the Bills balls are empty. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: In other news the Bills balls are empty. I wouldn't think he would have any interest, or Ms. Holliday would be receptive. At least not after that drubbing. "Not tonight Linda, I have a headache..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I wouldn't think he would have any interest, or Ms. Holliday would be receptive. At least not after that drubbing. "Not tonight Linda, I have a headache..." You misunderstood my post . I said "the Bills" not Bill. LOL. BB got nothing last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You misunderstood my post . I said "the Bills" not Bill. LOL. BB got nothing last night. I misunderstood nothing. I have it on dubious information that Belichick wanders around his house referring to himself as 'the Bill'. A sort of further refinement of referring to oneself in the third person. 😉😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I misunderstood nothing. I have it on dubious information that Belichick wanders around his house referring to himself as 'the Bill'. A sort of further refinement of referring to oneself in the third person. 😉😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: I was looking for a good one, you well outdid my search. 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I just checked Bill’s balls. Seem pretty deflated to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Well New England's* balls were pretty blue last night. In other news the Bills balls are empty. The Bills shot their wad last night, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 20 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Temperature and pressure vary directly. Charles' law. 10th grade chemistry class. Good call. Charles law is an empirical subset of the more generalized ideal gas law, which can also be derived from first principles, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewPort71 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 1:02 PM, Bob Chandler's Hands said: The ideal gas law states that PV = nRT. So as T goes down, P x V must go down as well. However if additional air is pumped into the ball (more n), then the effect of lower T is negated. So if they pump the balls up to a certain pressure while at at game temps, all is well. Yay. I am back in Physics class. The science geek in me loves it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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