CorkScrewHill Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 sadly not Davis Webb Just shocking how far this guy has fallen https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/11/deshaun-watson-lands-at-fourth-string-on-texans-quarterback-depth-chart/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Insane. I thought I read somewhere that the Texans are trying to block media from being there at training camp but the NFL said get lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 It must just be straight-up depressing to be on that team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 What is the NFL’s end game with this? Goodell suspended Zeke 6 games for his gf filing charges of abuse, to which is he never charged. Yet 22 civil suits against Watson and not even moved to the commissioners exempt list? Is the NFL headed for a stand off with the Texans, waiting to see what the other guy’s move is in order to save face? I think it’s awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 He deserves the humiliation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Texans buried the guy on the nfl depth chart so the nfl is staying hands off until they "have" to do something. What I don't understand is at this point why not name him the starter, amd let HIM decide not to play. Then they're not paying him and might even be able to fine him. The whole situation is just bizarre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Burying him says to me that the NFL is going to suspend him sometime during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 49 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Insane. I thought I read somewhere that the Texans are trying to block media from being there at training camp but the NFL said get lost. I was only half listening but I heard something on radio like they tried to end TC early altogether (?) and the nfl said no. Not sure if they were trying to just not have open practice or what. The crazy thing was when they were playing Watson at safety last week. Wouldn’t you want to make sure he doesn’t get injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said: sadly not Davis Webb Just shocking how far this guy has fallen https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/11/deshaun-watson-lands-at-fourth-string-on-texans-quarterback-depth-chart/ Isn't Davis Webb still with the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Poor culley.. Finally get your dream job and then this mess falls in your lap to deal with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerDave Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I was only half listening but I heard something on radio like they tried to end TC early altogether (?) and the nfl said no. Not sure if they were trying to just not have open practice or what. The crazy thing was when they were playing Watson at safety last week. Wouldn’t you want to make sure he doesn’t get injured? If he did get injured, and ended up on season-ending IR, does that help the team's position at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, RangerDave said: If he did get injured, and ended up on season-ending IR, does that help the team's position at all? From a trade perspective? 10 hours ago, prissythecat said: Isn't Davis Webb still with the Bills I think he might have meant Davis Mills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I did half consider for my Bold Predictions saying Watson to start a regular season game for the Texans this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerDave Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: From a trade perspective? I think he might have meant Davis Mills I was thinking more of getting him off the roster for the year. Does that save them cap money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Just now, RangerDave said: I was thinking more of getting him off the roster for the year. Does that save them cap money? I don’t think so, if on IR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, RangerDave said: I was thinking more of getting him off the roster for the year. Does that save them cap money? Maybe if the league suspended him they could get out of some guarantees? But they'd have to release him, and they likely are trying to trade him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Poor culley.. Finally get your dream job and then this mess falls in your lap to deal with. I mean... expectations have to be pretty low right? Team was 4-12 and still probably have the worst D in the league, they didn't have their first and second round picks, and their only star is currently being accused by multiple women of sexual misconduct. They had to burn one of the 5 picks they did have on a QB since the expectation would be that they won't have Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 first round picks ?? Man, I'm I glad we don't need a QB anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I was only half listening but I heard something on radio like they tried to end TC early altogether (?) and the nfl said no. Not sure if they were trying to just not have open practice or what. The crazy thing was when they were playing Watson at safety last week. Wouldn’t you want to make sure he doesn’t get injured? Calm down. No they did not try to end TC early. And Watson did not "play" safety, they needed an extra body to stand in where the safety was supposed to be, there was zero chance of him getting hurt. One day the media was allowed only for the first hour of practice, then someone complained and the Texans were told by the league they had to allow the press access, that is the entire story. The Texans want to be Patriot South, why they hired Nick Caserio and they envision hiding from the media is one way to achieve it. 14 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Texans buried the guy on the nfl depth chart so the nfl is staying hands off until they "have" to do something. What I don't understand is at this point why not name him the starter, amd let HIM decide not to play. Then they're not paying him and might even be able to fine him. The whole situation is just bizarre You cant force someone to play, then he will suddenly will have a hurt ankle. He wlil never take a snap as a Texan again as long as that doofus Cal McNair owns the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Calm down. No they did not try to end TC early. And Watson did not "play" safety, they needed an extra body to stand in where the safety was supposed to be, there was zero chance of him getting hurt. One day the media was allowed only for the first hour of practice, then someone complained and the Texans were told by the league they had to allow the press access, that is the entire story. The Texans want to be Patriot South, why they hired Nick Caserio and they envision hiding from the media is one way to achieve it. You cant force someone to play, then he will suddenly will have a hurt ankle. He wlil never take a snap as a Texan again as long as that doofus Cal McNair owns the team. I’m just going on what’s reported Edited August 12, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Best 4th string is someone at anther position and only 3 QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsShredder83 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Calm down. No they did not try to end TC early. And Watson did not "play" safety, they needed an extra body to stand in where the safety was supposed to be, there was zero chance of him getting hurt. One day the media was allowed only for the first hour of practice, then someone complained and the Texans were told by the league they had to allow the press access, that is the entire story. The Texans want to be Patriot South, why they hired Nick Caserio and they envision hiding from the media is one way to achieve it. You cant force someone to play, then he will suddenly will have a hurt ankle. He wlil never take a snap as a Texan again as long as that doofus Cal McNair owns the team. From my understanding the player has to be able to prove they aren't healthy enough to not play while under contract. There was a whole big thing with the Jets about it 2 years ago I believe. Team doctors cleared him, he refused to play, and he was fined heavily. That was a legitimate injury, if Watsons making up an injury seems it would be pretty easy to disprove, no? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/4021849002 Edited August 12, 2021 by BillsShredder83 Found article kelechi osemele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m just going on what’s reported What is your point? I hear McClain about every day including today. Let me put things into context. Your comment, " The crazy thing was when they were playing Watson at safety last week. Wouldn’t you want to make sure he doesn’t get injured? " Let me re-iterate, they were NOT playing him at safety, they had him stand there where the safety was supposed to be, there was zero change of him getting injured. Watson usually does next to nothing but stand around so they needed a warm body. If you want to make a big deal out of it , that is up to you. And read it again, they were " tried to end TC early altogether". Let me reiterate, they were trying to end access to the media to training camp, that is all. One day they allowed media access only to the first half hour, and that is when McClain got all emotional and complained to the NFL and the NFL said the media had to be allowed access for the entire practice. If you want to draw this wild conclusions, go ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: What is your point? I hear McClain about every day including today. Let me put things into context. Your comment, " The crazy thing was when they were playing Watson at safety last week. Wouldn’t you want to make sure he doesn’t get injured? " Let me re-iterate, they were NOT playing him at safety, they had him stand there where the safety was supposed to be, there was zero change of him getting injured. Watson usually does next to nothing but stand around so they needed a warm body. If you want to make a big deal out of it , that is up to you. And read it again, they were " tried to end TC early altogether". Let me reiterate, they were trying to end access to the media to training camp, that is all. One day they allowed media access only to the first half hour, and that is when McClain got all emotional and complained to the NFL and the NFL said the media had to be allowed access for the entire practice. If you want to draw this wild conclusions, go ahead. Wow, you seem to really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said: From my understanding the player has to be able to prove they aren't healthy enough to not play while under contract. There was a whole big thing with the Jets about it 2 years ago I believe. Team doctors cleared him, he refused to play, and he was fined heavily. That was a legitimate injury, if Watsons making up an injury seems it would be pretty easy to disprove, no? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.northjersey.com/amp/4021849002 Prove? I have a headache and blacked out, i might have had a concussion or the beginning of CTE. You think they are going to force the player to play, not a change in hell. 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Wow, you seem to really care. I hear about it ad nauseam down here on the radio, two guys I would like to never hear about again: Deshaun Watson and Aaron Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 17 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: sadly not Davis Webb Just shocking how far this guy has fallen https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/11/deshaun-watson-lands-at-fourth-string-on-texans-quarterback-depth-chart/ This is more than a little silly. I'm not arguing for the content of his character at all, but it's not like Watson is their 4th string QB because he all of a sudden forgot how to play football. He's still in the upper echelon of QBs in the league in terms of talent, this is a unique situation to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, glazeduck said: This is more than a little silly. I'm not arguing for the content of his character at all, but it's not like Watson is their 4th string QB because he all of a sudden forgot how to play football. He's still in the upper echelon of QBs in the league in terms of talent, this is a unique situation to be sure. Agreed .. the whole thing is theater on the Texans part. He is either first string or he is on some exempt list. Him being 4th string is ridiculous… which was kind of my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 18 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Poor culley.. Finally get your dream job and then this mess falls in your lap to deal with. All based upon the actual mess that was literally falling into Watson's lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I'm from Western NY. amd spent several years in Houston Texans ,Astros ,and Rockets have been my "back up favorites". But this Texans team embarrasses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Yet another newspaper which wants you to pay for articles AND pages are so full of ads and videos the article you are trying to read takes forever to load and sometimes fails (but ads never do). There actually was more information on writer John McCain than on Texans on that page. Quote The Texans told reporters who cover the team that Wednesday would be the last day of training camp and they would switch to regular-season mode Thursday, two days before the first preseason game at Green Bay. The change would mean media limitations would go into effect, but there was one problem — NFL rules say, “All daily practices must be open in their entirety to local media through Aug. 26.” It would be almost as easy for an opposition team to get someone certified as local media as it was for me to bypass the pay gate. Quote Under the Texans’ first two coaches, Dom Capers and Gary Kubiak, reporters were allowed to watch all of practice all the time. They changed to the minimum when Bill O’Brien was hired in 2014. Wow Bill O'Brien was special and being Billicheat disciple was allowed to get away with it for a long time. 3 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: Agreed .. the whole thing is theater on the Texans part. He is either first string or he is on some exempt list. Him being 4th string is ridiculous… which was kind of my point They should have him replace the kid who retrieves the kicking tee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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