Urban just can’t quit Tebow! (Update - Cut by Jags)

[Boxcar]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

So many have done the exact same thing (coming back to a camp in a last ditch effort to play). What's different about this that people haven't seen before? Unless you're talking about his whole football career....

What's different about Tebow? Star college QB -> poor NFL starter who had a magical run -> left football to try to make it in baseball and started at the very bottom. Advanced to AA? Ultimately didn't make it. -> tries to return to the NFL as Taysom Hill on the wrong side of 30.

 

Please tell me where you've seen this before, because I haven't.

[BarleyNY]

21 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

What's different about Tebow? Star college QB -> poor NFL starter who had a magical run -> left football to try to make it in baseball and started at the very bottom. Advanced to AA? Ultimately didn't make it. -> tries to return to the NFL as Taysom Hill on the wrong side of 30.

 

Please tell me where you've seen this before, because I haven't.

I’ve seen a lot of older players try to make a comeback after being out of football.  But they never seem to get anything more than a try out, if that.  And the only one I recall who tried a position switch at the time of the attempted come back is Kelvin Benjamin.  He tried to go from WR to TE and literally didn’t make it through warm ups in the first practice. 
 

i’ve said it 100 times.  It’s not Tebow, it’s the throng of rabid supporters who fawn over him and defend him at every turn.  No matter how poor his play or how ridiculous a comeback attempt, it’s the same thing.  His spot on JAC should’ve gone to someone with an outside shot at the roster. I lost respect for Urban Meyer for even bringing him in and creating such a sideshow.  But, hey, they sold some jerseys. 

Edited August 17, 2021 by BarleyNY

[GoBills808]

4 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I dont see it as desperation at all.   The guy doesnt have to play sports to make money, and he has enough cash not to have to work at all.   He may want to play sports, but he certainly doesnt have to.

Does he really?

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

So many have done the exact same thing (coming back to a camp in a last ditch effort to play). What's different about this that people haven't seen before? Unless you're talking about his whole football career....

 

Have any of the others publicly supported churches that promote gay conversion therapy? If they have I will add them to the list of people I have zero respect for alongside Tim Tebow.

[LeGOATski]

24 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

What's different about Tebow? Star college QB -> poor NFL starter who had a magical run -> left football to try to make it in baseball and started at the very bottom. Advanced to AA? Ultimately didn't make it. -> tries to return to the NFL as Taysom Hill on the wrong side of 30.

 

Please tell me where you've seen this before, because I haven't.

So you're talking about his whole career then...

 

Off the very top of my head, the baseball thing reminds me of Jordan, just different circumstances. But I'm sure there are many examples of players swapping sports. Hogan, too lol, with lacrosse. They just aren't promoted like Jordan or Tebow. You think he made it on baseball skills alone?

[LeGOATski]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Have any of the others publicly supported churches that promote gay conversion therapy? If they have I will add them to the list of people I have zero respect for alongside Tim Tebow.

Not that I know of.

 

Tebow did his rounds here at the big churches in Arizona, too. I listened to his sermon and it was just him talking about/promoting himself. People call that "evangelizing" I guess.

[Mark Vader]

4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Why all the Tebow hate?  All this guy ever did was want to play football and baseball.  It may have been smoke and mirrors, but he actually won a playoff game as a QB 10 years ago.  By all reports, a good guy and a good teammate, lives clean, so why the hate?  Rae Carruth didn't get this much hate.  I don't understand it.

Yeah, I've never understood it either.

 

Weird.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

52 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

Please tell me where you've seen this before, because I haven't.

I think it's a Hallmark movie. 🤔

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, Boxcar said:

What's different about Tebow? Star college QB -> poor NFL starter who had a magical run -> left football to try to make it in baseball and started at the very bottom. Advanced to AA? Ultimately didn't make it. -> tries to return to the NFL as Taysom Hill on the wrong side of 30.

 

Please tell me where you've seen this before, because I haven't.

Taysom and Tebow are both great football players

[JohnNord]

The hatred of Tebow is so toxic.  It’s funny how some on Twitter with references to empathy, tolerance, and equality on their profile have not problem bashing Tebow for his religious views.  
 

Whether you agree with that view or not, he’s regarded as someone with high character that has helped others in need.  Unlike other athletes, no one has ever accused of him or being performative or not genuine. 

The fact that his old college coach gave him an extended tryout should’ve be surprising.  You see nepotism happen all the time in the NFL.  

 

As far as his playing ability, it’s clear he never had the skill to play QB at a high level.  Watching teams like NO try to use Taysome Hill does make you think that a coach like Sean Payton could’ve found a way to use Heisman Tebow from 2009.

Edited August 17, 2021 by JohnNord

[The Dean]

19 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

The hatred of Tebow is so toxic.

 

 

It definately is. As is the blind devotion to him, IMO.

[JohnNord]

2 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

 

It definately is. As is the blind devotion to him, IMO.

There’s way more lot of hate than “blind devotion.”  I don’t think people like Tebow only for his religion.  It’s because he was so likable and fun to watch in college.  
 

On the other hand, I feel a lot of the hate comes from people who just want to hate on him because he’s open with his religion.  

[The Dean]

1 minute ago, JohnNord said:

There’s way more lot of hate than “blind devotion.”  I don’t think people like Tebow only for his religion.  It’s because he was so likable and fun to watch in college.  
 

On the other hand, I feel a lot of the hate comes from people who just want to hate on him because he’s open with his religion.  

 

Not sure about any of that.. But here in Florida Tebow IS a religion. And make no mistake about it, his public Christianity is one major reason for it. 

 

IMO his religion shouldn't be a reason to like or dislike him. But that's just me.

[JohnNord]

3 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

Not sure about any of that.. But here in Florida Tebow IS a religion. And make no mistake about it, his public Christianity is one major reason for it. 

 

IMO his religion shouldn't be a reason to like or dislike him. But that's just me.

I’ll agree with you on the latter point.  I’m gauging the comments on Twitter - many of which come from performative users who are so concerned about treated others better but still go out of their way to slam Tebow’s.  It just comes off as intolerant and ultimately hypocritical. I guess that’s Twitter though. 

 

There are plenty of football-related issues that you could knock Tebow for.   His faith shouldn’t be one of them.  

[GunnerBill]

35 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

There’s way more lot of hate than “blind devotion.”  I don’t think people like Tebow only for his religion.  It’s because he was so likable and fun to watch in college.  
 

On the other hand, I feel a lot of the hate comes from people who just want to hate on him because he’s open with his religion.  

 

It is because he aligns himself with religious groups with some pretty toxic views of their own.

[JohnNord]

15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is because he aligns himself with religious groups with some pretty toxic views of their own.

Tebow is conservative but to my knowledge he has never been outspoken or hateful.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, JohnNord said:

Tebow is conservative but to my knowledge he has never been outspoken or hateful.

 

 

 

He personally, no, but he has spoken on platforms and supported events by certain organisations with some pretty distasteful views. 

[Sherlock Holmes]

1 hour ago, The Dean said:

 

Not sure about any of that.. But here in Florida Tebow IS a religion. And make no mistake about it, his public Christianity is one major reason for it. 

 

IMO his religion shouldn't be a reason to like or dislike him. But that's just me.

I bought a mango tree that isn't very good just because a nursery rebranded it as the Tebow Mango

[JohnNord]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He personally, no, but he has spoken on platforms and supported events by certain organisations with some pretty distasteful views. 

That’s a hell of a stretch to justify the hatred and vitriol I’ve seen on Twitter

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, JohnNord said:

That’s a hell of a stretch to justify the hatred and vitriol I’ve seen on Twitter

 

I don't speak for Twitter. I speak for myself. 

[unbillievable]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

He personally, no, but he has spoken on platforms and supported events by certain organisations with some pretty distasteful views. 

I searched and found nothing.

He did cancel a few speaking appointments to avoid controversy.

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't speak for Twitter. I speak for myself. 

What did Tebow say that was so "distasteful"?

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, unbillievable said:

I searched and found nothing.

He did cancel a few speaking appointments to avoid controversy.

What did Tebow say that was so "distasteful"?

 

Tebow himself, nothing. But anyone who has shared platforms with pastors who practice conversion therapy will get zero respect from me. Ever. 

[unbillievable]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Tebow himself, nothing. But anyone who has shared platforms with pastors who practice conversion therapy will get zero respect from me. Ever. 

Googling Tebow and conversion therapy gives ZERO results.

 

Was this one of those things where someone on Twitter heard "Christian" and immediately assigned every awful thing they imagined onto Tebow?

[Pondslider]

6 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

Googling Tebow and conversion therapy gives ZERO results.

 

Was this one of those things where someone on Twitter heard "Christian" and immediately assigned every awful thing they imagined onto Tebow?

Tim Tebow associates with Focus on the Family which is an organization that advocates against LGBTQ rights including promoting conversion therapy. 

[GunnerBill]

17 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

Googling Tebow and conversion therapy gives ZERO results.

 

Was this one of those things where someone on Twitter heard "Christian" and immediately assigned every awful thing they imagined onto Tebow?

 

I am not on Twitter. Look into some of the organisations he has worked with and delivered speeches for. Tim Tebow has spoken at Passion Conferences numerous times. That is a movement founded by a pastor by the name of Louie Giglio a renowned homophobe who supports conversion therapy. 

 

3 minutes ago, Pondslider said:

Tim Tebow associates with Focus on the Family which is an organization that advocates against LGBTQ rights including promoting conversion therapy. 

 

Yep they are another one. You really do not have too dig far. 

 

He has an unfortunate habit of associating with groups with similar views.

Edited August 17, 2021 by GunnerBill

[ColoradoBills]

Tim Tebow could not transform his college success to the NFL.  That little dot and the end of the sentence was a period.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

I won't lie, I'm pretty disappointed. I've never seen a player get as much undeserved hate as Tebow. I wanted him to make the team, have a semi productive season, and retire w/ dignity. I guess a piece of my childhood died when I heard this news. His Florida years got me into college football permanently. Good luck & God bless you, Tim. 😇

[LeGOATski]

9 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I won't lie, I'm pretty disappointed. I've never seen a player get as much undeserved hate as Tebow. I wanted him to make the team, have a semi productive season, and retire w/ dignity. I guess a piece of my childhood died when I heard this news. His Florida years got me into college football permanently. Good luck & God bless you, Tim. 😇

I believe getting cut first in training camp is how it was meant to end. And Tebow does too.

[SirAndrew]

23 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I won't lie, I'm pretty disappointed. I've never seen a player get as much undeserved hate as Tebow. I wanted him to make the team, have a semi productive season, and retire w/ dignity. I guess a piece of my childhood died when I heard this news. His Florida years got me into college football permanently. Good luck & God bless you, Tim. 😇

I actually have nothing against Tim Tebow the person. However, this was never going to be a success, which is why I didn’t understand the purpose, and I’m good with this Tebow as an NFL player experiment being over. I wanted Tebow to succeed as a QB the first time around, but this TE experiment was never logical. 

[Just Jack]

[Sherlock Holmes]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I won't lie, I'm pretty disappointed. I've never seen a player get as much undeserved hate as Tebow. I wanted him to make the team, have a semi productive season, and retire w/ dignity. I guess a piece of my childhood died when I heard this news. His Florida years got me into college football permanently. Good luck & God bless you, Tim. 😇

 

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

I believe getting cut first in training camp is how it was meant to end. And Tebow does too.

 

1 hour ago, SirAndrew said:

I actually have nothing against Tim Tebow the person. However, this was never going to be a success, which is why I didn’t understand the purpose, and I’m good with this Tebow as an NFL player experiment being over. I wanted Tebow to succeed as a QB the first time around, but this TE experiment was never logical. 

Fact, the Jags cut Tebow so he could finally find his true calling as our Tight End. 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

I actually have nothing against Tim Tebow the person. However, this was never going to be a success, which is why I didn’t understand the purpose, and I’m good with this Tebow as an NFL player experiment being over. I wanted Tebow to succeed as a QB the first time around, but this TE experiment was never logical. 

Really?  You don't?

 

 

 

[LeGOATski]

There are so many religious players in the NFL who do great things for their community. People don't have a problem with Tebow just because he's religious. It's the way he goes about it. Gloating and seeking the spotlight. Gotta give him credit for promoting his brand so well, but that's all it is. And people have gotten hooked on that brand. Hence the awesome jersey sales ^^^.

[unbillievable]

10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am not on Twitter. Look into some of the organisations he has worked with and delivered speeches for. Tim Tebow has spoken at Passion Conferences numerous times. That is a movement founded by a pastor by the name of Louie Giglio a renowned homophobe who supports conversion therapy. 

 

 

Yep they are another one. You really do not have too dig far. 

 

He has an unfortunate habit of associating with groups with similar views.

Louie Giglio was canceled when a speech he gave in the 90's accused activists of "normalizing" the gay lifestyle. As of 2021, he's was dead-on accurate with that prediction. (FYI, Obama invited him to make a speech before the controversy).

 

What I can find is that all Christian beliefs point to homosexuality as a sin. So Tebow is guilty of associating with other Christians.

 

edit. addendum: People don't hate him because he's Christian, they hate him for practicing it out in the open.

 

Edited August 18, 2021 by unbillievable

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

Louie Giglio was canceled when a speech he gave in the 90's accused activists of "normalizing" the gay lifestyle. As of 2021, he's was dead-on accurate with that prediction. (FYI, Obama invited him to make a speech before the controversy).

 

What I can find is that all Christian beliefs point to homosexuality as a sin. So Tebow is guilty of associating with other Christians.

 

People hate the guy for his religion. It's that simple.

 

Why shouldn't my lifestyle be "normalized"? Giglio is a homophobe and a pretty nasty one at that. I get it, Christianity teaches I am a sinner, but when people in the 21st century want to espouse homophobic views I am not going to sit and listen to them and just say "oh well that's just their religion." I'm going to call it out. And Tim Tebow, while to the best of my knowledge has never personally expressed homophobic views publicly, has an unfortunate history of associating with folks who do and who support things like conversion therapy. As a non-heterosexual atheist does that offend me? Yes it does. Do I hate Tim Tebow? No. Do I respect him? Also no. 

[Gugny]

15 hours ago, Boxcar said:

What's different about Tebow? Star college QB -> poor NFL starter who had a magical run -> left football to try to make it in baseball and started at the very bottom. Advanced to AA? Ultimately didn't make it. -> tries to return to the NFL as Taysom Hill on the wrong side of 30.

 

Please tell me where you've seen this before, because I haven't.

 

He never advanced anywhere in baseball.  He was a hired freak show to generate interest.  It never had anything to do with baseball.  Not to Tebow and not to the Mets organization.  He was Michael Jordan-bad.  Just like this "return to the NFL."  He and daddy Urban both knew he wasn't going anywhere.  But it made headlines and generated interest in the team.  Attention w.hore.

[QCity]

16 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

 He and daddy Urban both knew he wasn't going anywhere.  But it made headlines and generated interest in the team.  Attention w.hore.

 

 

Yup. Sold some jerseys. Give it 3 years and he'll be trying out for kicker.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

11 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

I actually have nothing against Tim Tebow the person. However, this was never going to be a success, which is why I didn’t understand the purpose, and I’m good with this Tebow as an NFL player experiment being over. I wanted Tebow to succeed as a QB the first time around, but this TE experiment was never logical. 

 

Tebow was his own worst enemy. If he was more low profile, he might still be latched on some team as a cool dual purpose backup QB/package player like Jason Hill/Seneca Wallace. Teams just didn't wanna deal w/ the "Tebow-mania" headache which I understand. He's a victim of his own legend. That Denver run was truly magical, though and no one can take that away from him. 

[The Dean]

7 hours ago, unbillievable said:

Louie Giglio was canceled when a speech he gave in the 90's accused activists of "normalizing" the gay lifestyle. As of 2021, he's was dead-on accurate with that prediction. (FYI, Obama invited him to make a speech before the controversy).

 

What I can find is that all Christian beliefs point to homosexuality as a sin. So Tebow is guilty of associating with other Christians.

 

edit. addendum: People don't hate him because he's Christian, they hate him for practicing it out in the open.

 

 

 

I'm a bit confused. Was Louie's speech canceled? A person can't be "cancelled" as far as I know, unless he/she is dead

[unbillievable]

14 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

 

I'm a bit confused. Was Louie's speech canceled? A person can't be "cancelled" as far as I know, unless he/she is dead

It's a woke term. Part of "Cancel Culture".

 

It's when activists target a person until everything they do gets canceled; speeches, appearances, tv shows, jobs, etc... It's different than a protest, in that they pressure the employer/venue.

Edited August 18, 2021 by unbillievable