Update: Dave Culley expected to be Texans HC - John McClain

[Reed83HOF]

 

Edit:

 

John McClain from the Houston from the Houston Chronicle, not this guy

 

Edited January 28, 2021 by Reed83HOF

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Next question: who is Dave Culley?

[Punching Bag]

David Culley is an American football coach who is the assistant head coach and wide receivers coach for the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League. He is also designated as passing game coordinator. 

 

LOL WR coach for Ravens.

 

He used Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) as stepping stone up.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

16 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

David Culley is an American football coach who is the assistant head coach and wide receivers coach for the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League. He is also designated as passing game coordinator. 

 

LOL WR coach for Ravens.

 

He used Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) as stepping stone up.

Wow.
 

I feel like the Texans interviewed him just to mess some more with Watson’s mind. 

[frostbitmic]

 Watson must be contemplating retirement.

[YoloinOhio]

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Great, the Ravens with 2 additional 3rd round picks, just what I wanna see

[reddogblitz]

51 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

David Culley is an American football coach who is the assistant head coach and wide receivers coach for the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League. He is also designated as passing game coordinator. 

 

LOL WR coach for Ravens.

 

He used Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) as stepping stone up.

 

Did great with Hot Rod.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

David Culley is an American football coach who is the assistant head coach and wide receivers coach for the Baltimore Ravens of the National Football League. He is also designated as passing game coordinator. 

 

LOL WR coach for Ravens.

 

He used Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) (Quarterbacks coach) as stepping stone up.

 

FWIW:

Culley was one of the several assistant coaches that Brian Daboll inherited when he joined the Bills as OC in 2018 (along with "Teflon Juan" Castillo and his assistant OL coach, Rob Boras at TE, Kelly Skipper at RB)

 

One of the interesting things about hiring Brian Daboll was how little initial say he had over his assistants.  It wasn't until 2019 that he got to choose his own OL coach, QB coach, and finally in 2020 his own WR coach. 

 

Skipper (RB) and Boras (TE) are still here.

 

Anyway, when Daboll said late this season "I delegate a lot more than I used to" I was like "well drrrrr"

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

Somebody who has Jedi Mind tricks use it now on the Texans front office even if it does not exist someone please try.  But if Frazier, does not get the job just change the locks at the stadium so Leslie can't get in.  But if someone lets him in claim  access control violation due to covid and the league can't blame bias because Frazier got fired. 

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

FWIW:

Culley was one of the several assistant coaches that Brian Daboll inherited when he joined the Bills as OC in 2018 (along with "Teflon Juan" Castillo and his assistant OL coach, Rob Boras at TE, Kelly Skipper at RB)

 

One of the interesting things about hiring Brian Daboll was how little initial say he had over his assistants.  It wasn't until 2019 that he got to choose his own OL coach, QB coach, and finally in 2020 his own WR coach. 

 

Skipper (RB) and Boras (TE) are still here.

 

Anyway, when Daboll said late this season "I delegate a lot more than I used to" I was like "well drrrrr"

Boras and Skipper also have to be shown the door.  Call Mark Bavaro, to train Knox someone has to do it because it seems Boras is just stealing money and Kelly Skipper this clown should be audited by the IRS for him not reporting income. 

[JohnNord]

This would be a horrendous hire for Houston.

[somnus00]

How many successful coordinators go on to fail as head coaches? A lot. This is because being a successful head coach is about more than coordinating one phase of the game. The head coach has to be a football smart CEO type, with strong leadership skills.

I know next to nothing about Culley. So I don't know if he's a good coaching candidate. But hell, didn't Andy Reid go from QB coach straight to head coach?

[Steptide]

12 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

This would be a horrendous hire for Houston.

Not sure Frazier would be that much better as a head coach 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

Boras and Skipper also have to be shown the door.  Call Mark Bavaro, to train Knox someone has to do it because it seems Boras is just stealing money and Kelly Skipper this clown should be audited by the IRS for him not reporting income. 

 

I've explained before that I'm prejudiced against Rob Boras because he was the OC on the StL-then LA Rams in 2015-2016.  Under him, Foles/Keenum and Keenum/Goff looked totally incompetent and incapable of playing QB at an NFL level.  Within 2 years, two of them were QB teams in the Superbowl and the third had played in the NFC Championship.  If anything ever showed the impact of coaching on QB, that checked my box.

 

Now maybe Rob Boras is a fantastic TE coach.  But I can't help wondering if it's coincidence that the two worst performing units on the offense, are the ones with assistants left over from Dennison's year.

[Richard Noggin]

3 minutes ago, somnus00 said:

How many successful coordinators go on to fail as head coaches? A lot. This is because being a successful head coach is about more than coordinating one phase of the game. The head coach has to be a football smart CEO type, with strong leadership skills.

I know next to nothing about Culley. So I don't know if he's a good coaching candidate. But hell, didn't Andy Reid go from QB coach straight to head coach?

 

Just because Culley was a fraud of a QB coach in Buffalo, and has since been responsible for a wildly unproductive WR position group (the position he played back when, innit?), his current role as Assistant HC suggests that he probably possesses some of those broader leadership and management qualities so essential to that style (CEO/non-coordinator type) of NFL head coach you're pointing to above.

[Punching Bag]

5 minutes ago, somnus00 said:

How many successful coordinators go on to fail as head coaches? A lot. This is because being a successful head coach is about more than coordinating one phase of the game. The head coach has to be a football smart CEO type, with strong leadership skills.

I know next to nothing about Culley. So I don't know if he's a good coaching candidate. But hell, didn't Andy Reid go from QB coach straight to head coach?

 

Andy Reid

• BYU (1982) - Graduate assistant
• San Francisco State (1983–1985) - Offensive line coach
• Northern Arizona (1986) - Offensive line coach
• UTEP (1987–1988) - Offensive line coach
• Missouri (1989–1991) - Offensive line coach
• Green Bay Packers (1992–1996) - Assistant offensive line & tight ends coach
• Green Bay Packers (1997–1998) - Quarterbacks coach & assistant head coach
• Philadelphia Eagles (1999–2012) - Head coach
• Kansas City Chiefs (2013–present)- Head coach

David Culley

• Austin Peay (1978) - (Running backs coach)
• Vanderbilt (1979–1981) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Middle Tennessee State (1982) - (Quarterbacks coach & running backs coach)
• Chattanooga (1983) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Southwestern La. (1985–1988) - (Quarterbacks coach)
• Texas El-Paso (1989–1990) - (Offensive coordinator & running backs coach & wide receivers coach)
• Texas A&M (1991–1993) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1994–1995) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Pittsburgh Steelers (1996–1998) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Philadelphia Eagles (1999–2010) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Philadelphia Eagles (2011–2012) - (Senior offensive assistant & wide receivers coach)
• Kansas City Chiefs (2013–2016) - (Assistant head coach & wide receivers coach)
• Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) - (Quarterbacks coach)
• Baltimore Ravens (2019–present) - (Passing game coordinator & wide receivers coach & assistant head coach)

 

[Doc Brown]

Shoot.  I want those third round picks.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Andy Reid

• BYU (1982) - Graduate assistant
• San Francisco State (1983–1985) - Offensive line coach
• Northern Arizona (1986) - Offensive line coach
• UTEP (1987–1988) - Offensive line coach
• Missouri (1989–1991) - Offensive line coach
• Green Bay Packers (1992–1996) - Assistant offensive line & tight ends coach
• Green Bay Packers (1997–1998) - Quarterbacks coach & assistant head coach
• Philadelphia Eagles (1999–2012) - Head coach
• Kansas City Chiefs (2013–present)- Head coach

David Culley

• Austin Peay (1978) - (Running backs coach)
• Vanderbilt (1979–1981) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Middle Tennessee State (1982) - (Quarterbacks coach & running backs coach)
• Chattanooga (1983) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Southwestern La. (1985–1988) - (Quarterbacks coach)
• Texas El-Paso (1989–1990) - (Offensive coordinator & running backs coach & wide receivers coach)
• Texas A&M (1991–1993) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1994–1995) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Pittsburgh Steelers (1996–1998) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Philadelphia Eagles (1999–2010) - (Wide receivers coach)
• Philadelphia Eagles (2011–2012) - (Senior offensive assistant & wide receivers coach)
• Kansas City Chiefs (2013–2016) - (Assistant head coach & wide receivers coach)
• Buffalo Bills (2017–2018) - (Quarterbacks coach)
• Baltimore Ravens (2019–present) - (Passing game coordinator & wide receivers coach & assistant head coach)

 

 

I did not realize Culley had spent such a long time coaching with Andy Reid. 

 

So is this "we want someone from Andy Reid's coaching tree without waiting 2 weeks to interview Bieniemy?"

I think Bieniemy can interview this week - have they asked him to come back?

 

35 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

Somebody who has Jedi Mind tricks use it now on the Texans front office even if it does not exist someone please try.  But if Frazier, does not get the job just change the locks at the stadium so Leslie can't get in.  But if someone lets him in claim  access control violation due to covid and the league can't blame bias because Frazier got fired. 

 

C'mon Man.  It's widely believed that McDermott and Frazier are jointly responsible for the defensive philosophy.  McDermott isn't going to hire anyone who does not share his POV on defense, and McDermott isn't getting fired.  Just what do you think this accomplishes?

[Coach Tuesday]

Wouldn’t be shocked if Frazier turned it down already.

[Doc Brown]

13 minutes ago, somnus00 said:

How many successful coordinators go on to fail as head coaches? A lot. This is because being a successful head coach is about more than coordinating one phase of the game. The head coach has to be a football smart CEO type, with strong leadership skills.

I know next to nothing about Culley. So I don't know if he's a good coaching candidate. But hell, didn't Andy Reid go from QB coach straight to head coach?

Yes.  He's the exception to the rule though.  I can't think of another current successful head coach that wasn't a coordinator at some point.

 

 

[BillsFan4]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

FWIW:

Culley was one of the several assistant coaches that Brian Daboll inherited when he joined the Bills as OC in 2018 (along with "Teflon Juan" Castillo and his assistant OL coach, Rob Boras at TE, Kelly Skipper at RB)

 

One of the interesting things about hiring Brian Daboll was how little initial say he had over his assistants.  It wasn't until 2019 that he got to choose his own OL coach, QB coach, and finally in 2020 his own WR coach. 

 

Skipper (RB) and Boras (TE) are still here.

 

Anyway, when Daboll said late this season "I delegate a lot more than I used to" I was like "well drrrrr"

Yeah that was definitely interesting.

 

I actually don’t think any of those 2019 hires were his either, though. Dorsey was a McDermott hire, so was Bobby Johnson, and Chad Hall was originally hired by McDermott and promoted when Terry Robiskie was fired (for being an a-hole, reportedly). 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/1/25/18197101/buffalo-bills-coach-sean-mcdermott-explains-staff-shakeup-at-special-teams-offensive-line-coach/comment/501999739
 

Daboll brought in an assistant o line coach (Ryan Wendell, former patriot’s center) and assistant QB coach Shea Tierney (worked with Daboll at Alabama) 
 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/bills-add-former-patriots-center-as-offensive-assistant/article_a229e8a2-25f2-5c85-8f90-8f9810809510.html

 

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/report-buffalo-bills-hire-another-alabama-staff-member/
 

It’s one reason I’m hopeful we may be able to keep our offensive staff together if/when Daboll gets a head coaching job, although he may want to poach 

Edited January 28, 2021 by BillsFan4

[Hapless Bills Fan]

15 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

Yeah that was definitely interesting.

 

I actually don’t think any of those 2019 hires were his either, though. Dorsey was a McDermott hire, so was Bobby Johnson, and Chad Hall was originally hired by McDermott and promoted when Terry Robiskie was fired (for being an a-hole, reportedly). 

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2019/1/25/18197101/buffalo-bills-coach-sean-mcdermott-explains-staff-shakeup-at-special-teams-offensive-line-coach/comment/501999739
 

Daboll brought in an assistant o line coach (Ryan Wendell, former patriot’s center) and assistant QB coach Shea Tierney (worked with Daboll at Alabama) 
 

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/bills-add-former-patriots-center-as-offensive-assistant/article_a229e8a2-25f2-5c85-8f90-8f9810809510.html

 

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/report-buffalo-bills-hire-another-alabama-staff-member/
 

It’s one reason I’m hopeful we may be able to keep our offensive staff together if/when Daboll gets a head coaching job, although he may want to poach 

 

Interesting!  I had thought that Dorsey played in Cleveland when Daboll was OC there, but I looked it up and "nope"

 

 

 

 

[Process]

Well this sucks. 2 free draft picks would have been clutch. 

 

 

Edited January 28, 2021 by Process

[MWK]

55 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I've explained before that I'm prejudiced against Rob Boras because he was the OC on the StL-then LA Rams in 2015-2016.  Under him, Foles/Keenum and Keenum/Goff looked totally incompetent and incapable of playing QB at an NFL level.  Within 2 years, two of them were QB teams in the Superbowl and the third had played in the NFC Championship.  If anything ever showed the impact of coaching on QB, that checked my box.

 

Now maybe Rob Boras is a fantastic TE coach.  But I can't help wondering if it's coincidence that the two worst performing units on the offense, are the ones with assistants left over from Dennison's year.

 

Thank you. One of my biggest fears is that Boras could take over after Daboll leaves (unlikely, but you never know). As you said, he is extremely incompetent as an OC, those Rams teams had some of the worst offenses I have ever seen in my life. He is just completely out of his league. Who knows if he’s a good tight ends coach, but if we are seeing him run an offense, we are in more trouble than when we had Dennison. 

[YoloinOhio]

Disappointed for Frazier, but Bills are really fortunate to be able to retain all 3 coordinators for next year and their entire FO. Also helps with retaining the other assistants, who can sometimes follow a coordinator to a new HC position. 

[Rc2catch]

I generally like giving guys a shot over retreads. But given Houston’s issues this hire is CRAZY. Maybe this dude works out but it seems like a dart throw blindfolded. Gonna throw a first time coach with no play calling experience into that mess of a locker room. Yikes 

[Coach Tuesday]

He coordinated the worst passing attack in football yes?

 

You do you, Houston.

[Bangarang]

This might be one of the worst head coaching hires I’ve ever seen. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Haha-/ I have never seen a hire done out of spite. 

[Punching Bag]

2 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

This might be one of the worst head coaching hires I’ve ever seen. 

 

I guess you never heard of Adam 👀 Gase.

[Bangarang]

Just now, Limeaid said:

 

I guess you never heard of Adam 👀 Gase.

It’s up there with the likes of Gase and Rex. 

[Blank Stare]

This reeks of a desperate Chan Gailey like HC hire. For Culley’s sake, I hope it works out for him. Supposedly he struck up a pretty decent relationship with Watson a while ago. He’ll need to rekindle that flame and get him onboard to be successful out of the gate. I hope he does and keeps him out of the AFC East. 

[Coach Tuesday]

It’s official.

[YoloinOhio]

From what I remember about when he came to the Bills, his goal was to be a OC and then HC and that was why he left a longtime WR coach job to be a QB coach to get additional experience with another position. But when he left that WR job in KC, they had just gone through like an entire season without throwing a TD to a WR. Now he’s. Passing game coordinator for the worst passing team in the league. He has been an AHC twice so maybe that helps. My biggest concern from the Texans side would be he received little to no interest from any other teams for their HC positions. Kind of a red flag 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

From what I remember about when he came to the Bills, his goal was to be a OC and then HC and that was why he left a longtime WR coach job to be a QB coach to get additional experience with another position. But when he left that WR job in KC, they had just gone through like an entire season without throwing a TD to a WR. Now he’s. Passing game coordinator for the worst passing team in the league. He has been an AHC twice so maybe that helps. My biggest concern from the Texans side would be he received little to no interest from any other teams for their HC positions. Kind of a red flag 

kind of reminds of a Doug Marrone. Assistant head coach to strong head coaches, but with no playcalling duties.

[eball]

In Culley’s last two positions he led an awful QB room (2017-18 Buffalo) and an awful WR room (2019-20 Baltimore). 
 

Houston: Hire that man!

 

🤣😂

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 minute ago, eball said:

In Culley’s last two positions he led an awful QB room (2017-18 Buffalo) and an awful WR room (2019-20 Baltimore). 
 

Houston: Hire that man!

 

🤣😂

yes, but you are forgetting: he interviews very well. 

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I did not realize Culley had spent such a long time coaching with Andy Reid. 

 

So is this "we want someone from Andy Reid's coaching tree without waiting 2 weeks to interview Bieniemy?"

I think Bieniemy can interview this week - have they asked him to come back?

 

 

C'mon Man.  It's widely believed that McDermott and Frazier are jointly responsible for the defensive philosophy.  McDermott isn't going to hire anyone who does not share his POV on defense, and McDermott isn't getting fired.  Just what do you think this accomplishes?

I can understand you like Frazier, but too many times especially this year were the defense looked like they were looking at opposing offensives like they were the grim Reaper playing scared.

[Richard Noggin]

2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

He coordinated the worst passing attack in football yes?

 

You do you, Houston.

 

True. The productivity of his recent units, both the last 3 years of WRs in Baltimore and the 2017 QB in Buffalo, is not encouraging. However, as stated by a minority of posters, hiring a head coach doesn't have to be about previous productivity from a specific unit or position group. The hot coordinator or guy-with-a-sexy-scheme route is one way. But it can also be about leadership ability and management Softer, interpersonal skills. 

 

I think with Culley we can easily forgive "his" WR production in Baltimore the last three years with Jackson, and "his" QB production during Tyrod's last season (there WAS that one game in Seattle, though).