Rapaport: Patriots tried to trade for Diggs at same time as Buffalo

[YoloinOhio]

 

Belichick last saw Diggs score 3 TDs on him week 16

[TBBills]

[YoloinOhio]

Guess what happened the next day-

 

 

[TBBills]

14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Guess what happened the next day-

 

 

 

Just when you think you couldn't be more happy... Someone breaks a story like this.

 

Edited January 24, 2021 by TBBills

[Chandler#81]

I’m not crying! YOU’RE CRYING!

 

[GunnerBill]

Rapaport's story doesn't quite match the headline. He doesn't say New England ever made an offer. What he says is there was interest there and when the Bills made the offer and the Vikings were trying to create a bidding war they rang New England and offered them a chance to match. That isn't quite what you would infer from the headline. 

 

As for the Brady decision, maybe Diggs makes him reconsider.... my belief is he had already decided when he restructured his contract before the 2019 season to give himself the out that he was going to play the final couple of years of his career elsewhere. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Beane:  "Here's our offer, Minnesota."

*

Belichick: "How about some complementary passes to 'Orchids of Asia'?"

[gjv001]

Hope to see Bills vs Tampa Bay[ Brady] in Super Bowl.

[Doc]

53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Rapaport's story doesn't quite match the headline. He doesn't say New England ever made an offer. What he says is there was interest there and when the Bills made the offer and the Vikings were trying to create a bidding war they rang New England and offered them a chance to match. That isn't quite what you would infer from the headline. 

 

As for the Brady decision, maybe Diggs makes him reconsider.... my belief is he had already decided when he restructured his contract before the 2019 season to give himself the out that he was going to play the final couple of years of his career elsewhere. 

 

He says it with the "two final suitors."  If it were just a matter of calling anyone out-of-the-blue to see if they would match the Bills' offer, then it's not much of a story.  And the timing of Brady leaving the next day fits.

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

He says it with the "two final suitors."  If it were just a matter of calling anyone out-of-the-blue to see if they would match the Bills' offer, then it's not much of a story.  And the timing of Brady leaving the next day fits.

 

The story says there was interest. I am sure the Pats were interested and not being called out of the blue. But there is nothing in that story that suggests they ever made an offer. It was Minnesota ringing them, knowing they were interested, and trying to elicit an offer that didn't come. 

 

As for Brady, who knows if Diggs would have changed his mind.... but I think he was pretty set on leaving. From what has been reported his agent was talking to teams informally pretty much as soon as the Patriots season was done.

[Jpsredemption]

Considered vs tried are two different things 

[ALLEN1QB]

39 minutes ago, gjv001 said:

Hope to see Bills vs Tampa Bay[ Brady] in Super Bowl.

Agree I will take a 1 dimensional qb any day of the week.

[Brennan Huff]

We’re a winner see our prize

You’re a loser sits and cries

[scribo]

The Vikings made the right choice. Thank you, Minny!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Rapaport's story doesn't quite match the headline. He doesn't say New England ever made an offer. What he says is there was interest there and when the Bills made the offer and the Vikings were trying to create a bidding war they rang New England and offered them a chance to match. That isn't quite what you would infer from the headline. 

 

As for the Brady decision, maybe Diggs makes him reconsider.... my belief is he had already decided when he restructured his contract before the 2019 season to give himself the out that he was going to play the final couple of years of his career elsewhere. 

 

He says "it was the Bills and New England Patriots as the two final suitors" which implies that NE made an offer.

 

The scuttlebut from many was that Brady wanted to separate from Belichick, was done with the hometown discounts, and wanted to play elsewhere.

[Doc]

41 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

The story says there was interest. I am sure the Pats were interested and not being called out of the blue. But there is nothing in that story that suggests they ever made an offer. It was Minnesota ringing them, knowing they were interested, and trying to elicit an offer that didn't come. 

 

As for Brady, who knows if Diggs would have changed his mind.... but I think he was pretty set on leaving. From what has been reported his agent was talking to teams informally pretty much as soon as the Patriots season was done.

 

The story also said there were 2 final suitors.  There were probably 2 dozen teams (at least) who would have had interest in Diggs last year but that doesn't qualify them as "suitors."  And it's well-known that Brady was miffed at the Cheaters for the lack of weapons after taking less-than-market salary for a decade plus.  And then there was his decision to leave right after the trade fell through. 

 

Diggs may not have been enough to make Brady stay.  But not getting anyone worth ***** at the WR position definitely made Brady's decision a no-brainer.

[RedDog3940]

Diggs is "where he's supposed to be"

[TAinLack.]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Guess what happened the next day-

 

 

 

[Just Jack]

1 hour ago, gjv001 said:

Hope to see Bills vs Tampa Bay[ Brady] in Super Bowl.

 

I don't. Too many "stories" there.  Brady versus the Bills.  Tampa first team to play a SB in their own stadium, giving them a true advantage. 

 

[section122]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Guess what happened the next day-

 

 

 

[loyal2dagame]

Were the Pats* actually trying to get Diggs, or was Belicheat just driving up the Bills cost? 

[Doc]

28 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said:

Were the Pats* actually trying to get Diggs, or was Belicheat just driving up the Bills cost? 

 

Trying to get him.  Getting him likely means Brady stays and they knew Stidham was a stiff.

 

And if not...who cares?  Worked out great for the Bills and terrible for them.

[PrimeTime101]

3 hours ago, TBBills said:

YOU ARE  FuNNY GUY HHAHAHAHA

[YoloinOhio]

39 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said:

Were the Pats* actually trying to get Diggs, or was Belicheat just driving up the Bills cost? 

Yes because he didn’t actually want him I’m sure given his stellar group of WR

[Albany,n.y.]

2 hours ago, gjv001 said:

Hope to see Bills vs Tampa Bay[ Brady] in Super Bowl.

Why would you want to be the only team to ever play a Super Bowl in the opponent's stadium?  Home field in the Super Bowl is a huge advantage.  

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Why would you want to be the only team to ever play a Super Bowl in the opponent's stadium?  Home field in the Super Bowl is a huge advantage.  

I don’t think it will matter much tbh outside of being the answer to a future trivia question. 20k total with 7500 front line workers. Almost always a ton of corporate sponsors etc at the SB. No weather factor. 

[Albany,n.y.]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t think it will matter much tbh outside of being the answer to a future trivia question. 20k total with 7500 front line workers. Almost always a ton of corporate sponsors etc at the SB. No weather factor. 

It's not the number of and rabidity of the fans in the stands, it's the players situation.  The Bucs would be able to sleep at home all two weeks (with the possible exception of the night before) and not have the grind of a personal schedule that a normal Super Bowl team has.  If it's GB, they have the same travel & lodging schedule as the Bills.  Playing a Super Bowl at home is a HUGE advantage that would be difficult for any opponent to overcome.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said:

It's not the number of and rabidity of the fans in the stands, it's the players situation.  The Bucs would be able to sleep at home all two weeks (with the possible exception of the night before) and not have the grind of a personal schedule that a normal Super Bowl team has.  If it's GB, they have the same travel & lodging schedule as the Bills.  Playing a Super Bowl at home is a HUGE advantage that would be difficult for any opponent to overcome.

The teams arent coming in until 2 days before the game this year. 

Edited January 24, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[Albany,n.y.]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

The teams arent coming in until 2 days before the game this year. 

Tampa is coming in 14 days before the game. 

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Tampa is coming in 14 days before the game. 

Obviously - your point was that the teams wouldn’t be sleeping in their own beds for weeks or something. They clearly will. They have a charter flight and then play the game. It’s really not a HUGE advantage for Tampa. 

[loyal2dagame]

13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Yes because he didn’t actually want him I’m sure given his stellar group of WR

Just strange that the pats were never mentioned until 10 months later. At least i don't recall them being mentioned as suitor for diggs at any time leading up to the trade.  Buffalo and a few others were. 

[Albany,n.y.]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Obviously - your point was that the teams wouldn’t be sleeping in their own beds for weeks or something. They clearly will. They have a charter flight and then play the game. It’s really not a HUGE advantage for Tampa. 

Tampa has no travel at all for 2 weeks.  Meanwhile the Bills have to be planning travel, leaving Buffalo etc.  Let's agree to disagree but my hope is GB wins and I don't have to deal with this after 6:30 today. 

[YoloinOhio]

8 minutes ago, loyal2dagame said:

Just strange that the pats were never mentioned until 10 months later. At least i don't recall them being mentioned as suitor for diggs at any time leading up to the trade.  Buffalo and a few others were. 

Rap sheet was waiting for the perfect time to rub it in? When belicheat was getting ready to watch the afc championship game from his couch. 

[Doc]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Rap sheet was waiting for the perfect time to rub it in? When belicheat was getting ready to watch the afc championship game from his couch. 

 

And Brady in the NFCCG.  But hey, Belicheat might have gotten the Bills to pony-up an extra late rounder...

[Brand J]

Why even give NE* a chance to match the offer? If both were equal, would MIN have sent him to the Cheatriots?

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Why even give NE* a chance to match the offer? If both were equal, would MIN have sent him to the Cheatriots?

Probably because their initial offer was left open for negotiation and spielman may have targeted  one of their players in the deal 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He says "it was the Bills and New England Patriots as the two final suitors" which implies that NE made an offer.

 

The scuttlebut from many was that Brady wanted to separate from Belichick, was done with the hometown discounts, and wanted to play elsewhere.

 

Maybe. I don't think that necessarily implies there was an offer. I think it implies that they were the team Minnesota asked to match. They were the last call before they said yes to Buffalo.

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

The story also said there were 2 final suitors.  There were probably 2 dozen teams (at least) who would have had interest in Diggs last year but that doesn't qualify them as "suitors."  And it's well-known that Brady was miffed at the Cheaters for the lack of weapons after taking less-than-market salary for a decade plus.  And then there was his decision to leave right after the trade fell through. 

 

Diggs may not have been enough to make Brady stay.  But not getting anyone worth ***** at the WR position definitely made Brady's decision a no-brainer.

 

For sure Brady was pissed about his weapons. Just think it was probably a decision already made at that point. To sign with Tampa on the 17th he was in detailed conversations with them on the 16th. 

[Solomon Grundy]

There is an old adage "People will never remember who came in second"

[Brand J]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Probably because their initial offer was left open for negotiation and spielman may have targeted  one of their players in the deal 

The way I see it, the only team that should be afforded the right to match an offer is the initial team that inquired about the trade. All other teams should only be given the chance to exceed the deal offered by that initial team. 

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Maybe. I don't think that necessarily implies there was an offer. I think it implies that they were the team Minnesota asked to match. They were the last call before they said yes to Buffalo.

 

For sure Brady was pissed about his weapons. Just think it was probably a decision already made at that point. To sign with Tampa on the 17th he was in detailed conversations with them on the 16th. 

There were multiple offers as I recall hearing on Chris spielmans podcast last year.  Seeing as how the pats are almost always in the WR market (and have overpaid in the past like with Sanu) makes sense they were one of them and that the Vikes made sure to check with them before pulling the trigger.