Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: The forecast keeps changing. I just saw a forecast saying winds 10-20 MPH, blowing from scoreboard towards the tunnel at game time. It sounds like it's going to snow to some degree....the temp will be around 30 F at game time. I think the wind will play a role. We could get freezing rain, snow, wind, as others have said they are even calling for a mini lake effect system developing with emphasis on only some locations in WNY, but including Orchard Park. My guess is the weather impacts the game. man, I really am praying for the wind to be pretty calm. It would royally backfire to have gotten home field advantage to only be done in by the Buffalo weather. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: man, I really am praying for the wind to be pretty calm. It would royally backfire to have gotten home field advantage to only be done in by the Buffalo weather. I concur but not gonna happen, High winds now forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, nucci said: I concur but not gonna happen, High winds now forecast Looks like deteriorating conditions as the game progresses. Starting strong is going to be key. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Lamar was pretty bad against New England in the rain, I think any kind of bad weather is good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: Lamar was pretty bad against New England in the rain, I think any kind of bad weather is good for us. even though we are a passing offense and high winds hurt us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 23 hours ago, Whites Bay said: 60% chance of snow, and west winds 9 mph - 13 mph. Wonder what that means for the gusts? Sharp, high-speed jukes are going to be hard for both teams. Straight ahead football. Hope the lines are healthy. Sorry to bump my own post from yesterday, but I thought it would help to see how the forecast has changed side-by-side. The new forecast: Saturday: A chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 37. West wind 8 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible. Saturday night: Snow showers likely, mainly after 11pm. Cloudy, with a low around 31. Breezy, with a west wind 16 to 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible. So the biggest change over the past 24 hours is the wind. We're now talking upwards of 20 mph by the second half (up from 13 mph yesterday morning). And if a snow band settles on the stadium...buckle up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 might be chilly. weather could have equal (bad) effect for both teams. it will come down to stopping the run and avoiding/creating turnovers. weather is and has always been a factor in buffalo, especially in January. it has been to buffalos advantage in the past and with JA's arm strength to make some throws, could prove to be an advantage again. just depends on how the wind and precipitation affects the throws/catches? for both teams. my feeling is so far with 14 (15 minus HM) wins and all of them battle of their own, weather should not be the determining factor on winning or losing. it will be how you adjust as a team to it and prioritize stopping the run and disrupting Jackson by getting to him (sacks) and/or containing (pressuring him in to bad throws) him in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Seeing as how there’s nobody on the Bills who’s ever played a football game in WNY this deep into January it’s pretty hard to say what the weather will do to any of them! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Seeing as how there’s nobody on the Bills who’s ever played a football game in WNY this deep into January it’s pretty hard to say what the weather will do to any of them! Lots of uncertainty for sure! Josh has played in the snow before though: https://gowyo.com/news/2017/11/4/football-allen-and-company-keep-bronze-boot-in-laramie-with-16-13-win-over-csu.aspx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I can see the kicking game being affected. Suspect the kickers and punters will be doing a fair number of reps in warmups. Could see a lot of 4th and 3 plays if they are going against the wind. Wish we were better on 4th down plays, just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Looks like deteriorating conditions as the game progresses. Starting strong is going to be key. I’d be more inclined to get the weather forecast from a local source. The national forecast is usually off. There is a possibility of pop up bands coming in. We get surprised often with lake effect storms that were not forecasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Per the NWS for Orchard Park Saturday Night: Snow showers likely, mainly after 10pm. Cloudy, with a low around 30. Breezy, with a west wind 16 to 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 3 inches possible. ICE THE RAVENS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Snow and weather usually favors the Running team. I hope being a Florida boy is enough to slow Jackson down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Cloudy with a chance of meatballs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 A few articles on throwing the ball in high winds. Bottom line: 1) Can’t loft the ball— need to throw on a line. 2) need to focus on intermediate and short routes. 3) wind shouldn’t be a problem 0-15 MPH. Over 20 MPH is where you see QB’s stats start to drop off. https://www.sportsrec.com/throw-football-bad-weather-conditions-4546297.html https://towardsdatascience.com/football-weather-diving-into-the-effects-of-weather-on-nfl-qb-performance-f0edb420623d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Josh Allen has been throwing frozen ropes all season. He will still get it done. Lamar Jackson's passes have a wobble, which are likely to be seriously impacted by wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Snow and weather usually favors the Running team. I hope being a Florida boy is enough to slow Jackson down. Allen to Diggs is the hottest connection in the NFL. While windy, wintery weather does hurt the connection and may limit what Buffalo can do through the air. Flying under the radar for the most part this season however is the down hill running abilities of Josh Allen. Threat to run? You better believe it Ravens fans. Edited January 15, 2021 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: man, I really am praying for the wind to be pretty calm. It would royally backfire to have gotten home field advantage to only be done in by the Buffalo weather. 10-20 mph winds with the potential for snow showers shouldn’t be an issue for our passing game. That being said, it’s on the edge of getting dicey if any heavy bands move through and winds tick up to 20+. The hope I have is that by putting White on Brown, along with moderate winds (Lamar doesn’t have a massive arm), it could effectively take away their most explosive deep passing weapon. Then we’d be able to focus on the run game, Andrews and Snead/Boykin etc. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Figster said: Allen to Diggs is the hottest connection in the NFL. While windy, wintery weather does hurt the connection and may limit what Buffalo can do through the air. Flying under the radar for the most part this season however is the down hill running abilities of Josh Allen. Threat to run? You better believe it Ravens fans. Allen's running abilities are under the radar? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 hours ago, CapeBreton said: Lamar was pretty bad against New England in the rain, I think any kind of bad weather is good for us. I dont know if I would call it rain, it was more like a monsoon,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 hours ago, nucci said: even though we are a passing offense and high winds hurt us? This is why we drafted Allen. He has the arm strength to cut through those winds. Lamar does not. To me, this should make the Buffalo D that much more committed to stopping the Baltimore run with 8 in the box. I think the weather will help as long as our WRs are able to catch the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: A few articles on throwing the ball in high winds. Bottom line: 1) Can’t loft the ball— need to throw on a line. 2) need to focus on intermediate and short routes. 3) wind shouldn’t be a problem 0-15 MPH. Over 20 MPH is where you see QB’s stats start to drop off. https://www.sportsrec.com/throw-football-bad-weather-conditions-4546297.html https://towardsdatascience.com/football-weather-diving-into-the-effects-of-weather-on-nfl-qb-performance-f0edb420623d Sounds perfect for Allen. He never lofts his passes... it's actually something I wish he would do more, but the way he throws cuts through wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Sounds perfect for Allen. He never lofts his passes... it's actually something I wish he would do more, but the way he throws cuts through wind. i mostly agree with you— though I noticed since the Broncos game, he has actually developed a great loft on his deep ball now. But let’s hope he sticks with those lasers tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i mostly agree with you— though I noticed since the Broncos game, he has actually developed a great loft on his deep ball now. But let’s hope he sticks with those lasers tomorrow. But his loft isn't the same type of loft you'll see from the likes of Russell Wilson. Allen's deep ball still seems to cut through the air more rather than be a drop in the bucket the way Wilson does it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, nucci said: Allen's running abilities are under the radar? In comparison to Allens threat to pass, what do you think? In comparison to Lamar Jackson? Yes, Josh Allen has used his legs sparingly this season by design. Slowing down the passing game of Buffalo is a must If your the opposition. Stopping the run almost an afterthought IMO. Josh Allen can run the football like Cam Newton in his prime IMO. He just hasn't been doing it. Josh Allens running abilities are still flying under the radar in my opinion. By design. Edited January 15, 2021 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Allen running makes me think it was partially to create a second take from Indy as they haven’t employed in forever, but even moreso, will make Harbaugh think twice. I love it in retrospect. Make them blink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) "Big strong arm that can slice through winds and weather" This has always been a junk notion. I'm guessing the model here was Bledsoe or Elway. Watch great cold weather or snow games....all screen passes and lots of running. Best Cold weather QBs ever were guys like Starr, Brady, Flutie, Kosar, Bradshaw. Kelly was one too, and Kelly had a middle to strong arm but i never felt it was as live as the upper guys that started coming on the scene in the 90s like Favre. Watch those old K gun weather games and see how many screen yards Thurmal and Kenny Davis reaped. Gotta adjust playcalling for weather, cant just heave it downfield. Edited January 15, 2021 by RichRiderBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Anyone else remember when the Pats blew out the Titans 59-0 in the snow? Brady threw for 380 yards and 6 TDs. My memory is fuzzy but I don’t remember it being particularly windy however. But if we’re talking just snow, it’s been done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Figster said: In comparison to Allens threat to pass, what do you think? In comparison to Lamar Jackson? Yes, Josh Allen has used his legs sparingly this season by design. Slowing down the passing game of Buffalo is a must If your the opposition. Stopping the run almost an afterthought IMO. Josh Allen can run the football like Cam Newton in his prime IMO. He just hasn't been doing it. Josh Allens running abilities are still flying under the radar in my opinion. By design. I get he's not running as much but his ability to run is well known around the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, nucci said: I get he's not running as much but his ability to run is well known around the league Different usage and interpretation of flying under the radar I suppose. Its all good... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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