Miyagi-Do Karate 4,421 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 11/30/2020 at 12:37 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Vrabel is a meathead. He inherited a playoff team. He then has two 9-7 seasons, and 1 playoff appearance. Yeah, the Titans won some playoff games last year, but I think the jury is still out on him being a great coach (or even a good one). If you recall, they couldn't fill their stadium for half the year, until they went on a late-season run. while we are bumping— Mr. Miyagi looking very wise. Very wise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MJS 8,291 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I mainly just hate vrabel so had to dig up that he was on this list Ugh, he is way overrated. I'm right there with you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rock-A-Bye Beasley 777 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Not a fan of Vrabel. Shouldn’t have punted on 4th and 2 from the 40. Why are you paying Derrick Henry if not for that exact situation. As for McDermott. I’m pleasantly surprised we have a passing attack considering his rhetoric in first 3 seasons. I have an unprovable suspicion he’s the reason we are very conservative while backed up on offense. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tuel Time 272 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 McD can change. Remember when we loved fullbacks? 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RyanC883 2,119 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 11 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Not a fan of Vrabel. Shouldn’t have punted on 4th and 2 from the 40. Why are you paying Derrick Henry if not for that exact situation. As for McDermott. I’m pleasantly surprised we have a passing attack considering his rhetoric in first 3 seasons. I have an unprovable suspicion he’s the reason we are very conservative while backed up on offense. not going for it on 4th and 2 was ridiculous. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
london_bills 631 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I'm the only person on this board who's ever been wrong! ☺ If we lost yesterday he would of been seen as not good enough by many. 0-3 in playoffs. Fine margins Edited January 10 by london_bills 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YoloinOhio 52,557 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 25 minutes ago, MJS said: Ugh, he is way overrated. I'm right there with you. A buddy of mine had his kid in youth sports with his kid. He was exactly as you would imagine as a youth sports parent. Cursing out the refs, belittling the coaches. They said he was a complete Neanderthal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Over 29 years of fanhood 5,914 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tuel Time said: McD can change. Remember when we loved fullbacks? that’s his best attribute. He has zero sacred cows. Winning, reflection and continuous improvement are everything for him. Edited January 10 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beast 5,672 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 11 minutes ago, london_bills said: If we lost yesterday he would of been seen as not good enough by many. 0-3 in playoffs. Fine margins And if my Aunt..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rock-A-Bye Beasley 777 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 53 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: I'm the only person on this board who's ever been wrong! ☺ I feel for ya. I made a similar and more negative thread after the opening day loss to the Ravens in 2018. it’s amazing the same coach/GM that had peterman as opening day starter and shelter for Josh Allen got us to this point. 4 minutes ago, Beast said: And if my Aunt..... My aunt is bisexual Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein's Dog 100 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 12 minutes ago, london_bills said: If we lost yesterday he would of been seen as not good enough by many. 0-3 in playoffs. Fine margins And by not losing McD has now exonerated that no playoff win concern (thank god- it would have taken a whole year for another shot). Now, there is undeniable year over year improvement. Improved record, improved/dangerous offense, and playoff victory. The future is bright. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WideNine 2,682 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 McD is stubbornly loyal and resistant to making quick changes to his approach. He values continuity over the chaos of reactive leadership. This sometimes is frustrating and reminds me of that comic picture of a captain saluting as his ship sinks and the waters cover him, but that is part of his concept of process; an organization that has a vision and will stay on course pursuing that vision and is not going to become reactionary. That being said, he clearly believes there is a right time for internal discussions and self-scouting, as well as being open to philosophical/strategic coaching changes. For example, they went out and found a new o-line coach, they went out and found a new special teams coach. Both of these moves have paid dividends over the longer term. After a win you can get roasted here if you critique some of the ways our team could have played better. I do think this is misguided because I think it falls into that reactionary mindset of "this team sucks fire them all" after a loss and "this team is unstoppable" after a win. These are just fans being carried along by the emotion of the game - I get it and try not to take it personally when folks go nuts if I criticize a play. But McD when told that Allen had said post-game (paraphrasing here) that he was happy that although the team started out slow they were able to find their groove and move the ball/score, and then McD was asked if he was happy about that ability the offense had to course-correct. His response, was to smile and comment that he would rather we did not fall behind to start out a game. That is a fair response from a coach, and one that also shows that he is aware that our defense this year plays much better with a padded lead where they can focus on stopping the pass. He has done a good job with this team and is trying to build something sustainable. It has been fugly at times, but it is hard to argue with his track record to date. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/video/2020-nfl-on-fox-awards-sean-mcdermott-named-coach-of-the-year/vi-BB1cznsH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rochesterfan 1,810 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Where do we stand now? Outcoached another guy on your list. great job McD! 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John from Riverside 7,584 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 EPIC.....this thread is good luck just like Pegula's socks 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoHuddleKelly12 4,727 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 This has aged like fine curdled buttermilk. Carry on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TroutDog 2,844 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I love these threads from the ‘glass is ALWAYS empty’ people. This team is real. This coaching group is real. This front office team is real. GRASP REALITY!!! 😃 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott7975 2,863 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: This has aged like fine curdled buttermilk. Carry on! It has but not nearly as much as "miami is going to win the division" "Bills will lose 12 straight" "Dont look now but the Pats are making a comeback and dont be surprised if they keep the Bills from the wildcard" "Can't win with this point differential" and the list goes on and on. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 1,244 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) On 1/10/2021 at 4:43 PM, YoloinOhio said: A buddy of mine had his kid in youth sports with his kid. He was exactly as you would imagine as a youth sports parent. Cursing out the refs, belittling the coaches. They said he was a complete Neanderthal. Who you talking about Vrabel?? Edited January 17 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Tognarelli 1,751 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Here we effing go again. 😂😂 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SageAgainstTheMachine 1,426 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Here we effing go again. 😂😂 Good on ya for owning it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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