Looks like we're shorthanded tomorrow - Covid-19

[Manther]

7 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Well *****. Levi played well last week and if Hyde isn’t right Marlowe will be missed.

IMO we will miss Marlowe the most.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, Manther said:

IMO we will miss Marlowe the most.

 

I'm not good at this so anyone else "All In" on a prayer circle for the health of Micah Hyde's ankle?

[Nitro]

LB Darron Lee, CB Daryl Worley, WR Jake Kumerow, S Josh Thomas and CB Dane Jackson are not scrubs.  I think the impact will not be that great.

[LABILLBACKER]

9 hours ago, Estro said:

This will make the win even that much sweeter.

 

Man Josh Norman has really cost the Bills this year.  Next to nothing as far as contributing on the field.....and now taking out starters and contributors in a big game.  Maybe not his fault, but also not entirely not his fault either.  

Josh Norman's highlight was getting pancaked by Henry.  I love the idea of seeing Dane all day. This is going to be 42-35 Bills. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Josh Norman's highlight was getting pancaked by Henry.  I love the idea of seeing Dane all day. This is going to be 42-35 Bills. 

 

Oh, C'mon now.  You know this play "sealed the deal" against the Raiders.

https://www.nfl.com/videos/derrick-henry-s-best-runs-from-103-yard-game-week-10

I'm not so concerned about Norman, though, on the "don't miss what you haven''t had" principle.

 

Nothing against Dane, I think he's a good player, but Wallace does have more experience, and if Hyde can't go, Marlow is more proven.

[eball]

9 hours ago, MJS said:

 

Anyone with a pulse will have to play.

So the guys without pulses just get the day off? That doesn’t seem fair. 

[Peace Frog]

9 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

Mother.

 

****er.

Mother father?

[PUNT750]

10 hours ago, Virgil said:

That’s going to hurt a lot against this passing offense.

 

Not a good look Norman

Why can't Norman just go home for the rest of the season!

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[JoPoy88]

46 minutes ago, Nitro said:

LB Darron Lee, CB Daryl Worley, WR Jake Kumerow, S Josh Thomas and CB Dane Jackson are not scrubs.  I think the impact will not be that great.

jackson looks not bad but worley is kinda terrible. Let’s hope you’re right. Marlowe gone is an underrated loss, even if he only plays around 25% of snaps normally.

[Taraka]

9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think he knows that which is why he said the tracing process is fascinating. It’s not easy to determine just by observation 

yeah I'm fascinated also...fascinated he would tweet such a thing  that might even conceivably impact the Bills negatively and invite scrutiny. Idiot.

[JoPoy88]

41 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Josh Norman's highlight was getting pancaked by Henry.  I love the idea of seeing Dane all day. This is going to be 42-35 Bills. 

To be fair, norman did make one good play forcing that fumble against vegas (even though poyer teed it up for him by reading waller and forcing him to switch hands with the ball.) on balance though, yeah he’s done close to nothing. The fascination with ex-panthers is really the only misstep this FO has made, the huge homerun with daryl williams aside.

[US Egg]

Never fear, McD is here.

[Da webster guy]

10 hours ago, Virgil said:

That’s going to hurt a lot against this passing offense.

 

Not a good look Norman

 

Gotta say im kinda tired of the Panthers retreads.  Its a 50% hit rate, and Josh Norman is startin to feel a lot like Kelvin Benjamin.  Big name but below average play and not good enough to rely on.

10 hours ago, Virgil said:

That’s going to hurt a lot against this passing offense.

 

Not a good look Norman

 

Gotta say im kinda tired of the Panthers retreads.  Its a 50% hit rate, and Josh Norman is startin to feel a lot like Kelvin Benjamin.  Big name but below average play and not good enough to rely on.

[Buffalophil1948]

All I can think is that Norman practices like he plays in the game. Not 1 WR within 6 ft of him at any time

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, C'mon now.  You know this play "sealed the deal" against the Raiders.

https://www.nfl.com/videos/derrick-henry-s-best-runs-from-103-yard-game-week-10

I'm not so concerned about Norman, though, on the "don't miss what you haven''t had" principle.

 

Nothing against Dane, I think he's a good player, but Wallace does have more experience, and if Hyde can't go, Marlow is more proven.

Just realized you pointed that out before i did! 

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Maybe we run it more than 18% this week.  While I didn't state this in my post, I don't think the drop off between knox and Kroft is much if anything.  While Knox hasn't done much of anything this season, he's still a big legit target that defenses can't just ignore.   Sending out Lee Smith 15 times on pass plays and the defense may just ignore him, don't think you can do that with Knox.  Agree we may be more limited in two TE set but Gilliam does have is it two TD's?

 

Hope teams follow your advice and just ignore players you do not like.  Josh will distribute the ball to players not covered.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:

jackson looks not bad but worley is kinda terrible. Let’s hope you’re right. Marlowe gone is an underrated loss, even if he only plays around 25% of snaps normally.

 

The fact that his playing time plummeted and he got cut on the Cowboys, who aren't exactly stout on D, is not promising but I don't really know a thing about how they were trying to use him.  Do you have any info?  He seems like a guy who had some promise but got his life into a bad place with alcohol or substance abuse.

 

I agree that in a normal game with Poyer and Hyde both healthy, Marlowe is still a contributor.  But will Hyde be able to go, and if he does go, will he last through the game?  Jaquan Johnson is listed on the Bills roster as Hyde's backup, but it was Marlowe who played 100% of the defensive snaps when Hyde was out with concussion.

[Buddo]

If Hyde is good to go, we should be largely okay I think. Kroft will be a loss, as will Wallace and Marlowe, but they haven't been essential guys to how the team has been performing.

 

Otoh, if Hyde isn't going to play, then we are 'in trouble', as his loss impacts the secondary hugely, and with Marlowe out, that also has a knock on effect.

[BornAgainBillsFan]

4 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

Gotta say im kinda tired of the Panthers retreads.  Its a 50% hit rate, and Josh Norman is startin to feel a lot like Kelvin Benjamin.  Big name but below average play and not good enough to rely on.

 

This "Carolina Connection" has to stop. It was kinda cool for a while, when it felt like we had some "inside information" on hidden gems on the Panthers. But now it just feels like we've been getting conned by players and their agents, trying for one last contract before the league learns they don't belong anymore.

 

I love you, McBeane. You're the reason we're knocking on the door right now. But do us all a favor and stop taking calls from Charlotte!

[Beast]

6 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

 

Gotta say im kinda tired of the Panthers retreads.  Its a 50% hit rate, and Josh Norman is startin to feel a lot like Kelvin Benjamin.  Big name but below average play and not good enough to rely on.

 

Gotta say im kinda tired of the Panthers retreads.  Its a 50% hit rate, and Josh Norman is startin to feel a lot like Kelvin Benjamin.  Big name but below average play and not good enough to rely on.

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

8 hours ago, eball said:

So the guys without pulses just get the day off? That doesn’t seem fair. 

Just laying around, flies buzzing around. This stinks. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, BornAgainBillsFan said:

 

This "Carolina Connection" has to stop. It was kinda cool for a while, when it felt like we had some "inside information" on hidden gems on the Panthers. But now it just feels like we've been getting conned by players and their agents, trying for one last contract before the league learns they don't belong anymore.

 

I love you, McBeane. You're the reason we're knocking on the door right now. But do us all a favor and stop taking calls from Charlotte!

 

These guys are free agents, for the most part.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

No, he’s describing how contract tracing works and it’s not based on being a foot away from someone 

I think he's hoping to get called into Mrs. P's office. "You're banned for a week, now turn around and bend over." 😳

52 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Just laying around, flies buzzing around. This stinks. 

Make them binge watch a season or two of the 'Walking Dead' franchise? 🤔

[machine gun kelly]

I don’t know why some are overreacting to these Covid hold outs.  Wallace and Norman have been out for weeks, Marlowe is a back up, and Kroft, ok, but Knox was going to get back in there anyway.  You’d think by some reactions, it was Diggs, Allen, Poyer, and Tre.  In that scenario, ok the sky is falling, but not these guys.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Was anyone able to identify how in the world Tyler Kroft was grouped in as a close contact with Josh Norman? 

[DrPJax]

I think any blows to the secondary in this game are just not good as the passing game is how Arizona can beat us. Wallace just as depth is a loss if someone goes down during the game. Plus white tends to struggle against Hopkins,,,,see the playoff game and other prior games as Hopkins has stated he likes matching up against white , and also throw a rookie in there with a Hof Fitzgerald and a hot Murray and this is a set up for us giving up some explosive plays.   Hyde has a gimpy ankle as well.   Murray is amazingly quick , and I have some doubt we will keep him as locked down as Wilson was concerning the run.   Kroft has made some clutch catches , something Knox seems to avoid this year.

 

  Not saying we can’t overcome this if Josh has a great day, but the margin for error is tightened.   Norman has proven thus far to be a huge waste. One decent game out of 9 , posterized by the Titans, and now being possibly lax with his own health / protocol adherence resulting in a net negative for the team. Year is not over but this guy is getting harder to appreciate. 🤔😀. And he sure has made some easy money.  Wish they would just IR or cut bait with him imho. 

[Mr. WEO]

The only time they will list Norman as a positive this season....

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

The only time they will list Norman as a positive this season....

 

Oooh 🔥🔥

 

Again, be fair - that fumble.

 

I will say, I wasn't looking forward to him starting ahead of Wallace if they did that.  In theory he could be better, but in practice he got toasted.

 

But I can't call it a positive to take out Wallace and Marlowe and Kroft.

 

9 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Was anyone able to identify how in the world Tyler Kroft was grouped in as a close contact with Josh Norman? 

 

In a word: No. 

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oooh 🔥🔥

 

Again, be fair - that fumble.

 

I will say, I wasn't looking forward to him starting ahead of Wallace if they did that.  In theory he could be better, but in practice he got toasted.

 

But I can't call it a positive to take out Wallace and Marlowe and Kroft.

 

LOL...he's this year's Kelvin Benjamin.

 

Norman has appeared in 3 games all year--hasn't played in a month.  Now his team contribution is as a superspreader.  

 

6 million for 1 play.  At least Beane won't have to sweat out this bum's incentive bonuses...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

LOL...he's this year's Kelvin Benjamin.

 

Norman has appeared in 3 games all year--hasn't played in a month.  Now his team contribution is as a superspreader.  

 

6 million for 1 play.  At least Beane won't have to sweat out this bum's incentive bonuses...

 

Except that he signed as a FA, we didn't give picks for him

And we're paying him way less money

 

But no question, the contribution has not been there

 

I doubt we'll see a "superspreader" off him, given what he said about testing positive and negative.  I shut up now.

[BornAgainBillsFan]

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

These guys are free agents, for the most part.

 

That's why I said "players and their agents". I think they're taking advantage of the Bills' open door policy, when it comes to former Carolina players.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Was anyone able to identify how in the world Tyler Kroft was grouped in as a close contact with Josh Norman? 

He was one of the very few NFL receivers Norman was ever close enough to bother contact tracing...

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

LOL...he's this year's Kelvin Benjamin.

 

Norman has appeared in 3 games all year--hasn't played in a month.  Now his team contribution is as a superspreader.  

 

6 million for 1 play.  At least Beane won't have to sweat out this bum's incentive bonuses...

 

Yep, what happened with Norman is exactly what Beane thought bringing him in.

#hindsightmakesyousmart

[Beast]

Josh Norman's Bills career summed up in photos:

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

50 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Yep, what happened with Norman is exactly what Beane thought bringing him in.

#hindsightmakesyousmart

lol...hindsight?? He was benched.....in WASHINGTON!!!  And then they cut him.  Snd this is after signing him to top money for CB.

 

yeah, no one could have seen this coming

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

lol...hindsight?? He was benched.....in WASHINGTON!!!  And then they cut him.  Snd this is after signing him to top money for CB.

 

yeah, no one could have seen this coming

 

You are so much smarter than Beane.  I'm happy for you.

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

You are so much smarter than Beane.  I'm happy for you.

hes a very smart guy no doubt.  
 

I was pointing out the error in your post.  

[machine gun kelly]

It wasn’t a bad signing.  $6 mil. For a guy who used to an all pro and knows our defense.  Whether it works or not is irrelevant.  We’ll see.

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

hes a very smart guy no doubt.  
 

I was pointing out the error in your post.  

 

Beane thought he was worth the chance of becoming a one year 2a/2b CB and the injuries/covid didn't allow to fully see if it worked or not.

I would bet that in "hindsight" Beane would agree with that.

 

That's what I was pointing out.  I take no pleasure in that fact so far.  I do hope he can get well and help out some later in the season.

 

[Mr. WEO]

14 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Beane thought he was worth the chance of becoming a one year 2a/2b CB and the injuries/covid didn't allow to fully see if it worked or not.

I would bet that in "hindsight" Beane would agree with that.

 

That's what I was pointing out.  I take no pleasure in that fact so far.  I do hope he can get well and help out some later in the season.

 

The wisdom of this signing was discussed here extensively at the time. Without injury or COVID, his play had deteriorated in DC to the point he was benched week 13 and cut at the end of the season.  Lots of posters guessed he was likely done at that time, so your insistence on calling this prediction as “hindsight” is simply incorrect.  He is the guy Washington gave the boot to.