Adamb412 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I think the bills should embrace their offense and just try to win games in shootouts. After tonight I bet the giants would be willing to take offers for engram. We need a tight end and knox can't stay healthy. I say we ship kroft and a third for engram. The dude is fast as *****. The giants just don't know how to use him in my opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 It’s really ridiculous how misused he is. To think they’re asking him to catch the game sealing pass when he should just be used to... carry the bags? Obviously one play doesn’t define a player, but if Knox drops that pass here we’d be discussing which flavor of dry rub to use on him for the rotisserie.... I’m feeling lemon pepper myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsToast Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Well it would make it fun to watch. The problem is we don't have the O-line to have a balanced offense to make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Engram is overrated. Don't need another injury prone TE who hasn't lived up to the hype. Flashed his rookie year and hasn't done much since. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Adamb412 said: I think the bills should embrace their offense and just try to win games in shootouts. After tonight I bet the giants would be willing to take offers for engram. We need a tight end and knox can't stay healthy. I say we ship kroft and a third for engram. The dude is fast as *****. The giants just don't know how to use him in my opinion As a random thought thread it’s not terrible. I love Engram I’d take him in a second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamb412 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, billieve420 said: Engram is overrated. Don't need another injury prone TE who hasn't lived up to the hype. Flashed his rookie year and hasn't done much since. Kroft is useless and knox is even more hurt then engram. Engram would be an upgrade and you know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, Adamb412 said: Kroft is useless and knox is even more hurt then engram. Engram would be an upgrade and you know it Yeah sure would miss those game sealing drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamb412 Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, billieve420 said: Yeah sure would miss those game sealing drops. It was one drop. You know how many drops diggs had in minnesota 2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: As a random thought thread it’s not terrible. I love Engram I’d take him in a second. What is engram salary and contrct ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Adamb412 said: It was one drop. You know how many drops diggs had in minnesota What is engram salary and contrct ? The issue with the offense is not being able to run the ball effectively. Engram is not going to help with that. When you are constantly in 3rd and long it will come to bite you eventually. Instead focus on fixing the defense which in turn will help the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I am for anything that makes the team better, whether it is offense, defense or special teams. Upgrade anywhere you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanfreek Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, billieve420 said: The issue with the offense is not being able to run the ball effectively. Engram is not going to help with that. When you are constantly in 3rd and long it will come to bite you eventually. Instead focus on fixing the defense which in turn will help the offense. While I also agree with your take on a balanced team and improving one side will help the other; if we added him like the OP said...now that’s at LEAST 4 guys on the field you have to account for. 5 if you’re all in on the Davis train and I sure as hell am. And 6 with Josh taking off. We would be the “keep up with the points” team we always wanted to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Adamb412 said: What is engram salary and contrct ? Not sure he’s still on his rookie deal though I believe so not outrageous edit: yeah he’s cheap for 1 more year after this. Edited October 23, 2020 by JoPoy88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 No more injury plagued players. Especially not a TE with a year left on this contract. I’d MUCH rather have that pick. Nice player but not worth it imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 46 minutes ago, NewEra said: No more injury plagued players. Especially not a TE with a year left on this contract. I’d MUCH rather have that pick. Nice player but not worth it imo I can understand this take as well. Engram hasn’t been reliable with injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Absolutely you try to improve Tight End. This team is limping along with Knox and Kroft and Lee Smith. Engram is a first round talent and young veteran. As constructed the Bills aren’t good enough to do much of anything in the Playoffs, we see how one WR injury (Brown) depletes this offense. You’re never as deep as you think you are. Knox has had plenty of chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Not sure he’s still on his rookie deal though I believe so not outrageous edit: yeah he’s cheap for 1 more year after this. $6 mill isn't all that cheap for a TE. Considering the money we have under the cap next year, to me it"s too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Or we can sink more money/draft picks into the DT position. much like a gambler who is chasing to catch up I think it will pay off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 If they are working on offense I think it would be better to build the line. One that can actually run block. Our O problem is they are one dimensional and Josh doesn't really run anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Absolutely you try to improve Tight End. This team is limping along with Knox and Kroft and Lee Smith. Engram is a first round talent and young veteran. As constructed the Bills aren’t good enough to do much of anything in the Playoffs, we see how one WR injury (Brown) depletes this offense. You’re never as deep as you think you are. Knox has had plenty of chances. Agreed. Roster is not good enuf on either line or at LB. (Edmunds will go down as a huge bust. Should be cut after this season. And defense should be built around Milano) Offense is very good at WR, but they are all fairly small except for Davis. Another bigger weapon would be a big boost. Engram is an excellent athlete. No comparison to Knox who is tough but a stiff w stone hands and no fluidity to his game. I would bring him in in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Yo, puppy. You start a thread with ‘hear me out’, you lose all cred before the next word is typed. Heed the call. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Yo, puppy. You start a thread with ‘hear me out’, you lose all cred before the next word is typed. Heed the call. This should be a red flag phrase that that automatically locks the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 If the Bills do anything trade wise I hope they improve the lines. It doesn't matter which side of the ball as we need help on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, billieve420 said: Yeah sure would miss those game sealing drops. We had plenty the last two weeks. 4 minutes ago, Steve O said: This should be a red flag phrase that that automatically locks the thread. Might as well start the thread. "It doesn't make any sense and we probably shouldn't do it but..." Edited October 23, 2020 by formerlyofCtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Adamb412 said: I think the bills should embrace their offense and just try to win games in shootouts. After tonight I bet the giants would be willing to take offers for engram. We need a tight end and knox can't stay healthy. I say we ship kroft and a third for engram. The dude is fast as *****. The giants just don't know how to use him in my opinion I was hoping for Knox to make a statement this season that he’s our true # 1 TE moving forward, but just as everyone else I’m starting to lose hope , i don’t know if Engram is the one but I’m all for bringing/trading what ever it cost to give Josh a LEGIT weapon at the position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 58 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Yo, puppy. You start a thread with ‘hear me out’, you lose all cred before the next word is typed. Heed the call. You be the mod.....what if you and your fellow mods block all Probationary members from starting new threads???? I know I am not the only person who feels this way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: $6 mill isn't all that cheap for a TE. Considering the money we have under the cap next year, to me it"s too expensive. That’s what Kroft is getting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 12 hours ago, whatdrought said: It’s really ridiculous how misused he is. To think they’re asking him to catch the game sealing pass when he should just be used to... carry the bags? Obviously one play doesn’t define a player, but if Knox drops that pass here we’d be discussing which flavor of dry rub to use on him for the rotisserie.... I’m feeling lemon pepper myself. ...just mind boggling for how long the TE spot has been this club's Achilles Heel.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I want to sign Mo Alie-Cox for a fraction of Engram's cost after the season. Mo is a true breakout waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 This is the guy some of us want to trade for because Knox drops too many passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Oh no, it's the dreaded hear me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 To the OP- I will hear none of it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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