Week 6: Chiefs at Bills (+5): Monday 5pm on Fox

[YoloinOhio]

26 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said:

All this last minute game day/time shifting is crazy, but imagine if fans were being allowed and had purchased tickets.  That would add another dimension to the three ringed circus.

I think they could probably go until at least Tuesday on the call to flex. No fans at bills game or rams/niners  

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

There's much talk about the NFL punishing the Titans and it being severe.  Normally the NFL likes to take it's time with any punishments to "try" to get it right, particularly if it's going to be severe.

 

But in this case, they need to act quickly if it's meant to be a deterrent to other teams to break the rules.  No sense the league announcing the penalty against Tenn week 17, it needs to be very soon.   Will see what/when it's announced.

[The Dean]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think they could probably go until at least Tuesday on the call to flex. No fans at bills game or rams/niners  

 

 

Here's a hypothetical question. Would/should the NFL be more concerned/less likely to move a game with less lead time, if the stadium was allowing around 10,000 fans? While I really don't like saying "the fans shouldn't matter", given the present circumstances I think that might be the best line of thinking. The NFL should do what's safest for the teams and try to be as fair as they can be. They can't be perfect.  But giving the benefit to teams who are now allowing some fans would seem to add more confusion and bias to the mix. Just my opinion.

2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

There's much talk about the NFL punishing the Titans and it being severe.  Normally the NFL likes to take it's time with any punishments to "try" to get it right, particularly if it's going to be severe.

 

But in this case, they need to act quickly if it's meant to be a deterrent to other teams to break the rules.  No sense the league announcing the penalty against Tenn week 17, it needs to be very soon.   Will see what/when it's announced.

 

They seem to have let it be known the punishements can be severe. I'm guessing they want to get their evidence collected and ducks in a row before coming down hard. I'm also guessing the league has let teams know what kinds of punishments might be levied. Unless they are considering a forfeit, what's the rush really?

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

4 minutes ago, The Dean said:

They seem to have let it be known the punishements can be severe. I'm guessing they want to get their evidence collected and ducks in a row before coming down hard. I'm also guessing the league has let teams know what kinds of punishments might be levied. Unless they are considering a forfeit, what's the rush really?

 

True, I agree they need to get all the facts.  However I can see every GM standing up in front of their team of players and coaches and telling everyone, "This is what the league stated they will do for future infractions".   But can see players/coaches having an attitude of "yeah OK sounds good"  Whereas if they actually saw punishment doled out it becomes more believable.   So far the team you could argue that the team that has been punished the most by all this are the Steelers and Bills with the rescheduling, so why pay much attention to what the league tells me when they turn around and screw us in return.

 

Until something is actually done it's just lip service.

[NI Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Mango said:

The S&C coach in KC is concerning. He probably has a ton of hands on contact with the team. Hopefully they can get ahead of it. 

Any chance he is Mahomes' personal S&C coach?

 

Or is that just wishful thinking?!

[par73]

I still feel the Tennessee game should have been postponed to a later date. If I were a player, I would not want to go there now and play a football game.

[Scott7975]

11 minutes ago, par73 said:

I still feel the Tennessee game should have been postponed to a later date. If I were a player, I would not want to go there now and play a football game.

The problem is logistics.  Its only week 5.  There is only so much room to move.  I wouldnt want to either though.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, Mango said:

The S&C coach in KC is concerning. He probably has a ton of hands on contact with the team. Hopefully they can get ahead of it. 

 

He's supposed to be wearing a mask, face shield, gloves etc and disinfecting everything. Someone elsewhere said it was a coach with high player contact who spread it initially in Tenn. so if not, yeah concerning.

 

1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

There's much talk about the NFL punishing the Titans and it being severe.  Normally the NFL likes to take it's time with any punishments to "try" to get it right, particularly if it's going to be severe.

 

But in this case, they need to act quickly if it's meant to be a deterrent to other teams to break the rules.  No sense the league announcing the penalty against Tenn week 17, it needs to be very soon.   Will see what/when it's announced.

 

I agree with you.  If the NFL wants this to have a cautionary effect and help save the season, they need to act.

[Paulus]

This is wholly unfair to the Bills' organization. Glad Tennessee is being rewarded with advantage for violating league "rules."

 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Read an article that some of the Titans feel they are being portrayed unfairly and what's being stated in the press isn't accurate.  Tannerhill was quoted for one.

 

Hate to play a team that feels they've been wronged and it's "us against the world" mentality.  They can sometimes rise to unexpected heights.  Reminds me of the game the Bills had canceled, then moved to Detroit against the Jets because of the snowstorm in November about 4 years ago.  The Bills were hardly able to practice all week, not many gave them a chance, and they blew the Jets out  (poor Rex!)

 

Trying to understand too if players are placed on the Covid List is that different than the IR list?  Thought that was why they changed the rules this year to only needing to be on IR for 3 weeks because of Covid.  Don't understand then how any of the Tenn players would be eligible to come back and play this week if they have to be on IR for 3 weeks minimum??

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Read an article that some of the Titans feel they are being portrayed unfairly and what's being stated in the press isn't accurate.  Tannerhill was quoted for one.

 

Hate to play a team that feels they've been wronged and it's "us against the world" mentality.  They can sometimes rise to unexpected heights.  Reminds me of the game the Bills had canceled, then moved to Detroit against the Jets because of the snowstorm in November about 4 years ago.  The Bills were hardly able to practice all week, not many gave them a chance, and they blew the Jets out  (poor Rex!)

 

Trying to understand too if players are placed on the Covid List is that different than the IR list?  Thought that was why they changed the rules this year to only needing to be on IR for 3 weeks because of Covid.  Don't understand then how any of the Tenn players would be eligible to come back and play this week if they have to be on IR for 3 weeks minimum??

 

It's not the normal IR list it's a special Covid list.  Spotrac puts these players in the NFI (Non-Football Injury) designation list.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/cap/

[Hebert19]

What are chances bills play Sunday or Monday night against chiefs. 

[The Dean]

18 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

What are chances bills play Sunday or Monday night against chiefs. 

 

 

Well, without further info I'd say it's 3-1 they play on Sunday. Sunday has three possibilities: Early afternoon, Late afternoon or Night (possible doubleheader, but still Night). There is only Monday Night (possible doubleheader, but still night)

 

We can speculate and pontificate about when it SHOULD be, but I don't think that means jack squat.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

36 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Read an article that some of the Titans feel they are being portrayed unfairly and what's being stated in the press isn't accurate.  Tannerhill was quoted for one.

 

Hate to play a team that feels they've been wronged and it's "us against the world" mentality.  They can sometimes rise to unexpected heights.  Reminds me of the game the Bills had canceled, then moved to Detroit against the Jets because of the snowstorm in November about 4 years ago.  The Bills were hardly able to practice all week, not many gave them a chance, and they blew the Jets out  (poor Rex!)

 

Trying to understand too if players are placed on the Covid List is that different than the IR list?  Thought that was why they changed the rules this year to only needing to be on IR for 3 weeks because of Covid.  Don't understand then how any of the Tenn players would be eligible to come back and play this week if they have to be on IR for 3 weeks minimum??

Glad to see others are coming around to see how much of a buzzsaw this game might be.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Hebert19 said:

What are chances bills play Sunday or Monday night against chiefs. 

Should be a no brainer.  I don’t think they announce it until the result of the titan game.  My prediction, if the bills are undefeated, it’s prime time.  If we lose to the titans, it’s a day game

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Read an article that some of the Titans feel they are being portrayed unfairly and what's being stated in the press isn't accurate.  Tannerhill was quoted for one.

 

Hate to play a team that feels they've been wronged and it's "us against the world" mentality.  They can sometimes rise to unexpected heights.  Reminds me of the game the Bills had canceled, then moved to Detroit against the Jets because of the snowstorm in November about 4 years ago.  The Bills were hardly able to practice all week, not many gave them a chance, and they blew the Jets out  (poor Rex!)

 

Trying to understand too if players are placed on the Covid List is that different than the IR list?  Thought that was why they changed the rules this year to only needing to be on IR for 3 weeks because of Covid.  Don't understand then how any of the Tenn players would be eligible to come back and play this week if they have to be on IR for 3 weeks minimum??

 

It is just possible that the Bills feel they've been jerked around too, and could come out hot.

 

I don't see the Titans being dissed off the way the Bills were in that Bills-Jets game.  -1 or something, isn't it?

[YoloinOhio]

32 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Should be a no brainer.  I don’t think they announce it until the result of the titan game.  My prediction, if the bills are undefeated, it’s prime time.  If we lose to the titans, it’s a day game

I could see that. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

It's not the normal IR list it's a special Covid list.  Spotrac puts these players in the NFI (Non-Football Injury) designation list.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/cap/

 

OK so then they can come off the list anytime they are no longer in a contagious state, no 3 week minimum.  That explains it! Thanks!

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Should be a no brainer.  I don’t think they announce it until the result of the titan game.  My prediction, if the bills are undefeated, it’s prime time.  If we lose to the titans, it’s a day game

 

Currently the Fox 4:25 game is Green Bay at Tampa, Brady Rodgers, Green Bay being one of the top five most popular teams in league.  Sunday night is Rams at San Fran, can't see them dumping that one either.  Even Monday Dallas is one anther team they won't preempt and Tuesday is game 1 of the World Series on Fox.  Networks care more about showing the game with the best ratings more than which might be the better game.  If any of them were dog games, then yes could see them switch but not a marginally better game for another more popular one.

 

Likely at best will be a second 4:25 game that is only shown in the KC and Western NY markets.  Basically the same as last week when they played 4:25, most of the country was getting NE- KC, small amount got the Raiders Bills game.  Only once the KC game was canceled, then most of the country got Bills game. 

 

 

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Currently the Fox 4:25 game is Green Bay at Tampa, Brady Rodgers, Green Bay being one of the top five most popular teams in league.  Sunday night is Rams at San Fran, can't see them dumping that one either.  Even Monday Dallas is one anther team they won't preempt and Tuesday is game 1 of the World Series on Fox.  Networks care more about showing the game with the best ratings more than which might be the better game.  If any of them were dog games, then yes could see them switch but not a marginally better game for another more popular one.

 

Likely at best will be a second 4:25 game that is only shown in the KC and Western NY markets.  Basically the same as last week when they played 4:25, most of the country was getting NE- KC, small amount got the Raiders Bills game.  Only once the KC game was canceled, then most of the country got Bills game. 

 

 

if it’s 5-0 vs 5-0 and SB mvp mahomes vs stallion, I could see them creating another slot like they did for the Patriots this week. Gonna have to wait and see

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

if it’s 5-0 vs 5-0 and SB mvp mahomes vs stallion, I could see them creating another slot like they did for the Patriots this week. Gonna have to wait and see

 

That would be the only other viable option, make it a Monday night doubleheader, likely both would need to be on ESPN so they'd go along with it.

 

Officially didn't they state the game will: "Be played later this weekend"? That does leave that option open. 

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

That would be the only other viable option, make it a Monday night doubleheader, likely both would need to be on ESPN so they'd go along with it.

 

Officially didn't they state the game will: "Be played later this weekend"? That does leave that option open. 

Pretty sure the game will be on Fox, but don’t know for sure.  I don’t think they would give up what is one of the best games of the year

[Hapless Bills Fan]

31 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

OK so then they can come off the list anytime they are no longer in a contagious state, no 3 week minimum.  That explains it! Thanks!

 

Well, the definition of "no longer in a contagious state" has some details around it, they have to pass cardiac screening, and they have to undergo a progressive exercise program if they were symptomatic.  Titans had a guy (OLman) just activated who has been on the list since September 6th!!! 

 

But yes, there's no 3 game (not week) minimum.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Pretty sure the game will be on Fox, but don’t know for sure.  I don’t think they would give up what is one of the best games of the year

 

Yes was suppose to be on Fox, but can't see them repeating like the did last Monday where the ESPN was delayed around 40 minutes and the KC NE game was being played at the same time.  I'm sure the ratings for the ESPN game weren't the greatest going against the other game though did involved Green Bay so that may have helped some.  Fox would be fine with it I'm sure, but can't imagine ESPN agreeing.  I'm thinking that's why this weeks NE Denver game which originally was on CBS was moved to Monday and is now an ESPN doubleheader.  I'm guessing they said no, so they gave it to ESPN unless that was part of the deal, they gave ESPN the game this week in exchange for next week playing second fiddle.  Or the Bills KC game on Fox starts at 5:00 eastern so over before Monday Night Football

[The Dean]

1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Currently the Fox 4:25 game is Green Bay at Tampa, Brady Rodgers, Green Bay being one of the top five most popular teams in league.  Sunday night is Rams at San Fran, can't see them dumping that one either.  Even Monday Dallas is one anther team they won't preempt and Tuesday is game 1 of the World Series on Fox.  Networks care more about showing the game with the best ratings more than which might be the better game.  If any of them were dog games, then yes could see them switch but not a marginally better game for another more popular one.

 

Likely at best will be a second 4:25 game that is only shown in the KC and Western NY markets.  Basically the same as last week when they played 4:25, most of the country was getting NE- KC, small amount got the Raiders Bills game.  Only once the KC game was canceled, then most of the country got Bills game. 

 

 

 

 

It's certainly possible to do two Sunday Night or Monday Nighty games. ESPN/ABC won't be thrilled about it, and some compensation will probably be due. And i don't think they can do this all year (though personally I think it's great). But if they want to get it done, they will get it done. Everybody is going to have to make a few concessions this year, I think.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Jerome007]

Do we really care about the TV markets? I just want the Bills to play and to WIN. If players are mad a the NFL, it'd be some on both teams so no effect on the outcome in any shape or form. It just sucks KC will have a full week to prepare but not the Bills but, 2020 is weird so...

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Bill Lewes]

titan coach positive

 

[RiotAct]

Just now, Bill Lewes said:

titan coach positive

 

wait, what?!?  Since when

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

wait, what?!?  Since when

Today 

[promtbr88]

To be clear, a member of the Titans coaching staff. Not the Head coach.

 

 

[Robert James]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/titans-shut-down-facility-once-again-after-staff-member-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

[Yav]

Reported on the Bills app via Twitter. 
https://twitter.com/TDavenport_NFL/status/1315266869742444545?s=20

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Bills chiefs to Monday most likely 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Bills chiefs to Monday most likely 

 

No Bills will be playing Chiefs Thursday if the Titans game gets postponed...Bills have been preparing 2 gameplans...such BS...Titans are the ones who screwed up big time and we are the ones being punished for it...

Edited October 11, 2020 by matter2003

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Just now, matter2003 said:

 

No Bills will be playing Chiefs Thursday if the Titans game gets postponed...

No. Bills chiefs will be Monday after bills titans Tuesday 

[Big Turk]

Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

No. Bills chiefs will be Monday after bills titans Tuesday 

 

Maybe...if Titans game gets played...which looks pretty doubtful right now.

[RaoulDuke79]

Oh great.  Monday evening football. Guess I'll tune in at halftime when I get home from work.