Final Vote—All States, Progress in counting

[Process]

1 minute ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Hahahaha, there is only one side that was for mail in voting, and it wasn't the Republicans.  You are really clueless about fraud and illegal voting, aren't you?

 

This is farrrrrrrrrr from over.  This will be in courts for years.

It's certainly not looking that way.

[Tiberius]

Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

What, specifically, do the courts need to decide?

Why Democrats are allowed to vote 

[Back2Buff]

Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

What, specifically, do the courts need to decide?

 

The votes will need to be checked.  Votes will need to be certified.  Tapes from polling locations will need to be investigated.  There is already countless examples of fraud going on with video examples on twitter. 

[TBBills]

2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

There may have been some fraud, but no way enough to sway an election.

 

I just wish we could figure out a secure way to do electronic voting.

 

Drawing circles on a piece of paper and then counting said peices of paper just seems so archaic...

Yea the republicans tried to commit voter fraud but it wasn't enough for them to sway the election.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 minute ago, Back2Buff said:

 

The votes will need to be checked.  Votes will need to be certified.  Tapes from polling locations will need to be investigated.  There is already countless examples of fraud going on with video examples on twitter. 

 

So... nothing specific.

 

Biden wins MI and WI and it's over.

Edited November 4, 2020 by wAcKy ZeBrA

[TBBills]

2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I mean, not going to get into a whole climate change debate, but it is possible increased CO2 can lead to a greening and ice age diversion. I am on board with moving away from fossil fuels pragmatically, just not via politically driven climate modeling at the detriment to economic mobility of millions of Americans. We need to chill and not buy into the fear mongering from both sides.

The only thing about climate change that was politically driven was Trump saying it didn't exist, and "you guys" all went along with his politically driven message. 

 

The real message is science and reflected by scientist around the world.

Edited November 4, 2020 by TBBills

[TBBills]

1 minute ago, Gene1973 said:

I mean you're allowed to have your fun, your side won. You will likely have a good day today, and a great 4 years as you seem to really enjoy this lol.

 

Hopefully we all have a great day on Sunday, however skeptical I nay be.

So funny how you have changed in less that 24 hours. Where was this poster before the election? Before the election you just attacked people.

Edited November 4, 2020 by TBBills

[Process]

The trump speech last night was very telling. Sure he's an idiot and may have declared fraud/victory no matter what, but it's more likely he did it because he knew he was going to lose.

[Mark80]

15 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

The votes will need to be checked.  Votes will need to be certified.  Tapes from polling locations will need to be investigated.  There is already countless examples of fraud going on with video examples on twitter. 

 

The courts are going to be looking at the constitutionality of adjusting voting rules for the pandemic.  That's the issue.  It has nothing to do with fraud (which has NEVER proven to be a significant  issue.  EVER.  And is not now either).  Love clueless posters who just spew miss-information so convincingly.

 

Oh...but there is a video of it on twitter....Yeah, seems like a legit source of truth.  And even if, it would take 10s of thousands of fraudulent votes to swing anything.  A grand scheme of it, that is.  Not a few twitter videos that may or may not be real.

Edited November 4, 2020 by Mark80

[Process]

What a call by this guy two days ago

 

 

[TBBills]

7 minutes ago, Process said:

What a call by this guy two days ago

 

 

Wow this guy knows his Trump

[Turk71]

Wisconsin Michigan Arizona and Nevada all look like Biden wins to me at this point. He leads in 3 of them and the votes still uncounted in those states are from mostly heavy Democratic areas. He only trails in Michigan by a few thousand where most the votes still to be counted (~300,000) are in Wayne County(Detroit) where he is getting 67% of the vote. That's all he needs for 270. Pennsylvania Georgia NC won't even matter.

[Process]

So what is the path to trump victory? It doesn't look like there is one. But odds are only -300 Biden now. Seems like free money.

[SectionC3]

5 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

Wisconsin Michigan Arizona and Nevada all look like Biden wins to me at this point. He leads in 3 of them and the votes still uncounted in those states are from mostly heavy Democratic areas. He only trails in Michigan by a few thousand where most the votes still to be counted (~300,000) are in Wayne County(Detroit) where he is getting 67% of the vote. That's all he needs for 270. Pennsylvania Georgia NC won't even matter.

 

I’m worried about Nevada.  Outstanding votes are from Clark County.  But are they “early” or “day of” votes?  Nevada is tight.  Agree on the other stuff; Michigan is going blue, WI is probably going blue; PA probably will tip.  GA is a decent possibility.  I’m not confident in NC; did the math there and it’s an uphill climb.  

2 minutes ago, Process said:

So what is the path to trump victory? It doesn't look like there is one. But odds are only -300 Biden now. Seems like free money.

 

Muck up the post office in PA, hold NC and GA, and pray for a miracle in WI and maybe NV.  It’s not done yet.  

 

FWIW, if I’m on Team Biden I am in court now in PA getting an order requiring the post office to move all ballots to boards of election before any other piece of mail is touched.  Priority #1 for that campaign.  

[Back2Buff]

36 minutes ago, Mark80 said:

 

The courts are going to be looking at the constitutionality of adjusting voting rules for the pandemic.  That's the issue.  It has nothing to do with fraud (which has NEVER proven to be a significant  issue.  EVER.  And is not now either).  Love clueless posters who just spew miss-information so convincingly.

 

Oh...but there is a video of it on twitter....Yeah, seems like a legit source of truth.  And even if, it would take 10s of thousands of fraudulent votes to swing anything.  A grand scheme of it, that is.  Not a few twitter videos that may or may not be real.

 

You do realize that the adjusting of the mail in voting rules is leading to the fraud?!?  You're the pretty clueless one.

 

Tens of thousands of mail in fraud is really not that hard at all.

[TBBills]

Just now, Back2Buff said:

 

You do realize that the adjusting of the mail in voting rules is leading to the fraud?!?  You're the pretty clueless one.

 

Tens of thousands of mail in fraud is really not that hard at all.

Tinfoil hat?

[SectionC3]

Just now, Back2Buff said:

 

You do realize that the adjusting of the mail in voting rules is leading to the fraud?!?  You're the pretty clueless one.

 

Tens of thousands of mail in fraud is really not that hard at all.

 

Could you please translate this to something understandable?  Also, if you can identify any of this “fraud” of which you speak it would be appreciated.  To my understanding the only attempt at fraud is the Trumpian effort to foreclose counting of valid ballots in PA.  

[Back2Buff]

Just now, TBBills said:

Tinfoil hat?

 

Do you have a job??  Is this really what you do all day??  Seriously dude, do something productive with your life.

[TBBills]

1 minute ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Do you have a job??  Is this really what you do all day??  Seriously dude, do something productive with your life.

You're posting here same as me and you're asking I have a job? You are the on going full on conspiracy and yet you ask if I have a job? Hahahah yea my day off.

Edited November 4, 2020 by TBBills

[nkreed]

14 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

You do realize that the adjusting of the mail in voting rules is leading to the fraud?!?  You're the pretty clueless one.

 

Tens of thousands of mail in fraud is really not that hard at all.

Fraud? In what way? When did States rights become open season from the Trump administration?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Can you imagine what the next 4 years will be like if Trump loses by mail in voting? 

[Tommy Callahan]

Michigan dumps 201,035 mail in votes and not ONE is for Trump. Just not buying that at all. Canvassing board needs to be on top of that.

[Haze_21]

I've voted mail in for 12 years, don't get the hang up people have on it.

[Bob in Mich]

Trump has yet to even uncap his Sharpie.  

 

I would be awfully hesitant to crow about a Biden win until Trump concedes.  Trump has proven he will try to bend reality if he needs to.

 

Also, where is Bill Barr?  I honestly expected him to step forward and claim Trump may be right about voting irregularities, giving legitimacy to questioning the results.  Guess we will see

[Turk71]

37 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

I’m worried about Nevada.  Outstanding votes are from Clark County.  But are they “early” or “day of” votes?  Nevada is tight.  Agree on the other stuff; Michigan is going blue, WI is probably going blue; PA probably will tip.  GA is a decent possibility.  I’m not confident in NC; did the math there and it’s an uphill climb

The only votes left to count in NV are the mail in ballots that arrived today and those that arrive this week postmarked by election day.

[DCOrange]

39 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

I’m worried about Nevada.  Outstanding votes are from Clark County.  But are they “early” or “day of” votes?  Nevada is tight.  Agree on the other stuff; Michigan is going blue, WI is probably going blue; PA probably will tip.  GA is a decent possibility.  I’m not confident in NC; did the math there and it’s an uphill climb.  

 

Muck up the post office in PA, hold NC and GA, and pray for a miracle in WI and maybe NV.  It’s not done yet.  

 

FWIW, if I’m on Team Biden I am in court now in PA getting an order requiring the post office to move all ballots to boards of election before any other piece of mail is touched.  Priority #1 for that campaign.  

Not sure if anyone on the next page answered you, but the outstanding votes are later-arriving early votes. So whether it leans red or blue could theoretically go either way, but the general belief is Biden will end up winning there.

 

If Biden does hang on to Nevada, he hits 270 regardless of what happens in PA, NC, and GA.

 

We'll almost certainly have recounts in at least 2 or 3 states but the odds are in Biden's favor at this point though the margins are still very narrow.

[BuffaloHokie13]

15 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Michigan dumps 201,035 mail in votes and not ONE is for Trump. Just not buying that at all. Canvassing board needs to be on top of that.

 

12 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

It is a bit suspect if they were 100%for Biden. You won't see that in PA. Trump should have almost 500k mail ins in PA.

This update capture shows 138,340 votes going 100% for Biden. Only way I can see this being legitimate is if they are counting votes by candidate, which would mean we are likely to see a similar 100% jump for Trump and Jorgensen. 

[Process]

Odds shifting quickly and significantly in favor of biden.. it's over .

 

Gg dems. As a republican but someone who thinks trump is an idiot and an embarrassment to this country him losing but republicans keeping the senate is probably the best case scenario.

[TheElectricCompany]

I was hoping for a better performance from the Libs!  3.2% in 2016, 1.1% today.

 

[SectionC3]

13 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

Not sure if anyone on the next page answered you, but the outstanding votes are later-arriving early votes. So whether it leans red or blue could theoretically go either way, but the general belief is Biden will end up winning there.

 

If Biden does hang on to Nevada, he hits 270 regardless of what happens in PA, NC, and GA.

 

We'll almost certainly have recounts in at least 2 or 3 states but the odds are in Biden's favor at this point though the margins are still very narrow.

 

Good to know.  Well done.  Probably won’t tip the scales in NV, especially where it’s coming from.  

[Turk71]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Can you imagine what the next 4 years will be like if Trump loses by mail in voting? 

 

14 minutes ago, Haze_21 said:

I've voted mail in for 12 years, don't get the hang up people have on it.

The entire state of Oregon votes by mail every election and has for over 20 years. There is no evidence of fraud and the elections go very smoothly. We don't stand in line for hours to exercise our right to participate in electing our government. The disgusting efforts to disenfranchise voters in states like Texas and Georgia is un-American and blatantly racist. Take away all the inner city polling places so people have to line up around the block and wait hours to vote, if they can even manage to get to a polling place. Disgusting, a political strategy based on preventing people from voting instead of a platform that inspires support from more people.

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

 

The entire state of Oregon votes by mail every election and has for over 20 years. There is no evidence of fraud and the elections go very smoothly. We don't stand in line for hours to exercise our right to participate in electing our government. The disgusting efforts to disenfranchise voters in states like Texas and Georgia is un-American and blatantly racist. Take away all the inner city polling places so people have to line up around the block and wait hours to vote, if they can even manage to get to a polling place. Disgusting, a political strategy based on preventing people from voting instead of a platform that inspires support from more people.

 

Couldn’t agree with this more.  Voter lines are a paradox: a nice reflection of democracy, and a terrible sign of voter suppression. 

[SectionC3]

8 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I voted yesterday in Niagara county and didn't have to wait at all.

How is standing in line voter suppression? I don't get it. I stand in line for a lot of things and never feel suppressed...

 

Requiring one to stand in line for several hours to cast a ballot is suppression.  Self-evident.  

[Penfield45]

So when will Trump supporters finally admit we are living under a fascist state ? 

 

is it when he will go to the supreme court and demand the counting of votes to be halted and declare himself a winner? 

 

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 minute ago, Penfield45 said:

is it when he will go to the supreme court and demand the counting of votes to be halted and declare himself a winner? 

 

No - that was last night

[nkreed]

12 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I voted yesterday in Niagara county and didn't have to wait at all.

Yes because there are enough polling sites to allow for this. Despite your specific citation to Turk, you blatantly forget to include the rationale for the long lines.

 

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How is standing in line voter suppression? I don't get it. I stand in line for a lot of things and never feel suppressed...

Except when you are told "it's easy to vote" and then the lines are long. And for what personal gain? Not everyone is deep into politics and won't take the time to vote if they need to wait in line. You will stand in line for some sort of personal gain, something you'd get. Not the same.at all.

Edited November 4, 2020 by nkreed
Can't spell

[Penfield45]

25 minutes ago, Process said:

Odds shifting quickly and significantly in favor of biden.. it's over .

 

Gg dems. As a republican but someone who thinks trump is an idiot and an embarrassment to this country him losing but republicans keeping the senate is probably the best case scenario.

 

yup this is all but over for Trump. We will see what he does as a reaction and if he calls his supporters to take arms and flood the streets. 

 

as a democrat who thinks biden harris ticket was terrible this election was embarrassing for the DNC. if not for covid trump likely wins this in a landslide. 

[aristocrat]

1 minute ago, Penfield45 said:

 

yup this is all but over for Trump. We will see what he does as a reaction and if he calls his supporters to take arms and flood the streets. 

 

as a democrat who thinks biden harris ticket was terrible this election was embarrassing for the DNC. if not for covid trump likely wins this in a landslide. 

 

you actually believe the republicans are going to take to the streets? 

[Penfield45]

Just now, Gene1973 said:

I don't see it that way. Is waiting in my Dr's office for 4 hrs suppression of health services? c'mon man...

 

LOL

 

the fact some people don't think voter suppression from the republican party is literally occurring in every single state in the south is hilarious 

 

Texas has been suppressing votes for the last 30 years 

Just now, aristocrat said:

 

you actually believe the republicans are going to take to the streets? 

 

umm. did you not see the maga supporters block busy highways before election or flood polling locations during early voting to intimidate voters? 

 

 

[jrober38]

2 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

 

yup this is all but over for Trump. We will see what he does as a reaction and if he calls his supporters to take arms and flood the streets. 

 

as a democrat who thinks biden harris ticket was terrible this election was embarrassing for the DNC. if not for covid trump likely wins this in a landslide. 

 

The DNC completely missed the mark again.

 

Ramming Biden down everyone's throat because they thought he'd do well with independents proved to once again be a mistake, just not as bad as the one they made 4 years ago. 

 

They can't get out of their own way.