Final Vote—All States, Progress in counting

[Roundybout]

 

How much you wanna bet these are the same putzes that scream "law and order" at BLM protests?

[Backintheday544]

3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I think what will kickstart this civil war is one party trying to turn away from a democratic republic and reshape gov't into something completely different. Not sure how you can expect that to be peaceful. Many more riots ahead I think...

That’s why the Republicans need to stop doing that.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, Process said:

I'll say this. Joe biden is going to be another one and done. He is an awful candidate and in clear decline health wise. There is also a really good chance he doesn't finish his first term and we are stuck with Kamala who is obviously even worse. 

 

No one wants joe biden as president. He inspires nobody. He's a career politician who has accomplished nothing. Hell try to raise taxes. He supports terrorist groups like BLM. 

 

Joe Biden didn't win this race, the republicans lost it with trump. There's also 0 percent chance they lose if covid didnt happen. The county was doing great before hand. 

 

Republicans will win back the presidency in '24 with a candidate who is not a bat ***** crazy lunatic. 

Well, maybe, but we know Trump failed the one crisis he faced. He could have taken on leadership of the fight to save lives, but instead he told people to go out and ignore the science which has killed people. 

 

 

He failed 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, snafu said:

 

ABC Site took Arizona off "Biden".

 

 

I hear you, when it is said and done, Wisconsin will stay blue, but this year can't compare to 2016, just based on logistics of early and mail-in votes. 20,000 is a lot to overcome.

 

 

 

I predicted that most of the 2016 map would hold except for PA, MI, and WI just because of how close the margins were last time and Biden's a tiny bit better of a candidate than Hillary (I was 50/50 with Pennsylvania because of his stupid fracking comment at the debate).  I didn't see Arizona coming.  At all (assuming it holds up).  What changed in Arizona?

[Backintheday544]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Well, maybe, but we know Trump failed the one crisis he faced. He could have taken on leadership of the fight to save lives, but instead he told people to go out and ignore the science which has killed people. 

 

 

He failed 

I can’t stand the argument Trump would have won without COVID.

 

Almost every President has some kind of disaster/bad thing happen. The job of leaders is to lead. When you vote for a President, you should consider something like a pandemic can happen.

 

Bush went through 9/11 and Katrina and was a leader there.

[Tiberius]

Just now, Backintheday544 said:

I can’t stand the argument Trump would have won without COVID.

 

Almost every President has some kind of disaster/bad thing happen. The job of leaders is to lead. When you vote for a President, you should consider something like a pandemic can happen.

 

Bush went through 9/11 and Katrina and was a leader there.

Really, couldn’t really see Trump handling ANY crisis 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

I can’t stand the argument Trump would have won without COVID.

 

Almost every President has some kind of disaster/bad thing happen. The job of leaders is to lead. When you vote for a President, you should consider something like a pandemic can happen.

 

Bush went through 9/11 and Katrina and was a leader there.

I mean it could of been the exact opposite if he'd handled Covid with rationality and competence he would of been very tough to beat.

[Tiberius]

Joe Biden has won absentee ballots counted in Pennsylvania by an overwhelming margin so far, according to data from the Secretary of State early Wednesday. If he carried the remaining absentee ballots by a similar margin, he would win the state.

 

Votes in Pennsylvania

 

REMAINING VOTE,

IF VOTING PATTERNS CONTINUE

COUNTED VOTE

In

person

Biden

50.3%

In person

By mail

By mail

By

mail

By

mail

48.5%

Trump

In person

In person

As of 5 a.m. Eastern

President Trump leads by nearly 700,000 votes in Pennsylvania as of 5 a.m. on Wednesday, and Mr. Biden’s chances depend on whether he can win a large percentage of the more than 1.4 million absentee ballots that remain to be counted.

So far, Mr. Biden has won absentee voters in Pennsylvania, 78 percent to 21 percent, according to the Secretary of State’s office. The results comport with the findings of pre-election surveys and an analysis of absentee ballot requests, which all indicated that Mr. Biden held an overwhelming lead among absentee voters.

If Mr. Biden won the more than 1.4 million absentee votes by such a large margin, he would net around 800,000 votes — enough to overcome his deficit statewide.

Of course, there’s no guarantee that Mr. Biden will win the remaining absentee vote by quite so much. But so far, his standing in the tabulated absentee vote has almost exactly matched our pre-election projections for the absentee vote by county, based on New York Times/Siena polling and data from L2, a political data vendor.

 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/upshot/pennsylvania-election-results-ballots.html

[dgrochester55]

Things were going well for Trump until late last night when he sent out AJ Klein to protect his leads

[jrober38]

18 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I predicted that most of the 2016 map would hold except for PA, MI, and WI just because of how close the margins were last time and Biden's a tiny bit better of a candidate than Hillary (I was 50/50 with Pennsylvania because of his stupid fracking comment at the debate).  I didn't see Arizona coming.  At all (assuming it holds up).  What changed in Arizona?

 

In 2020 old white people like Trump less than they did in 2016. 

[Turk71]

28 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I predicted that most of the 2016 map would hold except for PA, MI, and WI just because of how close the margins were last time and Biden's a tiny bit better of a candidate than Hillary (I was 50/50 with Pennsylvania because of his stupid fracking comment at the debate).  I didn't see Arizona coming.  At all (assuming it holds up).  What changed in Arizona?

Demographic is getting younger and people have been moving in from elsewhere I suspect.

[aristocrat]

10 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

In 2020 old white people like Trump less than they did in 2016. 

but a lot more minorities did 

[Backintheday544]

18 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

I think the lack of hatred toward someone like Hillary was part of it ad well.

 

Kamala has work to do, has a good start though

I think there was less complacency by the Dems. Dems thought 2016 was locked up and didn’t vote or voted third party and that didn’t happen this time.

[jrober38]

23 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

but a lot more minorities did 

 

In Florida.

 

Not sure that rings true elsewhere. 

[aristocrat]

3 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

In Florida.

 

Not sure that rings true elsewhere. 

it is actually . Most since 1960 or something 

Edited November 4, 2020 by aristocrat

[Buftex]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

I predicted that most of the 2016 map would hold except for PA, MI, and WI just because of how close the margins were last time and Biden's a tiny bit better of a candidate than Hillary (I was 50/50 with Pennsylvania because of his stupid fracking comment at the debate).  I didn't see Arizona coming.  At all (assuming it holds up).  What changed in Arizona?

I would imagine shitting all over John McCain, even long after he was dead, didn't go over real well with a lot of people in Arizona.  Some people still have a sense of decency. Not only was it disrespectful, it served as a perfect illustration of what a small man Trump is..

Edited November 5, 2020 by Buftex

[snafu]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

I predicted that most of the 2016 map would hold except for PA, MI, and WI just because of how close the margins were last time and Biden's a tiny bit better of a candidate than Hillary (I was 50/50 with Pennsylvania because of his stupid fracking comment at the debate).  I didn't see Arizona coming.  At all (assuming it holds up).  What changed in Arizona?

 

Unknown. It is very odd.  Must be a demographic shift. Calis who moved out (for whatever reason)?

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

5 minutes ago, Buftex said:

I would imagine shitting all over John McCain, even long after he was dead, didn't go over real well with a lot of people in Arizona.  Some people still have a sense of decency. Not only was it disrespectful, it served as a perfect illustration of what a small man Trump is..

No question 

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, jrober38 said:

 

I think Georgia winds up for Biden.

 

I've heard there are still like 200k votes outstanding and they're in areas the Dems should win by 50 points. They should pretty easily make up the current gap of 68k votes if those numbers hold, which they should because they're almost all from Atlanta. 

Really looks good for Biden. It almost looks like NC could get a late surge, too. But I’m probably just being greedy there 

[jrober38]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Really looks good for Biden. It almost looks like NC could get a late surge, too. But I’m probably just being greedy there 

 

NC would be HUGE because a Senate seat likely flips too.

 

Trump's Georgia lead is down to 47k votes with still over 100k to go and recent results have Dems picking up 80+% of the votes that have been coming in from the urban areas. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by jrober38

[LeGOATski]

46 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

it is actually . Most since 1960 or something 

Percentage? Or just straight total? 

[SirAndrew]

5 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

Unknown. It is very odd.  Must be a demographic shift. Calis who moved out (for whatever reason)?

 

Maybe more Hispanic voters showed up in 2020 AZ as well. I hasn’t really seen those numbers out yet compared to 2016. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by SirAndrew

[Backintheday544]

Kanye has conceded defeat. 60,000 votes

[Warcodered]

6 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

Kanye has conceded defeat. 60,000 votes

[jrober38]

Trump now suing to stop ballots from being counted in Georgia.

 

Probably means they're going to lose there. 

 

They seem beyond desperate at this point. It's actually extremely pathetic. 

[Warcodered]

Clearly that coin flip had magical powers.

[jkeerie]

3 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:

I’m a big Corey Booker fan! He’s got star power!

I was hoping Hillary would have picked him as her running mate in 2016.  She might have fared better.  Her choice of Tim Kaine was uninspired.  I always look at the running mate choice.  If a candidate selects someone bland who can't upstage them...that's a negative for me.  See Bush 1 and his choice of Dan Quayle.  Another uninspired choice.

[Backintheday544]

Just now, jkeerie said:

I was hoping Hillary would have picked him as her running mate in 2016.  She might have fared better.  Her choice of Tim Kaine was uninspired.  I always look at the running mate choice.  If a candidate selects someone bland who can't upstage them...that's a negative for me.  See Bush 1 and his choice of Dan Quayle.  Another uninspired choice.

The one thing I fear with Booker is that he’s just dropped so much momentum. As mayor with him being so hands on and it on the Daily Show he had a really good position nationally. Now that he’s a Senator, he gets a little blurred into the background.

[SoCal Deek]

You people are really over the top with this stuff.  This election, like the last one, was not a mandate for much of anything. We have a completely divided nation...right down the middle.  You could hold the 2020 election all over against next week and get a different result. It is just that close.  Now, that doesn't mean the winning side isn't going to taking their victory as a mandate....they will for sure.

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, Backintheday544 said:

The one thing I fear with Booker is that he’s just dropped so much momentum. As mayor with him being so hands on and it on the Daily Show he had a really good position nationally. Now that he’s a Senator, he gets a little blurred into the background.

Well...being 1 of 100 and not in a leadership position...that's easy to do.  If you don't pay attention to committee hearings or see them on talk show interviews, you don't know who's who.

[Doc Brown]

30 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

Trump now suing to stop ballots from being counted in Georgia.

 

Probably means they're going to lose there. 

 

They seem beyond desperate at this point. It's actually extremely pathetic. 

I'm guessing he has no problem with them continuing to count in Arizona.

[Backintheday544]

16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You people are really over the top with this stuff.  This election, like the last one, was not a mandate for much of anything. We have a completely divided nation...right down the middle.  You could hold the 2020 election all over against next week and get a different result. It is just that close.  Now, that doesn't mean the winning side isn't going to taking their victory as a mandate....they will for sure.

President Biden is up 3.3 million votes (and growing) and will win the electoral college. This wasn’t split right down the middle. Right now 3.3 million more people wanted Biden and he won the electoral college. That’s a mandate.

 

Funny how the Trumpers were saying they were the silent majority. Guess that ideas thrown out the window now.

[jrober38]

15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I'm guessing he has no problem with them continuing to count in Arizona.

 

Trump has no problem with that.

 

He mostly wants to stop black people from voting in Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Atlanta. 

[ALF]

Now that Biden has likely won , he needs at least 50 D in the Senate . As a Independent I would never rub it in to R just come together as a Country.

[jrober38]

10 minutes ago, ALF said:

Now that Biden has likely won , he needs at least 50 D in the Senate . As a Independent I would never rub it in to R just come together as a Country.

 

Likely looking at two run offs in Georgia on January 5th.

[Penfield45]

Look at these idiots 

 

and these people call themselves Americans LOL. 
 

They are so brainwashed it’s embarrassing 

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, Penfield45 said:

Look at these idiots 

 

and these people call themselves Americans LOL. 
 

They are so brainwashed it’s embarrassing 

 

It's a cult.

 

They scream independence but are totally subservient to their Right Wing Masters. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, jrober38 said:

Trump now suing to stop ballots from being counted in Georgia.

 

Probably means they're going to lose there. 

 

They seem beyond desperate at this point. It's actually extremely pathetic. 

 

It doesn't even rank in the top 10 dumbest things that has happened during his administration, but taking to Twitter to argue Democrats are somehow cheating their way to a win is pretty out there. The good news is most of the country isn't going to buy it, even his own supporters are mostly going to accept the results. I figure he is trying to use that narrative as a spring board for the conservative media empire that he clearly wants to start as soon as he leaves the presidency.

[jrober38]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

It doesn't even rank in the top 10 dumbest things that has happened during his administration, but taking to Twitter to argue Democrats are somehow cheating their way to a win is pretty out there. The good news is most of the country isn't going to buy it, even his own supporters are mostly going to accept the results. I figure he is trying to use that narrative as a spring board for the conservative media empire that he clearly wants to start as soon as he leaves the presidency.

 

His supporters (Breitbart readers, Hannity/Carlson listeners) are convinced that he's being cheated out of a victory. 

[Backintheday544]

17 minutes ago, Penfield45 said:

Look at these idiots 

 

and these people call themselves Americans LOL. 
 

They are so brainwashed it’s embarrassing 

I wish there was a counter protest to shout “Why?” After each stop that count.