Greg S Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-travis-kelce-contract-extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Dawson Knox looking at this contract 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Yesterday’s news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, DJB said: Dawson Knox looking at this contract I mean.. Kelce is 4x 1st or 2nd team all-pro. Dawson knox dropped like 11 passes last year. Hes looking at tyler eifert money currently unless he takes MASSIVE steps forward. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 50 minutes ago, DJB said: Dawson Knox looking at this contract Maybe if he had been looking at the ball instead he wouldn't have kept dropping passes 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I'm tying to figure out where KC is getting this cap space. If the cap does decrease KC will be hurt the most by it and might have to release Mahomes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 When I saw a headline that he was redefining the tight end market I thought it was gonna be 100 million total. This contract seems like a normal deal for a guy who averages 90 catches a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, DJB said: Dawson Knox looking at this contract Hope so, Maybe it will motivate him to stop dropping balls, start being a 4 time all pro and win the Superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Kittle just got $15M/yr, average. And Kelce gets $14.25/yr ? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 55 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I'm tying to figure out where KC is getting this cap space. If the cap does decrease KC will be hurt the most by it and might have to release Mahomes. The Kelce extension doesn't initiate for 2 years since hes still under contract. Most of the otehr deals are like that too. But they'll have to do some maneuvering down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, Poleshifter said: Kittle just got $15M/yr, average. And Kelce gets $14.25/yr ? Wow. That sounds right for those guys for what they bring to the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 54 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I'm tying to figure out where KC is getting this cap space. If the cap does decrease KC will be hurt the most by it and might have to release Mahomes. A few years ago, KC was in cap purgatory. They got there by giving too much up front money and over estimating the growth of the cap. They learned a tough lesson. It looks like the Kelce contract doesn't have a big spend up front. With the structure of the Mahomes contract and his importance to the franchise, they would literally cut every other player on their team before they would ever touch Mahomes. When you look at the players that they have drafted, they are preparing for life without some of their veterans with expensive contracts or big future pay demands. Tyreek Hill will be looking for big money and the presence of Hardman on the roster will give KC the option to cut a good deal or let him walk. They will be forced to let some veterans go, like they did with Morse but they seem to have low cost replacements in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, DJB said: Dawson Knox looking at this contract Yowzer, I had no idea Dawson was this old without his helmet on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: That sounds right for those guys for what they bring to the field. It actually sounds like they are underpaid a little factoring in how rare an elite TE is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: A few years ago, KC was in cap purgatory. They got there by giving too much up front money and over estimating the growth of the cap. They learned a tough lesson. It looks like the Kelce contract doesn't have a big spend up front. With the structure of the Mahomes contract and his importance to the franchise, they would literally cut every other player on their team before they would ever touch Mahomes. When you look at the players that they have drafted, they are preparing for life without some of their veterans with expensive contracts or big future pay demands. Tyreek Hill will be looking for big money and the presence of Hardman on the roster will give KC the option to cut a good deal or let him walk. They will be forced to let some veterans go, like they did with Morse but they seem to have low cost replacements in place. Tyreek is under contract for 3 more seasons. Veach is big on giving players extensions that put them at top of the market by current salary standards but will be below scale by the time the cap hits come due. The salary cap is like the tax code. There’s a way around just about everything if you’re clever enough to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Billl said: Tyreek is under contract for 3 more seasons. Veach is big on giving players extensions that put them at top of the market by current salary standards but will be below scale by the time the cap hits come due. The salary cap is like the tax code. There’s a way around just about everything if you’re clever enough to figure it out. I don't think it has anything to do with "getting around" anything. KC has decided how it wants to form it's team. They want 9-10 high priced players and after that a bunch of rookie contracts and low level players. A lot of teams take that path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, DJB said: Dawson Knox looking at this contract Dawson Knox should be more worried about still being in the league through his rookie contract. He's got a long way to go. Edited August 14, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Dawson Knox should be more worried about still being in the league through his rookie contract. He's got a long way to go. Did Kelce hit the ground running all pro? (Im asking.....I dont follow him)_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Bargain for the Chiefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 6 hours ago, DJB said: Dawson Knox looking at this contract hopefully he is also watching the film that earned them their deals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Greg S said: https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-travis-kelce-contract-extension At what point is KC going to have salary cap problems? It seems like they are giving everyone monster contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Did Kelce hit the ground running all pro? (Im asking.....I dont follow him)_ More or less. Missed his whole rookie year, but after that it was clear he was going to be very good. I'm not trying to drag Knox here but it shouldn't be a shock to anyone, him included, if he's out of the league in a couple years. So few tight ends with high potential make it. and while he had some really nice plays last year, we should not in any way count on him to become a pro bowler at this stage. I really hope he does though, because I think we all love his style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 TE has got to be one of the most difficult positions to project in terms of the draft. There’s really very little correlation between draft slot and NFL success. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of a great one since Tony Gonzalez who was drafted in the first round. Gates: undrafted Hernandez: 4th round Gronkowski: 2nd round Ertz: 2nd round Kelce: 3rd round Kittle: 5th round Who am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 16 hours ago, JohnNord said: At what point is KC going to have salary cap problems? It seems like they are giving everyone monster contracts If you look at their roster makeup they are giving big contracts to about 9-10 guys. Their roster is devoid of "middle of the road" 4-8 million dollar contracts. If you want to see here is how they currently are looking for next year click the link below. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap/2021/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: If you look at their roster makeup they are giving big contracts to about 9-10 guys. Their roster is devoid of "middle of the road" 4-8 million dollar contracts. If you want to see here is how they currently are looking for next year click the link below. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap/2021/ At some point though isn’t it going to catch up to them? It seems like a lot of players signed contracts that were very team friendly in the first year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, JohnNord said: At some point though isn’t it going to catch up to them? It seems like a lot of players signed contracts that were very team friendly in the first year Maybe, maybe not. Lot's of teams have used this roster makeup model before. It's a continuous balancing act. My main point was to show how they can sign all these big contracts right now. They will be tight against the cap next year and we'll see how they handle their FA's. I'm pretty sure Sammy Watkins is not signing another big contract with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Kansas City has some bad contracts come off the books after the 2020 season. They’re in great shape. Not much cap room but enough to supplement their superstars with draft picks and cheaper free agents at less critical positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Kind of what has been said, I’m very hopeful for Knox right now, but even talking him in the same breath as Kittle it Kelce is insane. First of all his name doesn’t start with a K, but secondly he dropped more balls last year the the 2 of them combined for the last 2 years. He made some really nice plays and he has the physical tools to be elite, BUT so have a lot of other guys. A great athlete does not guarantee great football success. He’s full of potential and was sure fun to watch on the run with the ball, he could be special, but Karlos Williams looked to be star bound and we see how that ended, so we have to temper our expectations a lot a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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