YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) We have the cap space... I don’t think he’s close to as good obviously but he does have some value in this scheme Dre Kirkpatrick? Aqib Talib? Edited August 5, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 He isn't in the same universe as Tre. He is at his best inside as a slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Why hasn't Ryan been signed yet? What's the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) i like the idea of Logan Ryan. Hopefully Tre stays. Edited August 5, 2020 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, MJS said: Why hasn't Ryan been signed yet? What's the deal? $$$$ Same reason Clowney hasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEra Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, MJS said: Why hasn't Ryan been signed yet? What's the deal? Couldn’t tell you, but most likely because he’s asking for too much money or his only offer is from the jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 if anyone says logan ryan i will lose my ***** 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He isn't in the same universe as Tre. He is at his best inside as a slot. As is Taron Johnson. Any other names you can think of? I don’t foresee trading for anyone, since it is only for one year, but I guess you could look at it as more long term since Norman will probably be gone next year and will need replaced. should have kept Kevin Johnson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: if anyone says logan ryan i will lose my ***** Well, the whole thread has been about Logan Ryan so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: if anyone says logan ryan i will lose my ***** Do you not like him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Well, the whole thread has been about Logan Ryan so... Unfortunate Just now, MJS said: Do you not like him? If White played in the slot I might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Josh Norman or Levi Wallace. 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: As is Taron Johnson. Any other names you can think of? I don’t foresee trading for anyone, since it is only for one year, but I guess you could look at it as more long term since Norman will probably be gone next year and will need replaced. should have kept Kevin Johnson Definitely should’ve kept Johnson in hindsight. Prior to losing EJ and Tre possibly opting out, the move made more sense. Tre, Norman, Levi and EJ is a solid unit of corners that can play the boundary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: If White played in the slot I might Who do you suggest then? He isn't strictly a nickle corner. He plays all over the field - including outside. Norman also has flexibility. And I have no doubt McDermott would make it work as a system. And looking at what's available, i'd take Ryan as a strictly outside corner over any strictly outside CB that's out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Who do you suggest then? He isn't strictly a nickle corner. He plays all over the field - including outside. Norman also has flexibility. And I have no doubt McDermott would make it work as a system. And looking at what's available, i'd take Ryan as a strictly outside corner over any strictly outside CB that's out there. I think Logan Ryan is crazy overrated. He is a decent DB in the slot and that's basically it imo I would take any vet in the Talib/Carr/Kirkpatrick variety before him, I think Logan Ryan as CB1 would be a disaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 Can siran Neal play corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I think Logan Ryan is crazy overrated. He is a decent DB in the slot and that's basically it imo I would take any vet in the Talib/Carr/Kirkpatrick variety before him, I think Logan Ryan as CB1 would be a disaster I agree. His numbers last year when they did use him more on the outside were pretty dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzonzo Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He isn't in the same universe as Tre. He is at his best inside as a slot. does Tre Says someting about opts out or this is all about speculation???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, GoBills808 said: I would take any vet in the Talib/Carr/Kirkpatrick variety before him, I think Logan Ryan as CB1 would be a disaster Talib is 34 years old, coming off an injury, and has played a total of 13 games in the past two seasons. Carr is also 34 years old. Kirkpatrick is coming off hyper extending his knee just last November. Let's be honest, if White opts out, there's no one who will be able to step into that true CB1 role. All we can do is put the best combination of flexible CB's as we can out there and trust in our DB mastermind of a coach to make it work. Hell, maybe sign Ryan AND Carr. But I can't wrap my head around the idea that signing Ryan would be a bad move for a lacking Corner situation. Edited August 6, 2020 by BillsFanForever19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gonzonzo said: does Tre Says someting about opts out or this is all about speculation???????????? Tre has said he is considering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gonzonzo said: does Tre Says someting about opts out or this is all about speculation???????????? He’s considering opting out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: We have the cap space... I don’t think he’s close to as good obviously but he does have some value in this scheme Dre Kirkpatrick? Aqib Talib? UGHhhhh!! I really want to see Tre and Josh Norman play together... it's like when we had two prime corners in Greer and Mcgee and when one came back the other would be injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzonzo Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Tre has said he is considering it. oh...sh...... thanks for de answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Talib is 34 years old, coming off an injury, and has played a total of 13 games in the past two seasons. Carr is also 34 years old. Kirkpatrick is coming off hyper extending his knee just late November. Let's be honest, if White opts out, there's no one who will be able to step into that true CB1 role. All we can do is put the best combination of flexible CB's as we can out there. Hell, maybe sign Rogers AND Carr. But I can't wrap my head around the idea that signing Ryan would be the wrong move. Try these stats from 2019 and see if you still feel that way: • He surrendered the most receptions (80) of any cornerback in the NFL last season, a full 10 more than second-place Justin Coleman of Detroit. • He surrendered the most receiving yards (940) — and the most yards after catch (426) — of any cornerback in the league. • He surrendered six touchdown passes during the regular season, tied for eighth-most in the league among corners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: UGHhhhh!! I really want to see Tre and Josh Norman play together... it's like when we had two prime corners in Greer and Mcgee and when one came back the other would be injured 2020 continues to be the absolute worst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I'm looking forward to getting past the opt out deadline. Want to know who we have for the season. If White opts out, that would REALLY SUCK!! My favorite Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: 2020 continues to be the absolute worst If he does opt out can he at least play goalie for the Sabres?!?! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) If White opts out they probably go with - norman, wallace, johnson with jackson, king behind them. Neal would function as the big nickel/depth NB. Ike Brown and cam lewis probably on the PS - you can put one on the 55 man roster if you feel like say norman or wallace has a lingering issue and you might need depth for a specific week. I feel like they signed king as insurance should white not play after gaines opted out, since I assume White's been in open communication with Beane. They may still sign someone else, but I think they'll see how some of this plays out. Edited August 5, 2020 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Gonzonzo said: does Tre Says someting about opts out or this is all about speculation???????????? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, GoBills808 said: I think Logan Ryan is crazy overrated. He is a decent DB in the slot and that's basically it imo I would take any vet in the Talib/Carr/Kirkpatrick variety before him, I think Logan Ryan as CB1 would be a disaster I'm not intricately familiar with his play but he seemed to be damn good whenever I saw him play for the titans and he played outside in base formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 If he opts out try to bring Clowney in and make the pass rush so fierce that the CB play will automatically improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Logan Ryan is an excellent fit for the defense. Hopefully the Bills contacted him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 hours ago, dneveu said: I feel like they signed king as insurance should white not play after gaines opted out, since I assume White's been in open communication with Beane. They signed King to replace E.J. Gaines spot when he opted out. King is primarily a Special Teams player and had nothing to do with White. If White opts out, they'll have to bring in someone with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I didnt read every comment, but are their any players that could be legitimate trade options? EJ Gaines came via trade the first time around. Not crazy Madden stuff, but actual trades that could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I think Levi and Norman in a strict zone will do ok. Levi gets picked apart in man and his looks are inflated because people don't want to b thrown to the. Norman has a lot to prove so he may show something left in the tank. Is it a fierce 1 2 combo but I feel like we could do much worse Any news on Dane Jackson? Is he clear yet. Need slot depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Agent 91 said: I think Levi and Norman in a strict zone will do ok. Levi gets picked apart in man and his looks are inflated because people don't want to b thrown to the. Norman has a lot to prove so he may show something left in the tank. Is it a fierce 1 2 combo but I feel like we could do much worse Any news on Dane Jackson? Is he clear yet. Need slot depth Dane is still on Covid list edit: he was activated today Edited August 6, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Try these stats from 2019 and see if you still feel that way: • He surrendered the most receptions (80) of any cornerback in the NFL last season, a full 10 more than second-place Justin Coleman of Detroit. • He surrendered the most receiving yards (940) — and the most yards after catch (426) — of any cornerback in the league. • He surrendered six touchdown passes during the regular season, tied for eighth-most in the league among corners. For that mess just stick to what you got add depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I'd probably rather roll with Norman and Wallace outside than signing Ryan to play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDiehard Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 FREE AGENTS 1. Aqib Talib 2. Trevor Williams TRADE 1. Desmond King (LAC) last year on rookie contract 2. Jimmy Smith (BAL) FA in 2021 3. Chidobe Awuzie (DAL) last year on rookie contract 4. Mike Hilton (PIT) last year on rookie contract 5. Willie Jackson (CIN) last year on rookie contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: if anyone says logan ryan i will lose my ***** Logan Ryan, Logan Ryan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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