Murphy Out at One Bills Live - Brown and Glab to Replace

[BillsPride12]

The Maddy Glab thing is tough because as someone who is not a fan of hers I don't want it to come across like it has anything to do with being bitter about her looks(I know the previous posts weren't directed to me) and I know she has a college background in sports journalism and is a sports fan I'm not disputing that but in our market all of our sports reporters and analysts have always been locals to the WNY region for the most part(ok so I know Howard grew up in Queens and Jeremy is from Syracuse).  She just seems like such a fish out of water in this market to me.  I know Murph and Tasker aren't the greatest listen in the world but Murphy is the Bills play by play guy and been with the organization for over 35 years.  Hell Tasker played on the Super Bowl teams that are still beloved in Buffalo.  They have their place.  It's just weird to me listening to an Outsider who clearly has no background with Buffalo Bills football.  Has nothing to do with her being a young cute female.  In fact I actually feel really bad feeling the way I do because she also seems like a very nice and sweet girl too.  Just from my perspective regardless of having a degree I don't see her as somebody very qualified for the role.  

[without a drought]

No one is tougher to listen to than Tasker.

[May Day 10]

22 minutes ago, without a drought said:

No one is tougher to listen to than Tasker.

 

Have you ever heard Bulldog do a show solo when Schopp is on vacation?  

 

It's a struggle 

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said:

The Maddy Glab thing is tough because as someone who is not a fan of hers I don't want it to come across like it has anything to do with being bitter about her looks(I know the previous posts weren't directed to me) and I know she has a college background in sports journalism and is a sports fan I'm not disputing that but in our market all of our sports reporters and analysts have always been locals to the WNY region for the most part(ok so I know Howard grew up in Queens and Jeremy is from Syracuse).  She just seems like such a fish out of water in this market to me.  I know Murph and Tasker aren't the greatest listen in the world but Murphy is the Bills play by play guy and been with the organization for over 35 years.  Hell Tasker played on the Super Bowl teams that are still beloved in Buffalo.  They have their place.  It's just weird to me listening to an Outsider who clearly has no background with Buffalo Bills football.  Has nothing to do with her being a young cute female.  In fact I actually feel really bad feeling the way I do because she also seems like a very nice and sweet girl too.  Just from my perspective regardless of having a degree I don't see her as somebody very qualified for the role.  

 

 

 

That is fine nothing wrong with your opinion - everyone has to start out someplace and you are correct she has little local knowledge, but then again we are also covered by guys like Marcel and Rodak before that, Matthew Fairburn, Jerry Sullivan, along with other radio guys in Buffalo and Rochester - they all came from out of the area.  Some lasted a long time and have been fixtures (for good or bad) for 40+ years, while others are new and have fit in well (thanks Marcel).

 

You can not like her, you can think she is terrible at he job - there are many ways to express yourself - the hard part to me is some people just automatically stating that basically she is everything wrong with women in sports because she was only hired because she was female and cute.  
 

Her qualifications /degree/previous experience got her in the door - her talent or perhaps lack of talent - we will see - is what will get her either removed or keep her around.  

 

 

 

 

[BillsPride12]

29 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

 

 

That is fine nothing wrong with your opinion - everyone has to start out someplace and you are correct she has little local knowledge, but then again we are also covered by guys like Marcel and Rodak before that, Matthew Fairburn, Jerry Sullivan, along with other radio guys in Buffalo and Rochester - they all came from out of the area.  Some lasted a long time and have been fixtures (for good or bad) for 40+ years, while others are new and have fit in well (thanks Marcel).

 

You can not like her, you can think she is terrible at he job - there are many ways to express yourself - the hard part to me is some people just automatically stating that basically she is everything wrong with women in sports because she was only hired because she was female and cute.  
 

Her qualifications /degree/previous experience got her in the door - her talent or perhaps lack of talent - we will see - is what will get her either removed or keep her around.  

 

 

 

 

For the record I hope she finds success and her career takes off.  She really does seem like a nice person.  I know that Buffalo isn't her dream job either.  Maybe this will get her feet wet and give her the experience she needs to get a job covering Missouri or the Bears 

[Dragoon]

3 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

This would have been a fine take.  I have no issue if you dislike her or think it will be bad as long as you have a reason viable reason.

 

Your initial take was she is awful and only got the job because she is cute and a female and I am just pointing out that she got the job and is eminently qualified to do the job.  Whether she is good or sucks will be the next major part of her growth.  This is a huge step up from what she has been doing and as I said - her first few go around s were hard to listen to.  She deferred way to much to Tasker and they had no flow.  I thought she got better as she got more experience and I will defer until I can hear here more to say whether there is hope or no hope in a radio host gig.

So, I’m sorry but there’s a lot of truth to the narrative of people employing cute girls to talk sports. That’s not unfair to suggest that’s a thing. We all know it is. And it’s unfortunate because there are a lot of quality female sports reporters. I love Mary Kay Cabot. She’s one of the best beat reporters in the business. 
 

As far as the person at hand, look — every segment I’ve heard from her is gimmicky and not the substance I want on a sports show. If she can talk ball like Mary Kay Cabot, cool. But from what I’ve heard of her it’s made me change stations. 
 

Also, my comment was made more in displeasure of seeing Murph out. I never thought it would morph into this. I apologize if I’ve given offense. Go Bills. 

[Rochesterfan]

5 minutes ago, Dragoon said:

So, I’m sorry but there’s a lot of truth to the narrative of people employing cute girls to talk sports. That’s not unfair to suggest that’s a thing. We all know it is. And it’s unfortunate because there are a lot of quality female sports reporters. I love Mary Kay Cabot. She’s one of the best beat reporters in the business. 
 

As far as the person at hand, look — every segment I’ve heard from her is gimmicky and not the substance I want on a sports show. If she can talk ball like Mary Kay Cabot, cool. But from what I’ve heard of her it’s made me change stations. 
 

Also, my comment was made more in displeasure of seeing Murph out. I never thought it would morph into this. I apologize if I’ve given offense. Go Bills. 

 

Mary Kay Cabot is an excellent person for her to aspire to - if that is what she wants, but just be aware there is a pretty big segment of the audience around Cleveland that think Mary Kay Cabot is terrible at her job also.  She is a reporter with a ton of sources (fewer with the new Cleveland regime), but her job is to get the details and break news reports from around Cleveland and the NFL.

 

Maddy Glab was hired to do Buffalo Bills/Sabres media content.  Her job is to put together puff pieces on the players and post them on Instagram and Facebook live.  Chris Brown is the primary mouthpiece for the Bills and Maddy’s job is to provide fun and insightful facts and stories surrounding the two teams (Bills and Sabres). 
 

From what I have heard - Maddy knows football and understands the game just fine - her pieces on the pregame show make sense, but she is not in the same line of work as Mary Kay is.  It took Mary Kay - 20+ years to develop into the reporter she is.  There is zero similarities between Maddy and Mary Kay at this time.  At the present time with her current job title - I would expect most of what you get from Maddy to be gimmicky that is her role.  
 

Just my $0.02.

[Bubba Gump]

On 5/21/2020 at 3:41 PM, Bad Things said:

I know that he has his distractors on this board, but I always like John Murphy and am very sad to see him go.

 

The last season or two with Tasker has been brutal though. 

 

Chris Brown?  No thanks.

Although he can provide good info, I find that he projects this "know it all" attitude that is hard for me to swallow. 

 

Brown knows he stuff, but he also likes to prove people wrong and can be a hard listen at times. He does think his ***** don't stink when it comes to Bills knowledge. I'd rather listen to Sal anytime.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Bubba Gump

[Madbillsfan]

Murphy wasn’t great but Glab is terrible. It’s like listening to a teenager pretend to know she knows sports. While I could tolerate Murph and Tasker, their replacements are unacceptable and I guess I’ll be going back to Jim Rome. I’m a truck driver and this is gonna suck balls. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

There seemed a time when sports news was five minutes on the television and radio broadcasts, and a vast majority of these broadcasters had prewritten copy, and good voices.  Now we have a saturation of media sources, endless hours of programming (hours to fill when 5 minutes would cover the story adequately), well educated hosts who haven't always a polished voice or delivery, and often an interactive fan base that skews discussions off topic.  'One Bills Live' not to your liking?  Try listening to that two hours of 'Da Insdigadors' beforehand.  Oy!  'One Bills Live' works well when a segment is interesting with a guest; when it relies on callers or staff chatting it is mostly a train wreck.  'Too much of a good thing' is not necessarily better.  John Murphy's 'One on One Sports' on WBEN years ago was generally interesting, it covered a variety of topics.  Twenty years later, three hours of very directed subject matter that toes the company line is not nearly as enlightening.

[Negan]

One step closer to being replaced as the play by play announcer, probably within 3 years would be my guess.  

 

Fine with me, he is no VAN

[Mr. WEO]

It would be reasonable to ask if there is a male of the same age and lack of NFL media experience, in their first year in the building, who has been handed and NFL franchise's flagship radio show co-host spot.

 

In the NFL as a whole, women (with few notable exceptions) are relegated to "sideline reporting", where they ask cliched questions to guys running off the field who give predictable answers that we learn nothing from.  The game treats them like hostesses.  But they can say to all:  "we have plenty of female journalists!"

 

It's a cynical inclusion effort by the league/networks.  It's shameless window dressing.  The Pegulas are doing the same with Glab at this point.  It doesn't make sense in a business sense or a personal sense to put this person in this spot, as neither she, nor the show needs the abuse both will receive for this bizarre choice.  

[Reneth Gilne]

I listened for 3 weeks straight when corona fake virus started.   Murph was rediculous...constantly repeating live from home   not the kaleida health center or whatever the sponsor was...hed say that ad naseum..like anyone cared.  Hed start the show talking about what he saw on netflix for an hour then make distracting noises while the guests talked...constantly...clueless about zoom or skype or whatever they used. Everyday it continued...his distracting noises....then he had big time guests like Bean after the draft and didnt ask a single good question...like ie "who would you have picked had you still had 22 or were you trying to trade up for ______? "  Just dumb wasteful questions. Tasker at least has first hand championship experience and stories....hes actually smart but people rip him. I think murph was the idiot. Maybe he was smart once and just got old. Oh and he doesnt want instant replay anymore.  Why? Im glad hes gone i couldnt stand his ultra  casual approach to the "show" anymore.

[RiotAct]

what kind of distracting noises?   Hose whinnies?  Farting sounds???

[Lurker]

55 minutes ago, Reneth Gilne said:

 gone 

 

And after just two posts...

 

 

    

Edited May 25, 2020 by Lurker

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

It’s too bad that too many teams are covered by journalists who are either paid by said team or are fans of said team.

 

the best way that it should work woudl be if you have a team of journalists in print, internet and tv/radio who were all out of Towners

 

 But alas that will never happen.

[Jrb1979]

I know I won't be tuning in. Can't Brown's voice for one and two I can't stand sports talk that's all sunshine and roses. Just like a lot of Bills fans, they never criticize the Bills. They can do no wrong. 

[Don Otreply]

On 5/24/2020 at 11:41 AM, Mr. WEO said:

It would be reasonable to ask if there is a male of the same age and lack of NFL media experience, in their first year in the building, who has been handed and NFL franchise's flagship radio show co-host spot.

 

In the NFL as a whole, women (with few notable exceptions) are relegated to "sideline reporting", where they ask cliched questions to guys running off the field who give predictable answers that we learn nothing from.  The game treats them like hostesses.  But they can say to all:  "we have plenty of female journalists!"

 

It's a cynical inclusion effort by the league/networks.  It's shameless window dressing.  The Pegulas are doing the same with Glab at this point.  It doesn't make sense in a business sense or a personal sense to put this person in this spot, as neither she, nor the show needs the abuse both will receive for this bizarre choice.  

Being that football, to include the Bills already have as much of the male demographic as their ever going to get, this “bizarre” choice is not even remotely bizarre.

 

The only direction left for demographic/money gain is with women, and guys like Murphy aren’t a draw, women want to see women in these positions.  PSE made a correct hire for what they are trying to gain, most men are oblivious to what women want, and this threads responses by and large show as much.

 

MG is frankly perfect for their intentions to get more young ish women into the sport, thusly spending their dollars on the Bills, it really is that simple. 
 

Go Bills!!!

[Buffalo716]

On 5/23/2020 at 8:14 PM, BillsPride12 said:

The Maddy Glab thing is tough because as someone who is not a fan of hers I don't want it to come across like it has anything to do with being bitter about her looks(I know the previous posts weren't directed to me) and I know she has a college background in sports journalism and is a sports fan I'm not disputing that but in our market all of our sports reporters and analysts have always been locals to the WNY region for the most part(ok so I know Howard grew up in Queens and Jeremy is from Syracuse).  She just seems like such a fish out of water in this market to me.  I know Murph and Tasker aren't the greatest listen in the world but Murphy is the Bills play by play guy and been with the organization for over 35 years.  Hell Tasker played on the Super Bowl teams that are still beloved in Buffalo.  They have their place.  It's just weird to me listening to an Outsider who clearly has no background with Buffalo Bills football.  Has nothing to do with her being a young cute female.  In fact I actually feel really bad feeling the way I do because she also seems like a very nice and sweet girl too.  Just from my perspective regardless of having a degree I don't see her as somebody very qualified for the role.  

Chris Brown is not a buffalonian either

[BillsPride12]

35 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Chris Brown is not a buffalonian either

I'm not a huge fan of his either 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Being that football, to include the Bills already have as much of the male demographic as their ever going to get, this “bizarre” choice is not even remotely bizarre.

 

The only direction left for demographic/money gain is with women, and guys like Murphy aren’t a draw, women want to see women in these positions.  PSE made a correct hire for what they are trying to gain, most men are oblivious to what women want, and this threads responses by and large show as much.

 

MG is frankly perfect for their intentions to get more young ish women into the sport, thusly spending their dollars on the Bills, it really is that simple. 
 

Go Bills!!!

 

 

I think you are insulting the intelligence of the vast majority of women who may be listening to that radio show.  Like most of us, hearing what they hear, they can conclude that this novice is a tough listen and hasn't earned a franchise flagship radio show co-host job.  They would reasonably conclude that Pegulas didn't hire her for her experience but for her looks.

 

It's a bizarre choice if their goal is  to appeal to hardcore female fans listening (casual fans aren't listening to that show--especially young ones) and who likely know far more about the Bills than Glab does.  

[wppete]

On 5/21/2020 at 3:45 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Glab’s voice is really, really annoying.  Sounds like a cat torturing contest.

Yeah It’s going to be very difficult to listen to. Probably quit listening now. Was hoping for a better selection. 

[Don Otreply]

11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

I think you are insulting the intelligence of the vast majority of women who may be listening to that radio show.  Like most of us, hearing what they hear, they can conclude that this novice is a tough listen and hasn't earned a franchise flagship radio show co-host job.  They would reasonably conclude that Pegulas didn't hire her for her experience but for her looks.

 

It's a bizarre choice if their goal is  to appeal to hardcore female fans listening (casual fans aren't listening to that show--especially young ones) and who likely know far more about the Bills than Glab does.  

They are not going after hard core women fans, they already have those, they are going after the more normal fan that is female. They are attempting to grow the fan base, and that is done by capturing the casual women fan. Being that they already achieved that in the male demographic. 

[Mr. WEO]

11 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

They are not going after hard core women fans, they already have those, they are going after the more normal fan that is female. They are attempting to grow the fan base, and that is done by capturing the casual women fan. Being that they already achieved that in the male demographic. 

 
Casual fans aren’t listening to that radio show.  Not even “casual woman fans” or the “more normal fan that is female”.

[Don Otreply]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 
Casual fans aren’t listening to that radio show.  Not even “casual woman fans” or the “more normal fan that is female”.

Its a slow process WEO, and casual fans actually do listen to these sort of shows, not religiously like football nerds do, but they do. I think the hard core football nerds are a bit out of touch with the regular football fan that looks at games as another reason to hang out with friends, and check it out. Its a fashion thing for many. Remember the majority of people who call themselves fans rarely go to the stadium to watch a game. 

Edited May 26, 2020 by Don Otreply

[Don Otreply]

16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 
Casual fans aren’t listening to that radio show.  Not even “casual woman fans” or the “more normal fan that is female”.

Okay, we disagree. 

[Mr. WEO]

8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Its a slow process WEO, and casual fans actually do listen to these sort of shows, not religiously like football nerds do, but they do. I think the hard core football nerds are a bit out of touch with the regular football fan that looks at games as another reason to hang out with friends, and check it out. Its a fashion thing for many. Remember the majority of people who call themselves fans rarely go to the stadium to watch a game. 

I disagree that fans who watch games...just to hang out are ever listening to OBD.  They would have no reason or interest.

[Don Otreply]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

I disagree that fans who watch games...just to hang out are ever listening to OBD.  They would have no reason or interest.

Word of mouth, “ hey they got a female show host over on that Bills site, check it out” ... 

 We disagree, and that’s fine. 

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, Don Otreply said:

Word of mouth, “ hey they got a female show host over on that Bills site, check it out” ... 

 We disagree, and that’s fine. 

“checked it out.  Changed channel in minutes.  Wtf IS that??”

[Clutchwarfare]

On 5/23/2020 at 10:19 AM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

In what world is she cute?

Of course Maddy is no Kay Adams, but hey what can we realistically expect from a local homer show?

I like her and it's perfectly fine if some folks don't agree. To each, their own.

GO BILLS

On 5/22/2020 at 6:28 PM, LeGOATski said:

Really?

 

Give Murph highlights, a skirt, and heels and I'm sure he looks great, too...

I don't think "foxy" is too far of a stretch.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

So shrill. A shame. Sal and Brown would have been a perfect combo.

[Clutchwarfare]

I used to love Erin Coscarelli. Perfect combo of football knowledge and good looks.

[elijah]

11 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

So shrill. A shame. Sal and Brown would have been a perfect combo.

Only two legitimate talents in the Bills Beat imo

 

Erik Turner at Cover 1 is ridiculously smart and puts in the work but haven’t seen/heard him in a radio setting 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

On 5/24/2020 at 6:35 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

There seemed a time when sports news was five minutes on the television and radio broadcasts, and a vast majority of these broadcasters had prewritten copy, and good voices.  Now we have a saturation of media sources, endless hours of programming (hours to fill when 5 minutes would cover the story adequately), well educated hosts who haven't always a polished voice or delivery, and often an interactive fan base that skews discussions off topic.  'One Bills Live' not to your liking?  Try listening to that two hours of 'Da Insdigadors' beforehand.  Oy!  'One Bills Live' works well when a segment is interesting with a guest; when it relies on callers or staff chatting it is mostly a train wreck.  'Too much of a good thing' is not necessarily better.  John Murphy's 'One on One Sports' on WBEN years ago was generally interesting, it covered a variety of topics.  Twenty years later, three hours of very directed subject matter that toes the company line is not nearly as enlightening.

 

This is a good point. 

 

I think across the board now the voices in sports are getting tired because these people have been in the same positions for 20+ years now. 

 

For instance, Dan Patrick. Every day it's the same cadence to his show, "yeah Pauly", "yeah Fritzy", "yeah McLovin" as point by point is dribbled out to the audience.  

 

I've tuned into Colin since he joined ESPN in 2004, but his sports opinions are the same: two cities in America matter: LA and Miami, and fill in with Brady/LeBron/Tiger/Cowboys/Westbrook and John Wall bashing. 

 

We turned on the TV yesterday morning and Get Up! was on ESPN. They had Kendrick Perkins and Mike Greenberg breaking down sports "GOATs" - guys do you have anything else to talk about? 

 

What irritates me locally is Howard Simon talking about how he's never had peanut butter, or a strawberry, or how out of shape he is and how he isn't going to exercise. I feel like he wakes up, doesn't shower or brush his teeth, and just does the show with no preparation. 

 

During this pandemic, Bulldog has been theatrical about how much danger he's in, and he acts like it's become his right to do the show from his house going forward. Like Simon, trending towards the laziest version of the show we can put together.  

 

I like Schopp and Jeremy White because they push the topics on the show. Without them you are talking about Owen's hockey practice, or sitting around the house. Now Schopp does get off topic - talking about Tootsie, his Fantasy Football, obsession with old games on Youtube, but without him, you get no critical thinking on local teams, no statistical references to standards in modern sports. 

 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

 

They had Kendrick Perkins and Mike Greenberg breaking down sports "GOATs" - guys do you have anything else to talk about?
 

 

 

 

Uh, not exactly.

 

Also at the idea that Schopp is involved in anything resembling critical thinking.

 

 

 

Edited May 26, 2020 by Joe in Winslow

[Straight Hucklebuck]

10 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Uh, not exactly.

 

Also at the idea that Schopp is involved in anything resembling critical thinking.

 

 

 

?

 

Schopp brings up Corsi puck possession statistics, he was on the Bills reliance on physical run game and special teams/defense as the rest of the league ditched 3 yards and a cloud of dust, he challenges the notion of locker room chemistry and work ethic as meaningful differentiators from team to team, he challenged the Bills thought process on tearing down the roster, trading away say a CB, then drafting a replacement in Round One.

 

He is more more attuned to changes in how sports organizations make decisions than Bulldog is.  He drives the show. Bulldog is not going to bring any original thought. He sits back and reacts to what is said around him. As others have noted in this thread, Bulldog hosting when Schopp is off is a chore to listen to. 

[Reneth Gilne]

On 5/24/2020 at 7:48 PM, Lurker said:

 

And after just two posts...

 

 

    

Cool im guessing your one of those guys who drives around in your car alone wearing a mask? Admit it.   No scientific clue.....thanks for your post.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Listening to the beginning of the show today, Tasker remarked that it was Ms. Glab's birthday recently.  Not missing a beat (or her critics' remarks), she mentioned it was great to have celebrated her 16th birthday.  The girl at least has a sense of humour, and probably reads TBD-TSW.  ?

Edited June 1, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[BigdaddyinOrlando]

Listened today as I usually do and thought she is fine and did well. Doesn’t bother me at all. She will get better and better. Either way I enjoy listening to the show as well as the morning show. It’s good to hear hometown sports living here in Orlando!

[machine gun kelly]

On 5/26/2020 at 2:33 PM, Straight Hucklebuck said:

?

 

Schopp brings up Corsi puck possession statistics, he was on the Bills reliance on physical run game and special teams/defense as the rest of the league ditched 3 yards and a cloud of dust, he challenges the notion of locker room chemistry and work ethic as meaningful differentiators from team to team, he challenged the Bills thought process on tearing down the roster, trading away say a CB, then drafting a replacement in Round One.

 

He is more more attuned to changes in how sports organizations make decisions than Bulldog is.  He drives the show. Bulldog is not going to bring any original thought. He sits back and reacts to what is said around him. As others have noted in this thread, Bulldog hosting when Schopp is off is a chore to listen to. 

Easy solution.  Get Sirius, and listen to MTC in the afternoon, vs. those two buffoons.  I haven’t listened to the WGR afternoon show in years.  As far as OBD, I definitely would have preferred Sal and Brown, or alternating Sal and Tasker.  I heard Tasker today, and not sexist, but just don’t get the appeal of Glab.  She’s good for those fluff pieces on football trivia, but just not good as a host.

 

Just to make a point on the feminist thing, if anyone has listened to Mary Kay Cabot who reports on Cleveland, she is excellent on interviews with NFLR.  She knows, really knows what she is talking about with her team like Sal for us, or even Vic who hosts a weekend show on NFLR, and is dry, but quite good.