Don Otreply Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Rico said: He’s got injury concerns. If he does go to the Pats, then it’s up to the Bills to do the right thing, beat the living ***** out of him, and knock him out of football. Problem solved. I would word it differently ?, but If you know your opponent has a questionable hip, wrist, or ankle, your going to use that information to make your opponent less effective at his job, it is what it is. All teams do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Brady was terrible last year and the Bills still lost to them twice. Don't get me wrong. Their dynasty was 80% Brady and 20% Belichick. But until McD proves he can beat the Patriots they are still in the conversation. I think in the end they will sign Cam Newton and challenge the Bills well into December for the division title. Bills have a very difficult schedule but so do the Patriots. Brady may have had a down year (for him), but Stidham or any Cheaters QB would kill for a 61% completion rate for over 4,000 and a 3:1 TD:INT ratio on a good offense, much less the one he'll inherit. And Tommy always played some of his best games against the Bills. Always drove me crazy. Edited April 18, 2020 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 i still think dalton is the clubhouse favorite to go to the pats. maybe even cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, frostbitmic said: Rumor is they're taking some nobody in the latter rounds to play QB Probably 6th round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 3 hours ago, FireChans said: Rosen may have ended up decent in NE tbh. he still might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Foxx said: he still might. Doubtful, at best. When 2 organization essentially have given up on you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: When you put it that way - I kind of do need to get a life? Yeah...stop talking about football 5 days from the draft. Will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Doubtful, at best. When 2 organization essentially have given up on you... if Miami drafts a QB, who do you think is leaving? Fitz or the Rosen one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Foxx said: if Miami drafts a QB, who do you think is leaving? Fitz or the Rosen one? I think Rosen will be gone, they’ll probably try to trade him although I doubt Rosen has any trade value especially of how bad he played last year and that he got benched in favor of Fitzpatrick who was benched after the first 3 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 5 hours ago, FireChans said: Rosen may have ended up decent in NE tbh. I've never been a Rosen fan, but it's almost criminal how the Miami FO handled him. They put their entire roster up for sale, and sold off all their best players. They were tanking so bad that the NFL Competition Committee got involved. Then they put Rosen at the helm, slapped him on the ass and said, "now get out there and suck...!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 outta 32 chance man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Brady was terrible last year and the Bills still lost to them twice. Don't get me wrong. Their dynasty was 80% Brady and 20% Belichick. But until McD proves he can beat the Patriots they are still in the conversation. I think in the end they will sign Cam Newton and challenge the Bills well into December for the division title. Bills have a very difficult schedule but so do the Patriots. He threw for 24tds, 8ints and over 4,000 yards. Yeah, terrible. We lost both games by a combined 13 points.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F.W. Cyclone Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: When you put it that way - I kind of do need to get a life? I need to apologize to you for my earlier post when I said you need to get a life. It was meant to be just some good natured kidding but it seems that it came out all wrong. I meant no disrespect to you at all. I'm truly sorry if I offended you. I will delete that post now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 New England? The team that used to be relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, Blackkat19 said: I need to apologize to you for my earlier post when I said you need to get a life. It was meant to be just some good natured kidding but it seems that it came out all wrong. I meant no disrespect to you at all. I'm truly sorry if I offended you. I will delete that post now. But you were right! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Foxx said: if Miami drafts a QB, who do you think is leaving? Fitz or the Rosen one? If I had to guess, Fitz. They'll let all 3 compete in camp. If Rosen shines, they might keep all 3 since Fitz can be a mentor to the rookie. If Rosen doesn't, he'll be cut or traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 9 hours ago, HappyDays said: Remember all those rumors that the Patriots were going to trade up for Josh Rosen? In retrospect I wish they had done it. Josh Rosen concurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 21 hours ago, Rico said: He’s got injury concerns. If he does go to the Pats, then it’s up to the Bills to do the right thing, beat the living ***** out of him, and knock him out of football. Problem solved. Rico is one bad ars mofo. Just kidding bud. I agree from a previous poster, this thought is silly and no way Tua falls anywhere close to the Pats, but even if he did, he won’t last long given his size and injuries. He’ll have to get used to getting rid of the ball, Brady fast to have even a chance, but I never root for any player to get knocked out of football. If it happens, ok, but rooting for a career ending injury doesn’t sit right with me. 11 hours ago, Blackkat19 said: I need to apologize to you for my earlier post when I said you need to get a life. It was meant to be just some good natured kidding but it seems that it came out all wrong. I meant no disrespect to you at all. I'm truly sorry if I offended you. I will delete that post now. Blackkat, you did exactly what should be done more often. Coach Tuesday’s a good guy from what I see in his posts. He’ll be fine, and now that you clarified, you might end up as friends on threads as I don’t harbor Ill will when I’m slammed, as anyone can misunderstand someone’s meaning, or maybe could have been written better. I just appreciate a man if he may have made a mistake, owns it. That’s class. I hope both you guys enjoy you’re Sunday, even though it is Groundhog Day right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 14 hours ago, BillsFan2313 said: He threw for 24tds, 8ints and over 4,000 yards. Yeah, terrible. We lost both games by a combined 13 points.... Good call out. I usually check my stats before posting. Brady was good but seemed to show his age as the season wore on. Bills still lost both games even if score ended up close. McD needs to prove he can beat Belichick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Good call out. I usually check my stats before posting. Brady was good but seemed to show his age as the season wore on. Bills still lost both games even if score ended up close. McD needs to prove he can beat Belichick Definitely wasn't typical Brady. Could it be due to weapons? I don't know, we will find out this year, since he is loaded with weapons. He was still an above average QB last year. I agree, McD needs to prove he can coach with Belichick. Until then, NE is still the team to beat IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 If the Dolphins and Chargers take other QBs then where Tua falls is anyone's guess. Yet wouldn't be shocked if he falls. I'm also curious where Jordan Love falls as could see him in Miami if go other position at 4 but could see New England getting him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 Peter King is predicting this happens in his mock today. Peter Kong’s Mock and Happy 4/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) On 4/18/2020 at 1:41 PM, FireChans said: Rosen may have ended up decent in NE tbh. Nope. Hes just a bad player He's Losman in the 2017 class. And I think that is an insult to Losman Edited April 20, 2020 by Captain Hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Nope. Hes just a bad player He's Losman in the 2017 class. And I think that is an insult to Losman It's hard to judge his abilities based on what he's done in the NFL. He went from starting his rookie season in Arizona behind the worst ranked O-line in the league, to Miami where the front office literally wanted him to fail, and set him up as such, so badly that the NFL Competition Committee got involved. Arizona was inept. Miami was downright cruel. Mind you, I'm no Rosen fan, and I never wanted Buffalo to draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Peter King is predicting this happens in his mock today. Peter Kong’s Mock and Happy 4/20 I doubt he'd get past the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: It's hard to judge his abilities based on what he's done in the NFL. He went from starting his rookie season in Arizona behind the worst ranked O-line in the league, to Miami where the front office literally wanted him to fail, and set him up as such, so badly that the NFL Competition Committee got involved. Arizona was inept. Miami was downright cruel. Mind you, I'm no Rosen fan, and I never wanted Buffalo to draft him. How is their any proof of this? And you can absolutely judge him to this point. His o-line in AZ was no worse than Josh's in Buffalo. He had better weapons too with a HALL OF FAMER WR. Josh had 3 guys who are currently out of the NFL. One guy made the people around him better, one did not. At some point it can be that Rosen was put into a bad situation and he still sucks. They do not have to be mutually exclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Any chance Tua lands in New England? This isn't the NBA/NHL............. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: How is their any proof of this? And you can absolutely judge him to this point. His o-line in AZ was no worse than Josh's in Buffalo. He had better weapons too with a HALL OF FAMER WR. Josh had 3 guys who are currently out of the NFL. One guy made the people around him better, one did not. At some point it can be that Rosen was put into a bad situation and he still sucks. They do not have to be mutually exclusive Well, the Miami FO's plan to tank the season was egregious enough that the NFL Competition Committee got involved. And, I also have to disagree that AZ's O-line (ranked 32) wasn't any worse than Buffalo's (ranked 29). They were. They were really, really bad. But, again, I'm no Rosen fan. At all. I just tend to agree with FireChan's take on him over yours, more or less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Well, the Miami FO's plan to tank the season was egregious enough that the NFL Competition Committee got involved. And, I also have to disagree that AZ's O-line (ranked 32) wasn't any worse than Buffalo's (ranked 29). They were. They were really, really bad. But, again, I'm no Rosen fan. At all. I just tend to agree with FireChan's take on him over yours, more or less... I'm just tired of people making excuses for a guy who just can't cut it at this level. Its such a common tale its maddening that people still defend a guy who two teams gave up on after a year and a half after he was a top ten pick. I'd encourage people to go watch his AZ tape. I watched a bunch last year before the draft to see why they were gonna give up on him after a year and by game 6 I would have benched him myself. Yes thats a bad team and not well coached but Rosen was awful. No anticipation, no zip, late on reads, just bad. He looked closer to Peterman than a viable starter. The fact their was any debate over whether to keep him or draft Murray is laughable. If there was any sign of progress or a glimmer of hope, no way he gets pulled for Fitz after Fitz was benched. I'd argue that if the Dolphins were in fact tanking, they would have kept playing Rosen. Playing Fitz was their only hope of winning a game and they knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 44 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I'm just tired of people making excuses for a guy who just can't cut it at this level. Its such a common tale its maddening that people still defend a guy who two teams gave up on after a year and a half after he was a top ten pick. I'd encourage people to go watch his AZ tape. I watched a bunch last year before the draft to see why they were gonna give up on him after a year and by game 6 I would have benched him myself. Yes thats a bad team and not well coached but Rosen was awful. No anticipation, no zip, late on reads, just bad. He looked closer to Peterman than a viable starter. The fact their was any debate over whether to keep him or draft Murray is laughable. If there was any sign of progress or a glimmer of hope, no way he gets pulled for Fitz after Fitz was benched. I'd argue that if the Dolphins were in fact tanking, they would have kept playing Rosen. Playing Fitz was their only hope of winning a game and they knew it. Ease up buddy, I'm not making excuses, or defending anybody. I don't like Rosen, I don't think he's a good QB, and I'm glad he's not a Bill. I'm just talking about a guy whose career could have taken a much different trajectory had he not been put in such horrible situations. As far as the deal in Miami last season, my take was that the FO was tanking, and Flores was trying to win games with the crap they left him. When you consider the players they traded away, and the fact that they literally put the entire roster up for sale, it's not such a hot take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I'm more concerned about Jalen Hurts TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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