YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, below said: poor Ray-Ray McCloud... did we save anything by not tendering him? He was on the practice squad so not an RFA. He signed a futures contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: He is absolutely NOT right Not evert player in the NFL needs to be the best at their position in order to avoid "sucking" He fills a need especially in this OC's offense....he has helped us win games.....he cant do EVERYTHING that I want out of a go to receiver.....that does not make him "suck not everyone can be Stephon Diggs Jesus.....just a horrible take....from both him AND you You suck, he be barely is an NFL receiver. No catch radius, no separation. Brown and now Diggs can easily replace the one play per game he gave us. Glad you aren’t making personal decisions, your take is horrendous. 30 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: He is a gadget guy especially at his size i can think of a lot of wr we had on this team that def sucked if they use him correct he can make plays just stop throwing him end zone boundary passes Yeah a roster spot for one gadget play per game, brilliant.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: You suck, he be barely is an NFL receiver. No catch radius, no separation. Brown and now Diggs can easily replace the one play per game he gave us. Glad you aren’t making personal decisions, your take is horrendous. Yeah a roster spot for one gadget play per game, brilliant.... Hey chief go back and look how many reps that barely an nfl receiver took and how many plays he made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Hey chief go back and look how many reps that barely an nfl receiver took and how many plays he made Suck was too harsh a word you are right about that, but McKenzie is barely an NFL level receiver. He really brings little to the table and nothing that can’t be replaced by Brown and Diggs... IMO... and reps don’t mean anything, we still had a terrible group past the first two. Somebody was going to get reps... Edited March 25, 2020 by Meatloaf63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: You suck, he be barely is an NFL receiver. No catch radius, no separation. Brown and now Diggs can easily replace the one play per game he gave us. Glad you aren’t making personal decisions, your take is horrendous. Yeah a roster spot for one gadget play per game, brilliant.... Hey chief go back and look how many reps that barely an nfl receiver took and how many plays he made 1 minute ago, Meatloaf63 said: Suck was too harsh a word you are right about that, but McKenzie is barely an NFL level receiver. He really brings little to the table and nothing that can’t be replaced by Brown and Diggs... IMO... he will never be confused with brown or diggs he is your end of the bench wr that has certain things he does well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Another "chief" battle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Hey chief go back and look how many reps that barely an nfl receiver took and how many plays he made he will never be confused with brown or diggs he is your end of the bench wr that has certain things he does well I would think if we draft another receiver by the third round, he or Foster will be gone. The only thing that saves foster is special teams, but that may not be enough to save him next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: I would think if we draft another receiver by the third round, he or Foster will be gone. The only thing that saves foster is special teams, but that may not be enough to save him next year... I want to say it would be foster but special teams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I want to say it would be foster but special teams Wasn’t the Pittsburgh Lb a special team standout? Not sure if a gunner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I’m actually glad he’s not “resigned”. This is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I may sound like a broken record because of I have mentioned it before. It always seemed to me that the Bills running game would open up when they used McKenzie in motion and fake the jet sweep (or perhaps it was a read where he could get the jet sweep in some cases). Never the less, I always noticed that Singletary would rip a few good runs on those plays. Anyone else notice that or perhaps has evidence against it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Mueller Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 12 hours ago, NewEra said: I have love for the kid. Seems like a good locker room guy and has burst not many in the league have. Glad he’s back but he’s got an uphill climb to make the roster imo. I figure Beane will add another solid wr for him to compete with Brandon Reilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Meatloaf63 said: Wasn’t the Pittsburgh Lb a special team standout? Not sure if a gunner though. Are you taking about matetich yes also Taiwan jones they do throw talent at special teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Jamie Mueller said: Brandon Reilly Mckenzie actually played and contributed in the regular season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I like this signing. But is there a chance he may not even make the final roster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 With the depth at WR in this draft, the Bills would be foolish not to draft a WR or two before 5th round. Diggs-Smokey-Beasley are one of the top WR trios in NFL, and Roberts is solid at KR. That's 4 WR spots. We will keep 6 ,or 7 tops (doubtful, especially with Rambo, Kroft, Sweeney, Smith, Croom, not to mention DiMarco-how many spots will we tie up at WR/TE/FB?). Let's solidify WR spots 4 and 5. We have the team depth, and the draft picks. Competition is good. May the best 6-7 make roster and kick ass. I'm down drafting RB in 2nd, WR 3rd, 4th. Let's get this offense cranked up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Bingo... Allen was all about Duke in that playoff game. Unfortunately Duke dropped a few of them..... they will draft one and Duke/Isiah/Foster will battle it out for the last spot. IMO, I'd go with Duke over both of them. I think it's obvious to anyone with a brain that the Bills aren't "committed" to McKenzie after re-signing him to a 1-year cheap-as-dirt contract, but he was productive at times and it's possible he develops further. I don't understand folks who are critical of contracts like these because they are easily terminated at minimal loss to the team. It's literally a no-risk deal for the Bills to bring back a guy familiar with the offense who has some skills and fits the culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: I didn't say they were committed. I know. Just responded to the last post, which was you responding to someone who complained about the signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsfan89 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 7:05 PM, John from Riverside said: He is a gadget guy especially at his size i can think of a lot of wr we had on this team that def sucked if they use him correct he can make plays just stop throwing him end zone boundary passes Mac brings speed to the offense and in the NFL speed alone can make a couple of plays here and there. Speed is also something you can design specific plays around which adds a small dimension to the offense. To me he is a solid gadget play guy. 2 to 3 touches a game with some sweep fakes and other diversions thrown in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 50 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Mac brings speed to the offense and in the NFL speed alone can make a couple of plays here and there. Speed is also something you can design specific plays around which adds a small dimension to the offense. To me he is a solid gadget play guy. 2 to 3 touches a game with some sweep fakes and other diversions thrown in. I would like him to expand his game, but this is all true. He absolutely can break one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, 3rdand12 said: I would like him to expand his game, but this is all true. He absolutely can break one I wish he would expand his game but some guys are just athletes who can't for whatever reason expand their skillset and as the old adage says you can't teach speed. I think his current value is as a WR 5 who has a few plays designed for him with the added value of being a backup kick returner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: I wish he would expand his game but some guys are just athletes who can't for whatever reason expand their skillset and as the old adage says you can't teach speed. I think his current value is as a WR 5 who has a few plays designed for him with the added value of being a backup kick returner. I was okay with him not returning, and i am okay with him back on the team. Certainly will cheer for him. He has skills for sure beyond speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Robert Foster is the one with insane speed on this roster. But he comes off such a bad season that the Bills needed to re-sign McKenzie for the speed element on this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I seriously don’t k ow what happened to Robert foster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Good move. He doesn't get too many snaps, but he makes the most of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I seriously don’t k ow what happened to Robert foster Dude made me feel like Obi-Wan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I didn't see his Combine profile posted anywhere and this seems a good a place as any: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/isaiah-mckenzie?id=2558129 What stands out is that while is he fast, posted a Combine 4.42, he is actually SLOWER than RB Jonathon Taylor from Wisconsin who posted a 4.39. That is not an indictment against McKenzie, but rather a startling eye-opening fact about Taylor. Imagine a larger, stronger, faster McKeznie who has quick cuts and solid frame. By comparison, Tyreek Hill's Pro Day produced a 4.29 for the 40 while being about the same size as McKenzie, but a little heavier. That's just a way of saying that while I think McKenzie "could" offer something electric to the Offense, it needs to be specifically schemed for him which makes his use within the system a bit more cumbersome, IMO. (Interesting note: in Hill's Combine profile it mentions his conviction for assaulting his girlfriend....history, does indeed repeat itself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Well, being that they in effect fired him and rehired him for less money I don’t think he is considered a key guy, he may not make the team. Being that they resigned DW last year for two year deal, I suspect they don’t hold IM as important of a piece on the team. Okay signing but nothing to write home about. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I like Mckenzie - he was basically WR3 last year regarding snap counts. So while his snaps likely get lost to diggs - his gadget style plays always have a role and he's effective in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 23 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: I would like him to expand his game, but this is all true. He absolutely can break one He did. He plays defense. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Well, being that they in effect fired him and rehired him for less money I don’t think he is considered a key guy, he may not make the team. Being that they resigned DW last year for two year deal, I suspect they don’t hold IM as important of a piece on the team. Okay signing but nothing to write home about. Go Bills!!! while it is true , he may be nothing to write home to Mom about. he has been and is again a Buffalo Bill. so we will root for him and wish him/Bills well this season. seems like another Good Kid who can make some plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: while it is true , he may be nothing to write home to Mom about. he has been and is again a Buffalo Bill. so we will root for him and wish him/Bills well this season. seems like another Good Kid who can make some plays. Good points all, ? him DW, RF etc, are guys that are in tuff positions as 4th 5th 6th or 7th receivers, all lower value guys, that we all hope bring it on game day. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 11:12 PM, Don Otreply said: Good points all, ? him DW, RF etc, are guys that are in tuff positions as 4th 5th 6th or 7th receivers, all lower value guys, that we all hope bring it on game day. Go Bills!!! and i would not be surprised if Bills do not draft WR to push both those guys hard for a spot. Different types of players in Duke and Robert. Call me carzy but i can imagine Bills drafting two. one earlier and one later on. Creating competition for both the guys you mentioned. They both need to play better or get upgraded imho ty Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia828 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Awesome, more jet sweeps from our college OC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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