The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Doc]

Just now, reddogblitz said:

Trump has a park named after him in Israel. Does Dr. Fauce have one?

 

No.  Probably Wuhan...

[Big Blitz]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[John Adams]

11 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unlike you, I don’t have a subscription to the Australian Herald Sun. When you read the whole article, and not just 2 sentences, what does it say?  
 

You did read the whole thing right? 
 

 

[Big Blitz]

4 hours ago, John Adams said:

Unlike you, I don’t have a subscription to the Australian Herald Sun. When you read the whole article, and not just 2 sentences, what does it say?  
 

You did read the whole thing right? 
 

 

 

 

You love them and think they work so why does this bother you?  Shouldn't your reaction be "awesome!  We need to be like them!'

 

 

Anyway....

 

Google is your friend:

 

 

Face masks could be required on public transport and at busy indoor venues in Australia to curb the spread of Covid-19 for years to come even after everyone is vaccinated, some experts claim.

 

Infectious disease specialists said on Sunday that the jab is the key to keeping the virus under control once the nation opens its borders to countries with vastly different health strategies

 

But they also said Covid-19 will be in the community for years, and face coverings will still be required to to keep potential outbreaks at bay

 

University of Melbourne epidemiologist Tony Blakely told the Herald Sun vaccination alone may not be enough to containing infections.

 

'We won't be throwing away masks, we will still be wearing them on public transport, for example,' he said.  'We will be wearing them indoors when there is a community outbreak.'  

 

Similarly, Burnet Institute director Brendan Crabb said the virus wasn't about to disappear and that Australians have to prepare for tightened measures to reduce the chance of widespread illness and more deaths.

 

'It won't just be vaccines for the next few years or so. The more that we all buy into that – governments and individuals – then the earlier we can open,' he said.

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9753487/Claims-Australians-wear-masks-YEARS-vaccinated.html

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Big Blitz]

Fauci now says some fully-vaccinated people SHOULD wear masks

 

Dr Anthony Fauci flip-flopped on the issue of mask-wearing yet again on Sunday when he said that fully-vaccinated people living in areas with low vaccination rates should 'go the extra step' and cover their face. 

 

'You have a broad recommendation for the country as a whole that, if you are vaccinated, you have a high degree of protection so you need not wear a mask indoor or outdoor,' Fauci said Friday. 

 

'But (so disregard everything i just told you) also as it’s been said and as the CDC has recommended, there’s a degree of flexibility. People at the local level, depending on the on-ground situation, will make recommendations or not according to the local situation.'*** 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9755187/Fauci-says-fully-vaccinated-people-wear-masks-areas-low-shot-rates.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Governor]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Fauci now says some fully-vaccinated people SHOULD wear masks

 

Dr Anthony Fauci flip-flopped on the issue of mask-wearing yet again on Sunday when he said that fully-vaccinated people living in areas with low vaccination rates should 'go the extra step' and cover their face. 

 

'You have a broad recommendation for the country as a whole that, if you are vaccinated, you have a high degree of protection so you need not wear a mask indoor or outdoor,' Fauci said Friday. 

 

'But (so disregard everything i just told you) also as it’s been said and as the CDC has recommended, there’s a degree of flexibility. People at the local level, depending on the on-ground situation, will make recommendations or not according to the local situation.'*** 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9755187/Fauci-says-fully-vaccinated-people-wear-masks-areas-low-shot-rates.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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He was talking about Mississippi and other areas that have high concentration of Bubbas who are only at 30 percent vaccinated.

 

I wouldn’t travel to or spend money in a red state right now. Common sense.

[SoCal Deek]

3 hours ago, Governor said:

He was talking about Mississippi and other areas that have high concentration of Bubbas who are only at 30 percent vaccinated.

 

I wouldn’t travel to or spend money in a red state right now. Common sense.

The Freudian slips get you every time. Spend money? Yes a lack of economic activity is the other well established scientific method for crushing your enemies… and the virus….er wait.

[Big Blitz]

9 hours ago, Governor said:

He was talking about Mississippi and other areas that have high concentration of Bubbas who are only at 30 percent vaccinated.

 

I wouldn’t travel to or spend money in a red state right now. Common sense.

 

 

 

Then avoid beef.  

[FireChans]

6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

The Freudian slips get you every time. Spend money? Yes a lack of economic activity is the other well established scientific method for crushing your enemies… and the virus….er wait.

COVID can travel through your credit card!

[716er]

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

OH: A Review of COVID-19 Deaths in Two California Counties Drops the Total by Nearly 25%.

 

https://pjmedia.com/uncategorized/stacey-lennox/2021/07/05/a-review-of-covid-19-deaths-in-two-california-counties-drops-the-total-by-nearly-25-n1459543

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 6, 2021 by B-Man

[716er]

9 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

OH: A Review of COVID-19 Deaths in Two California Counties Drops the Total by Nearly 25%.

 

https://pjmedia.com/uncategorized/stacey-lennox/2021/07/05/a-review-of-covid-19-deaths-in-two-california-counties-drops-the-total-by-nearly-25-n1459543

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scientists naming variants of a virus is a fear tactic and a control scheme.

 

This is too dumb for PPP.

 

[oldmanfan]

Darwinism is now going to come to the forefront.  The data is clear now:  those that are unvaccinated are the ones that get infected at this point.  So just open everything back up.  Of course that means that some ignorant people that refuse to accept things like data and fact are going to either die or have long lasting illness.  And it also means some little kids will likely die because of the stupidity of their loved ones.  Bur Ron White is correct:  you can't fix stupid.

 

All because a national health crisis got turned into a political football.  Hope those that supported such nonsense are happy.

[Big Blitz]

There it is.  All about that "collective."  

 

SoCiAliSm 

 

 

 

COVID-19: The Delta variant is now spreading uncontrollably among the unvaccinated.

 

The PM is taking a gamble

 

Boris Johnson's "big bang" approach to reopening and of shifting responsibility for managing the virus on to the individual rather than the collective is at odds with some of the scientific advice.

 

 

Our lives have been governed by rules, restrictions and limits on our freedoms over the past 16 months as the government tried to deal with the worst pandemic we've seen in a century.

 

But in two weeks' time, the rules will be gone, even if the virus is still going strong (lolol team eradication lol)

 

Boris Johnson announced yesterday that he would lift all rules, except the requirement to self-isolate if you have COVID-19 or are tracked and traced by the NHS.

 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-ministers-step-out-of-our-lives-but-the-big-unknown-is-whether-they-will-have-to-step-back-in-12349579

 

 

Lol the rules

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 6, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Sundancer]

 

Why is the UK so different right now? I don't have an answer. Just strange. 

[Buddo]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

 

Why is the UK so different right now? I don't have an answer. Just strange. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

 

Those are the latest government figures for the UK.

 

Johnson etc. are taking a gamble, and it's based off of a couple of things. Firstly that the link between deaths and hospitalizations is in the process of being highly reduced by vaccinations, and also, that those who are getting infected with the latest variant, are very largely, the unvaccinated.

 

In essense, between a high percentage of people being fully vaccinated, and the increase in those who are getting covid being the unvaccinated, I believe they are thinking that we might get to some form of herd immunity, within the next month or so.

 

The big gamble is that hospitalizations and deaths, don't increase suddenly, because the Health Service is unlikely to be able to cope.

 

The reason why the UK has so many cases now, is the result of the arrival of the delta variant, just as we entered an easing of restrictions, and any track and trace systems we use, are hopeless. On the one hand, it can be said that what's occurring now is the end result of simple bad timing, on the other, the useless track and trace and quarantine rules (for entering the country) haven't done anything to mitigate the spread.

 

Currently, the 'way forward' is simply to get as many people as possible, vaccinated, and that is about the only method we have that can now be successful, i.e. herd immunity.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sundancer]

2 hours ago, Buddo said:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

 

Those are the latest government figures for the UK.

 

Johnson etc. are taking a gamble, and it's based off of a couple of things. Firstly that the link between deaths and hospitalizations is in the process of being highly reduced by vaccinations, and also, that those who are getting infected with the latest variant, are very largely, the unvaccinated.

 

In essense, between a high percentage of people being fully vaccinated, and the increase in those who are getting covid being the unvaccinated, I believe they are thinking that we might get to some form of herd immunity, within the next month or so.

 

The big gamble is that hospitalizations and deaths, don't increase suddenly, because the Health Service is unlikely to be able to cope.

 

The reason why the UK has so many cases now, is the result of the arrival of the delta variant, just as we entered an easing of restrictions, and any track and trace systems we use, are hopeless. On the one hand, it can be said that what's occurring now is the end result of simple bad timing, on the other, the useless track and trace and quarantine rules (for entering the country) haven't done anything to mitigate the spread.

 

Currently, the 'way forward' is simply to get as many people as possible, vaccinated, and that is about the only method we have that can now be successful, i.e. herd immunity.

 

The Delta variant is the predominant variant in the UK for sure, but why are the other countries in the EU (see the chart) seeing no rise. They have the Delta variant too. And so does the US. Are we all just behind the UK? 

 

I don't have those answers (and neither do you). I just find it curious and wonder why more credible people aren't talking about this oddity. Put it another way: Is what's happening in the UK coming to the US, or will we be more like continental Europe. 

 

I agree with Johnson's tactic. The people who don't want the vaccine in the UK made their bed. Now some will die in it. And yes it will take out some immuno-compromised, maybe give some kids long term problems or even kill a few. But those are the eggs you break to get society back to functional.  

[Big Blitz]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Earth 2 this gets the same kind of ferocious 24/7 media coverage and scrutiny the way they did on Earth 1, when Trump said to them he thinks HCQ could help.  

 

 

 

People don't understand we effectively are already are a lost cause and the government is going to proceed however they want because they know it.  

 

Should end well.   

[Doc]

As if The Lancet couldn't be any bigger of a joke as a "medical journal," they're now saying that anyone entertaining the lab leak origin of the Chinese virus is engaging in conspiracy theories.

 

  

[716er]

Get vaccinated idiots

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, 716er said:

Get vaccinated idiots

okay, I wasn’t going to…. but I will now that you said that.

[716er]

 

[Doc]

59 minutes ago, 716er said:

 

 

Yes, a totally new class of vaccine is exactly the same as mixing seltzer and alcohol, both of which have been around for centuries.

[716er]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yes, a totally new class of vaccine is exactly the same as mixing seltzer and alcohol, both of which have been around for centuries.

The right killed comedy 

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, 716er said:

The right killed comedy 

 

If that's what passes as comedy today (beyond the spiffy Twit handle "Kevin Durant's bald spot")...

[716er]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

If that's what passes as comedy today (beyond the spiffy Twit handle "Kevin Durant's bald spot")...

You should see the handles @galacticredpill retweets if you want some serious handle comedy

[B-Man]

 

 

 Benefits of Pfizer, Moderna vaccines ‘outweigh’ risk of rare heart inflammation.

 

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2021/07/06/coronavirus-vaccine-side-effect-heart-cdc/1991625581937/

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 7, 2021 by B-Man

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You’re right - you can’t fix stupid

[dpberr]

21 hours ago, Sundancer said:

 

Why is the UK so different right now? I don't have an answer. Just strange. 

My theory without belaboring the point:  The UK's longtime problems with Vitamin D insufficiency and deficiency, and it's similarly long time lack of fortified food products.  Everywhere in the world there is a covid spike - the same deficiency is there.  The most vulnerable populations to COVID are the obese and elderly, again guaranteed to be insufficient without supplementation, very likely to be deficient.

 

If you did a Vitamin D blood test of 100 randomly picked COVID positive patients, (vaccine status, age, race irrelevant), I'd bet 90% of them will be insufficient or deficient in Vitamin D.  Those people who have worked around COVID or been around others who haven't gotten it aren't lucky - they likely have above average levels because they supplement and/or regularly eat a lot of fortified products (millk, cereals, cheese, eggs).

[SoCal Deek]

4 hours ago, 716er said:

Get vaccinated idiots

Are you a Medical Doctor?  Or did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night?  If neither, please leave people's personal health care decisions to them and their Doctor. That's what the Left's all about, right?

[Chef Jim]

4 hours ago, 716er said:

Get vaccinated idiots

 

And what shall I do with them once I round them up? 

[reddogblitz]

On 7/3/2021 at 1:44 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

 

Good luck to him I guess. Would be great if we could get to 75% or so.

 

Now I think we are about to the point where everyone has had ample opportunity to get vaccinated.  Science tells us if you are vaccinated you won't catch it or spread it.  So those that choose not to get it run the educated risk that they might catch or spread it to other non vaccinated people. 

 

If you wanna run that risk, good luck to you.  We're not gonna over run the hospitals or run out of respirators.

 

If mass injection sites, drug stores, grocery stores, lotteries haven't got you off the dime yet you're pretty dug in.  

 

The only real motivator left is for a person to realize its not worth the risk anymore IMHO.

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, dpberr said:

My theory without belaboring the point:  The UK's longtime problems with Vitamin D insufficiency and deficiency, and it's similarly long time lack of fortified food products.  Everywhere in the world there is a covid spike - the same deficiency is there.  The most vulnerable populations to COVID are the obese and elderly, again guaranteed to be insufficient without supplementation, very likely to be deficient.

 

If you did a Vitamin D blood test of 100 randomly picked COVID positive patients, (vaccine status, age, race irrelevant), I'd bet 90% of them will be insufficient or deficient in Vitamin D.  Those people who have worked around COVID or been around others who haven't gotten it aren't lucky - they likely have above average levels because they supplement and/or regularly eat a lot of fortified products (millk, cereals, cheese, eggs).

 

I got a new doctor 4 years ago when I moved back to SoCal.  He pushed Vitamin D on me like crazy.  I've been taking 10,000 IU daily for a couple years now.  

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ALF]

As long as the unvaccinated don't cause a variant that is resistant to vaccines , that's their choice. The problem is if they infect children who are not eligible for vaccine or immune compromised.

Edited July 8, 2021 by ALF

[Chef Jim]

14 minutes ago, ALF said:

As long as the unvaccinated don't cause a variant that is resistant to vaccines , that's their choice. The problem is if they infect children who are not eligible for vaccine or immune compromised.

Then they can mask up. 

[Big Blitz]

Oh no!!!

 

 

Warning that fully vaccinated may be spreading Delta variant as cases rise across US

 

 

Health experts in the United States have raised the alarm that vaccinated individuals might be spreading the Covid-19 Delta variant, as cases surge in states across the country.

 

The highly transmissible Delta variant now makes up more than half of new infections in the US.

 

Currently the B.1.1.7, or Alpha, variant is the dominant strain in the country, But researchers said the Delta variant would likely overtake the Alpha variant in three to four weeks.

 

Christopher Murray, director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, told Insider that the spread of the Delta variant could actually be worse than current data suggests.

 

“CDC guidance is not to test the vaccinated [unless they’re symptomatic], so we’re probably missing a bunch of transmission in vaccinated individuals,” Mr Murray said, who is the lead modeller at the IHME, which the White House has leaned on when making pandemic policies.

 

“We have 14 states where transmission has started to go back up,” he added.

 

The expert credited the rise in the Delta variant to both unvaccinated Americans and the relaxation of Covid-19 guidance across most of the US. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lifted its masking guidance in May for vaccinated Americans after more and more people received a jab.

 

But the spread of the Delta variant has influenced some areas across the US, such as Los Angeles County, to reimpose masking guidance for all residents, vaccinated or not.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/delta-variant-mask-covid-us-latest-b1880058.html

 

 

 

Edited July 8, 2021 by Big Blitz