Paulus Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 12 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: Are you under the impression that HIllary's 'deplorable' comment DIDN'T play a role in her loss? Are you equally under the impression that no one really cares about the Don Lemon moment? Pry not enough to change the election in 2016 but it may in 2020. Most people who are offended by those comments were already voting for Trump. Lemon just reinforced the out of touch coastal liberal elites contempt for middle America that has been a Republican rallying cry for quite a while now. This strategy by the right hurts candidates like Warren, Bloomberg, and Buttigeg more than Sanders or Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Hedge said: Me thinks they're all dead, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 170 deaths out of 7,811 cases. That’s a 2.2% fatality rate. Not much different than the influenza outbreaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) Take the people that might be infected with the coronavirus and place them in downtown LA. The coronavirus can fight it out with the typhus. Edited January 30, 2020 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 you know what goes well with a coronavirus? lyme disease. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Foxx said: you know what goes well with a coronavirus? lyme disease. I could see reposting this like on FB but the amount of pushback from the PC people there would be like a tsunami in the kiddie pool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Foxx said: you know what goes well with a coronavirus? lyme disease. 10/10 would read again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Nanker said: 170 deaths out of 7,811 cases. That’s a 2.2% fatality rate. Not much different than the influenza outbreaks. I think the cure for Coronavirus has been found. That would be the Kobe Bryant media feeding frenzy. Stay tuned more entertainment coming next week! Another hoax, celebrity death or misstep or maybe time for another bogey man episode. Terrorist attack or maybe that little ugly N.Korean guy will pull a stunt. Who knows either way I got my popcorn. Edited January 30, 2020 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Damn it. And I just got over my combo Swine/bird/ebola flu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Damn it. And I just got over my combo Swine/bird/ebola flu... I'm still waiting here patiently(pardon the pun) for Sars to comes get me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, Dante said: I'm still waiting here patiently(pardon the pun) for Sars to comes get me! Piker! I've been waiting 20 years for Y2K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Piker! I've been waiting 20 years for Y2K. Well, if you want to play the age game. I've been waiting since the 60s for the Russians to nuke us. Then, in the 70's the ozone was deteriorating so fast because of us sinful capitalists living the high life, we were going to be fried like a sunny side up egg. I think the clock on that was like 15 years or something. And when was acid rain a thing? I know well before Y2K. So much fear porn over my life I forget the timelines. Edited January 31, 2020 by Dante 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 At conservative estimates, if the trend holds, the number of confirmed cases would be around 20K by the end of our weekend, with 400-500 deaths, which is still a mortality rate of around 2%. It would also appear that the rise in international cases are not close to the growth seen in China (and still no international deaths), which is very positive, so far. A 6th case has been confirmed in the US, in Chicago. This was the first case of human to human transmission (all others had come from China). It was the spouse of the other infected person in Chicago, so they had more than just passing contact. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some updated numbers, as I was putting this together: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 A deadly virus is spreading from state to state and has infected 15 million Americans so far. It's influenza The 2019-2020 flu season is projected to be one of the worst in a decade, according to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. At least 140,000 people have been hospitalized with complications from the flu, and that number is predicted to climb as flu activity swirls. In the 2019-2020 season so far, 15 million people in the US have gotten the flu and 8,200 people have died from it, including at least 54 children. Flu activity has been elevated for 11 weeks straight, the CDC reported, and will likely continue for the next several weeks. https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/health/flu-deadly-virus-15-million-infected-trnd/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 3:41 AM, Doc Brown said: Pry not enough to change the election in 2016 but it may in 2020. Most people who are offended by those comments were already voting for Trump. Lemon just reinforced the out of touch coastal liberal elites contempt for middle America that has been a Republican rallying cry for quite a while now. This strategy by the right hurts candidates like Warren, Bloomberg, and Buttigeg more than Sanders or Biden. I just clicked on the last page, so not really sure how a thread about the corona virus devolved into a rehash of the 2016 election. But anyways, I think HRC deplorables comment was the turning point. In any election there are fence sitters and in 2016 there was a segment of conservative and libertarian voters that were leaning towards a 3rd party vote (such as Gary Johnson) The Deplorables comment was the moment those coin flip voters made up their mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, /dev/null said: I just clicked on the last page, so not really sure how a thread about the corona virus devolved into a rehash of the 2016 election. But anyways, I think HRC deplorables comment was the turning point. In any election there are fence sitters and in 2016 there was a segment of conservative and libertarian voters that were leaning towards a 3rd party vote (such as Gary Johnson) The Deplorables comment was the moment those coin flip voters made up their mind I don't buy it. The prospect of an Obama 3rd term to people on the politically engaged right was enough for them to hold their noses and vote for Trump. They're smart enough to know that a vote for a 3rd party is worthless. We'll never really know but the hatred of Obama/Hillary overcame whatever reservations they had about Trump even before that comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I don't buy it. The prospect of an Obama 3rd term to people on the politically engaged right was enough for them to hold their noses and vote for Trump. They're smart enough to know that a vote for a 3rd party is worthless. We'll never really know but the hatred of Obama/Hillary overcame whatever reservations they had about Trump even before that comment. Agreed the politically engaged right was going to vote for Trump. But a chunk of the less engaged and swing voters were either going to sit it out or vote for a 3rd party. Until the deplorables moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 8 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: CNN is amazing. They can turn any news story into a Trump story. I would really like to know what happened with the Bills loss to the Texans - there was something the Trumpster did to tip the scales, I just need CNN to tell me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, /dev/null said: Agreed the politically engaged right was going to vote for Trump. But a chunk of the less engaged and swing voters were either going to sit it out or vote for a 3rd party. Until the deplorables moment I actually think the Comey reopening of the Hillary case had more of a swing with malleable voters as a large reason those state polls were off was most of the undecideds in the final polls went to Trump. I remember my wife saying something along the lines of "She is really corrupt. Isn't she" after the Comey announcement. Unfortunately, we'll never really know. It was the most interesting election in my lifetime though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Still more diverse than the Democrat debate stage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I actually think the Comey reopening of the Hillary case had more of a swing with malleable voters as a large reason those state polls were off was most of the undecideds in the final polls went to Trump. I remember my wife saying something along the lines of "She is really corrupt. Isn't she" after the Comey announcement. Unfortunately, we'll never really know. It was the most interesting election in my lifetime though. Don't believe you are correct on that, but it is possible. But Clinton and her sycophants have only themselves to blame for that if you are right. Because if the polls hadn't all been cooked to make her coronation look inevitable, that craven coward Comey never would've had the balls to announce that at the time. He, like everybody else, was sure she'd win, so announcing the e-mail investigation when he did would allow her and her allies to sweep it under the rug were the Republicans to have held the House and try to investigate that matter themselves. His expediency may have cost her though that is highly debatable, but it wasn't nearly as harmful to her as her prior 24 years in the public eye which the deplorable comment clearly confirmed - she is a horrible, spiteful, selfish person who only cares about herself and POSSIBLY Chelsea; and rather than look out for the little guy like the D's all try to claim they do, she clearly looks down on them. Why anybody would want to vote for that is truly puzzling. Obviously a lot of people did vote for her, but she so clearly doesn't give a darn, it just becomes hard to see how they buy into her. Edited January 31, 2020 by Taro T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 hours ago, ALF said: A deadly virus is spreading from state to state and has infected 15 million Americans so far. It's influenza The 2019-2020 flu season is projected to be one of the worst in a decade, according to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. At least 140,000 people have been hospitalized with complications from the flu, and that number is predicted to climb as flu activity swirls. In the 2019-2020 season so far, 15 million people in the US have gotten the flu and 8,200 people have died from it, including at least 54 children. Flu activity has been elevated for 11 weeks straight, the CDC reported, and will likely continue for the next several weeks. https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/health/flu-deadly-virus-15-million-infected-trnd/index.html Pfft. Flu pandemics are sooo 1918. Get with the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 52 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Pfft. Flu pandemics are sooo 1918. Get with the 21st century. We haven't had a good plague in a while. Friggin Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Hedge said: At conservative estimates, if the trend holds, the number of confirmed cases would be around 20K by the end of our weekend, with 400-500 deaths, which is still a mortality rate of around 2%. It would also appear that the rise in international cases are not close to the growth seen in China (and still no international deaths), which is very positive, so far. A 6th case has been confirmed in the US, in Chicago. This was the first case of human to human transmission (all others had come from China). It was the spouse of the other infected person in Chicago, so they had more than just passing contact. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some updated numbers, as I was putting this together: Not a trustworthy source among them. All have an extensive history of bull$hite. Especially the UN, CNN, Reuters,WHO. To be fair I've never heard of BMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, Dante said: Not a trustworthy source among them. All have an extensive history of bull$hite. Especially the UN, CNN, Reuters,WHO. To be fair I've never heard of BMO Uh, you can verify all of those stories and statistics with multiple outlets. But don't let that stop you from smearing schitt all over the walls... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, Hedge said: Uh, you can verify all of those stories and statistics with multiple outlets. But don't let that stop you from smearing schitt all over the walls... Pattern awareness. It's all about that. Same shite repeated over an over an over again. Personally I find it funny that sheeple keep buying in. I don't care about stats or the number of outlets. Stats can be fabricated just like anything else. All fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On a side note, the DOW is down over 550 as of now, directly related to the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2.3% death rate from the Wuhan bug. 80,000 Americans died from flu in 2018 1,800 died last year Perspective people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Nanker said: 2.3% death rate from the Wuhan bug. 80,000 Americans died from flu in 2018 1,800 died last year Perspective people. I don't think anyone in the thread is panicking. It's just something to be aware of. From what I have posted, I have very pointedly avoided posting any videos from inside China that would stoke fears (and there are plenty of them out there). More than likely the numbers that are officially coming out of China are being understated, perhaps severely, but personally, I don't think we will get anywhere close to that point in the US. Also, some perspective on your perspective. The 80K number was revised downward to 61K deaths. As can be seen here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm This was the original estimate that your 80k article more than likely referenced: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018/archive.htm And it was estimated that 45 million people had influenza, which would be a 0.14% mortality rate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritBill Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 First confirmed cases here in the UK and the infected were in a hotel in my city. Anyway, I’ve just called the corona virus hotline and Tony Romo answered. Odd. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 VIDEO: Endless queues emerge as Hong Kongers race to stock up on masks and sanitizer. We don’t have enough face masks. Too many things run on just-in-time inventory systems. That’s fine when things go well, but not when things are rotten. Systems that are important when things are rotten should have robust stockpiles of necessities. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 DELTA, AMERICAN AND UNITED SUSPEND FLIGHTS BETWEEN US, CHINA. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: DELTA, AMERICAN AND UNITED SUSPEND FLIGHTS BETWEEN US, CHINA.. They put the 195 U.S. evacuees arriving in California from Wuhan in 14 day quarantine. Were it to ever infect the homeless out there...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Keep buying cheap substandard Chinese produce, meats and processed foods at discount dollar stores. Sooner or later the source of some U.S. outbreak will be tied to them. Their stuff comes in so fast by the tons, no way the all that stuff is checked out here. Soylent Yellow. Best thing we ever did in our house was remove virtually all processed foods from our intake. By this time next year we should be close to raising and harvesting most of our own food on our property. Stop eating processed foods, people. They're horrifically bad for you. Edited January 31, 2020 by IDBillzFan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 52 minutes ago, Hedge said: I don't think anyone in the thread is panicking. It's just something to be aware of. From what I have posted, I have very pointedly avoided posting any videos from inside China that would stoke fears (and there are plenty of them out there). More than likely the numbers that are officially coming out of China are being understated, perhaps severely, but personally, I don't think we will get anywhere close to that point in the US. Also, some perspective on your perspective. The 80K number was revised downward to 61K deaths. As can be seen here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018.htm This was the original estimate that your 80k article more than likely referenced: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2017-2018/archive.htm And it was estimated that 45 million people had influenza, which would be a 0.14% mortality rate. Agreed. I appreciate your efforts in keeping us informed. It seems like a nasty bug, and hopefully the full force efforts in place can keep it under control till it burns itself out. Just don't go to China now. We went a couple of years ago and were in Wuhan for a day. It's a pretty city. Sucks to be there now though. 13 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Best thing we ever did in our house was remove virtually all processed foods from our intake. By this time next year we should be close to raising and harvesting most of our own food on our property. Stop eating processed foods, people. They're horrifically bad for you. I don't know of a domestic source for black vinegar. It's a must for making a good dumpling sauce. ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, T&C said: On a side note, the DOW is down over 550 as of now, directly related to the virus. I had no idea that my entire financial outlook would depend on what is going on in China at all times! 1 hour ago, Hedge said: I don't think anyone in the thread is panicking. I'm panicking when I look at the Dow! 54 minutes ago, B-Man said: VIDEO: Endless queues emerge as Hong Kongers race to stock up on masks and sanitizer. We don’t have enough face masks. Too many things run on just-in-time inventory systems. That’s fine when things go well, but not when things are rotten. Systems that are important when things are rotten should have robust stockpiles of necessities. . Do those things actually even work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 @bbb Yeah, I'm freaking a bit too. But, China is basically closed... no flights, ports don't want to accept ships from them, etc. A ***** mess. And... lives are being lost. Right now its a no win situation. Down over 600 as of now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, bbb said: I had no idea that my entire financial outlook would depend on what is going on in China at all times! I'm panicking when I look at the Dow! Do those things actually even work? Yes, to a point. Washing your hands with soap and water is essential. Purell is NOT great for protecting against some bugs. Cover your cough and sneeze! Don't go to China right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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