US Egg Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Season ends and look what the cat drags in..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Scheduled to hit free agency. Wonder if he'd be open to Buffalo? I'll bet he'll be a man on a mission in 2020. John Brown is nice but he's not enough on his own-- let's give Josh the confidence in knowing the guys around him can win matchups and make plays for him. I have read that the Bengals are going to franchise him, so to get him will take a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acattack15 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 It is a no brainer to add multiple wide receivers to the roster this offseason. How Beane decides to do that (Draft vs. FA, or combination of both) is up for discussion, but the need to improve our WR talent was 100% apparent on Saturday. I fully expect the WR's in this upcoming draft to be looked at super closely, and expect one of our first 2 picks to be a WR. My preference would be one with size (Tee Higgins and Shenault are my top guys at this moment). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) I would not offer anything more than a 2 year deal (second year club option) with a little bit of guaranteed money. And very incentive based. anything more than that PASS. Edited January 6, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: I would also double down on him plus a first or second round WR. One year deal with maybe a second year team option if he stays healthy and performs while the rookie learns the ropes the first year. Allen could have a real breakout year with AJ/Brown/Beasley and a year under the belts of Ford/Singletary/Knox. Maybe a healthy Kroft steps up. I'd rather see if they can pry away a young up and coming stud like Mike Williams of the Chargers. Big, fast, great hands and grossly underutilized by that organization. With Keenan Allen, Hunter Henry, and Austin Ekeler (and Melvin Gordon, if he's still there) there are a lot of mouths to feed there. Plus, they have an unsettled situation at QB. They may not want to let him go but I'd certainly inquire before looking into AJ Green. At 6' 4", 220 lbs, three years in the league, and still only 25 when the season starts, he's the WR I'd want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 This throw ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, blitzboy54 said: Bring me Amari Cooper or bring me death See you at the funeral. I'll pray for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I think some folks would be surprised to learn how close he came to becoming a Bill in October 2 hours ago, BeastMaster said: Smoke says hi 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: You guys are nuts. If Allen could actually get the ball to his WRs, then Smoke and Beasley would’ve had their best seasons of their careers in 2019. Wait... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Green on a prove it deal and draft another WR. 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This throw ? That was an absolute dime. Needs to be pulled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: I'd rather see if they can pry away a young up and coming stud like Mike Williams of the Chargers. Big, fast, great hands and grossly underutilized by that organization. With Keenan Allen, Hunter Henry, and Austin Ekeler (and Melvin Gordon, if he's still there) there are a lot of mouths to feed there. Plus, they have an unsettled situation at QB. They may not want to let him go but I'd certainly inquire before looking into AJ Green. At 6' 4", 220 lbs, three years in the league, and still only 25 when the season starts, he's the WR I'd want. I can dig it. We have the money to pay him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 He will not pass the Beane availability requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 49 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I would not offer anything more than a 2 year deal (second year club option) with a little bit of guaranteed money. And very inventive based. anything more than that PASS. What are you thinking, perpetual motion machine? A safe and miniaturized nuclear reactor for consumer vehicle use? If he could pull either of those off I'd give him LOTS of guaranteed money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Lofton80 said: He will not pass the Beane availability requirement. John Brown missed 29 games in 4 seasons when the Bills tried to sign him prior to the 2018 season. There are always exceptions to the rule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: John Brown missed 29 games in 4 seasons when the Bills tried to sign him prior to the 2018 season. There are always exceptions to the rule. Also, the bengals are the cheapest organization in football (maybe in sports). The facility and resources the Bills have put toward player health would be a huge factor in Green’s availability going forward. The Bengals have none of that. They don’t even have an indoor practice facility! Edited January 6, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think watching Josh target Duke 10 times on Sat. and be willing to just throw it up to him downfield (accurately) shows that investment in a WR like this would be a good idea. I don’t like his injury history but I think that is the kind of thing that will keep his market price down a bit. Even if he’s only available 1/2 or 3/4 of the season I’d take it. I think you get a vet WR like this and draft a stud in the 1st two rounds as well. adding this element and a fast RB to pair with Motor ( Matt Breida? Kenyon Drake?) will take this offense to the next level. I agree on Green. I’d also be willing to draft another big target in round 1 or 2. Especially if the Bengals tag Green and try to trade him. We’d basically have him on a one year prove it deal, and his successor would basically be waiting in the Wings. And if it was someone like Shenault he could still be used in a variety of ways and basically replace what they had in McKenzie. Imagine a group of weapons like: AJ Green John Brown Cole Beasley Laviska Shenault One of Duke Williams/Isaiah Mckenzie/Robert Foster Andre Roberts Then at tight end: Knox Sweeney Kroft Plus: Singletary free agent like Breida or Drake 3rd round draft pick I have no doubt Beane will be on a mission to add weapons for Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Just now, Dkollidas said: I agree on Green. I’d also be willing to draft another big target in round 1 or 2. Especially if the Bengals tag Green and try to trade him. We’d basically have him on a one year prove it deal, and his successor would basically be waiting in the Wings. And if it was someone like Shenault he could still be used in a variety of ways and basically replace what they had in McKenzie. Imagine a group of weapons like: AJ Green John Brown Cole Beasley Laviska Shenault One of Duke Williams/Isaiah Mckenzie/Robert Foster Andre Roberts Then at tight end: Knox Sweeney Kroft Plus: Singletary free agent like Breida or Drake 3rd round draft pick I have no doubt Beane will be on a mission to add weapons for Allen. And bump Ford inside and sign Conklin in FA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Green is the perfect addition for us. Sure, he's had injuries, but he could step in day 1 & be a WR1. He'd come for a semi-reasonable 1-2 year deal. We still NEED to draft a guy in the first 2 rounds, and we'd be set at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Also, the bengals are the cheapest organization in football (maybe in sports). The facility and resources the Bills have put toward player health would be a huge factor in Green’s availability going forward. The Bengals have none of that. They don’t even have an indoor practice facility! Oh yeah, they’re brutal. The downside is that Brown is too cantankerous to either trade him or let him walk. He’ll tag him and expect him to play another year. 5 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: And bump Ford inside and sign Conklin in FA. Just start Nsekhe dangit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 MMM..a new and improved "what about AJ Green" thread....so fresh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Oh yeah, they’re brutal. The downside is that Brown is too cantankerous to either trade him or let him walk. He’ll tag him and expect him to play another year. Just start Nsekhe dangit!!! And Green is too nice. He said the tag would be ok. Maybe he’s interested in playing with Burrow though who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Just start Nsekhe dangit!!! Gotta heal up first, but even at full health I'd consider Jack a solid upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I would try to sign Green and draft a WR early. WRs tend to take a few years to develop and at that point Green will be old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 We need redundancy, as some have pointed out. I want the opponent to look at us and say man they have a lot of weapons. It is time to stop neglecting this area. Get me some more damn playmakers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 A healthy aj green is exactly what the bills need The problem a healthy aj green is no where to be found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: And bump Ford inside and sign Conklin in FA. Hokie, can you tell me about the TE from V Tech? 9 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: We need redundancy, as some have pointed out. I want the opponent to look at us and say man they have a lot of weapons. It is time to stop neglecting this area. Get me some more damn playmakers!!! Maybe Josh wouldn't try so hard to "make a play for his team" if he had playmakers to do it for him. 38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: And Green is too nice. He said the tag would be ok. Maybe he’s interested in playing with Burrow though who knows I read somewhere that he said he would sit out if Bengals tagged him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'd love Cooper, unfortunately I think he will become the highest paid WR if he hits the open market. I'd be fine with Green as long as they still drafted a WR in the 1st/2nd round as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 https://ugawire.usatoday.com/2019/12/22/aj-green-will-skip-bengals-otas-if-franchise-tagged/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: We need redundancy, as some have pointed out. I want the opponent to look at us and say man they have a lot of weapons. It is time to stop neglecting this area. Get me some more damn playmakers!!! Yep. WR1 in FA, RB2 in FA, WR early in the draft, and then the Bandit Special: Lynn Bowden in the draft! Gives you a versatile, Taysom Hill type threat that makes teams stop and think every time he’s on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I would not offer anything more than a 2 year deal (second year club option) with a little bit of guaranteed money. And very inventive based. anything more than that PASS. Agree. And even then.....if he has trouble seeing the field you might not be on the hook for a big payout but you also have to value the roster spot. Great as he has been his value is zero if not healthy. This is said to be a fantastic draft for WR coming up. Chances are you can get a high end prospect in the late rounds. So take two if the value is clearly there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL-Bills Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I can't believe there are people who would be against signing AJ Green. To me, he seems like the perfect FA addition for this team. You're likely looking at a 2 year deal with decent guaranteed $ and many incentives. No team is going to break the bank for this guy, but he will necessitate a decent amount of cap space of which the Bills have plenty. If the Bills can add AJ and a WR in the 1st or 2nd, I can't imagine a better situation for a rookie WR to come into than a room that includes AJ, Brown, and Beasley. Expectations would be tempered, pressure would be lower, and the opportunity to learn and grow with great teammates who have done this at a high level would be extremely valuable. I predict the Bills sign AJ to a 2 year deal worth about 22-24 Million. Cap hit of about 12. We'll draft a similar WR early (Jefferson, Tyler Johnson, Shenault, Higgins) and allow our young weapon to learn from one of the best to ever do it for a couple of years. Go Bills! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I think some folks would be surprised to learn how close he came to becoming a Bill in October i can dig it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Yep. WR1 in FA, RB2 in FA, WR early in the draft, and then the Bandit Special: Lynn Bowden in the draft! Gives you a versatile, Taysom Hill type threat that makes teams stop and think every time he’s on the field. I wonder if mcbeane would be ok with Bowden’s off field stuff. Ohio state said no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Yep. WR1 in FA, RB2 in FA, WR early in the draft, and then the Bandit Special: Lynn Bowden in the draft! Gives you a versatile, Taysom Hill type threat that makes teams stop and think every time he’s on the field. Thanks, I'll check him out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said: What are you thinking, perpetual motion machine? A safe and miniaturized nuclear reactor for consumer vehicle use? If he could pull either of those off I'd give him LOTS of guaranteed money! Ahhh I meant Incentive based, not sure why my phone changed it to inventive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 hours ago, kbarrettb said: Probably wants to go where the quarterback can actually throw it to him. Ouch.....as far as Green goes, he's just too old and injury prone to be a part of the Bills future. Draft a great 1st round wr and go after Amari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Agree. And even then.....if he has trouble seeing the field you might not be on the hook for a big payout but you also have to value the roster spot. Great as he has been his value is zero if not healthy. This is said to be a fantastic draft for WR coming up. Chances are you can get a high end prospect in the late rounds. So take two if the value is clearly there. Once year that could grow to say 15M. tie that growth if the contract based on availability. Then the Club Option can also carry some guaranteed money if he hits performance triggers. With his Injury History I am making him earn his guaranteed triggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Dkollidas said: Plus: Singletary free agent like Breida or Drake 3rd round draft pick I would guess that if Arizona has to choose between Drake and Johnson, they will keep Drake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 Green is more process-friendly than Cooper, I don't expect them to spend big on a guy who won't be a culture leader so to speak. Your highest paid players are your defacto leaders everyone looks up to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: A healthy aj green is exactly what the bills need The problem a healthy aj green is no where to be found I would bet a fair amount of money he was healthy enough by about week 10 and made a business decision to shut it down. I'm guessing that was fine with the Bengals because they were after the #1 overall pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 11 hours ago, John from Riverside said: All for it but I would double down with a 1st round pick like Laviska Shenault, This is the only way it makes sense for me. Green could mentor Shenault for a year or two, much like Gore did with Singletary. But I want a dynamic young, big and strong WR that can grow with Josh more than I want Green at this stage of his career. If Green takes reasonable money for a two year deal, no problem. But I just don't think he's looking for reasonable money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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