wppete Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) Was just on ESPN and McSahy has his Mock Draft 1.0 but you need to pay to view, so stupid. Anyone have the list???? I know he has 3 QBS going in the top 10. UPDATE - I JUST FOUND THIS VIDEO Edited December 17, 2019 by wppete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFreeman22 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 it's on espn 2 tonight at 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 23. Buffalo Bills Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, StHustle said: 23. Buffalo Bills Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here. this is higher than I have seen him going, but I he's gonna be a big riser during the process, so it wouldn't surprise me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: this is higher than I have seen him going, but I he's gonna be a big riser during the process, so it wouldn't surprise me. Another small WR? Makes little sense. I didn't see the full mock but prefer an edge rusher or a WR taller than 6'2" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, whatdrought said: this is higher than I have seen him going, but I he's gonna be a big riser during the process, so it wouldn't surprise me. All the names people like he has going before 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, StHustle said: 23. Buffalo Bills Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here. As long as the other WRs gone in his mock I am good with it. If not we’ll hate it. But is it a December Mock so won’t get all bent out of shape about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, StHustle said: 23. Buffalo Bills Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here. Hmmm, what did they have to trade to move up from 32 ? Edited December 17, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood 15 4 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I would break something if they take a corner. And I would be pretty ticked if they took an edge rusher too, but I would understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I love Aiyuk for Buffalo. He can fly and he competes on every snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Another small WR? Makes little sense. I didn't see the full mock but prefer an edge rusher or a WR taller than 6'2" 6’1 205 is small? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, StHustle said: 23. Buffalo Bills Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State Yes, John Brown and Cole Beasley have been a big part of the Bills' offense in quarterback Josh Allen's second season, but that doesn't mean the team doesn't need more help on that side of the ball. Aiyuk improves Buffalo's receiving corps with his versatility and speed. But don't be surprised if the Bills consider an edge rusher or cornerback here. That last sentence. A cornerback with our first pick when we have White and Wallace? Geeze. Is that the standard finishing sentence used for every team, or does he actually think we need a corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Another small WR? Makes little sense. I didn't see the full mock but prefer an edge rusher or a WR taller than 6'2" I mean, he's 6'1 and 205. That isn't small small. It's not huge, but I think it's easy to get too focused on height. We need a bigger guy, yes, but we need first and foremost, someone who can consistantly make plays. My WR wish list is as follows: 1- CeeDee Lamb, Oaklahoma 2- Jerry Juedy, Alabama 3- Henry Ruggs, III Alabama 4a- Tee Higgins, Clemson 4b- Laviska Shenault, Colorado After that there are a lot of guys with second round grades who I haven't really figured out who I like best. This is a great look at the top of the WR class for 2020:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2864432-ranking-the-top-10-wide-receivers-of-potentially-historic-2020-nfl-draft-class Edited December 17, 2019 by whatdrought 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: I mean, he's 6'1 and 205. That isn't small small. It's not huge, but I think it's easy to get too focused on height. We need a bigger guy, yes, but we need first and foremost, someone who can consistantly make plays. My WR wish list is as follows: 1- CeeDee Lamb, Oaklahoma 2- Jerry Juedy, Alabama 3- Henry Ruggs, III Alabama 4a-Tee Higgins, Clemson 4b-Laviska Shenault, Colorado After that there are a lot of guys with second round grades who I haven't really figured out who I like best. Yeah this is exactly what I want also. I hope one of these guys drops to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFreeman22 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Another small WR? Makes little sense. I didn't see the full mock but prefer an edge rusher or a WR taller than 6'2" this drives me NUTS! no, we don't want a 5'9" guy who balls out, just give us a tall guy, doesn't matter if he's any good, just somebody big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, wppete said: Yeah this is exactly what I want also. I hope one of these guys drops to us! I think the depth of the WR class (I've heard some guys say 25 WR's in the top 100 prospects.... 25!!) will cause some teams to wait on WR's which could push one of the top 5 or so to us. I personally wouldn't hate waiting till the second round for a WR if there's an Edge rusher, TE, or OL that we want/is a better value. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, wppete said: Was just on ESPN and McSahy has his Mock Draft 1.0 but you need to pay to view, so stupid. Anyone have the list???? I know he has 3 QBS going in the top 10. I actually paid for a month of ESPN+ last week for the first time in life for the insider Fantasy tips. Cost me $5. Im in my fantasy playoffs with $500 on the line and wanted every bit of help I could get. They break down injury impact and analyze direct match ups more than most sites do. Proud to report Im in the Championship game now. Definitely one and done on my ESPN+ subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 6’1 205 is small? It's certainly not big... 1 minute ago, SteveFreeman22 said: this drives me NUTS! no, we don't want a 5'9" guy who balls out, just give us a tall guy, doesn't matter if he's any good, just somebody big We already have small guys who ball out. That's the problem. We need a receiver who can go be physical with bigger corners and make contested catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, bobobonators said: That last sentence. A cornerback with our first pick when we have White and Wallace? Geeze. Is that the standard finishing sentence used for every team, or does he actually think we need a corner? Well, Wallace is awful so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Can't even get to the playoff game before the mock draft nonsense starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, bobobonators said: That last sentence. A cornerback with our first pick when we have White and Wallace? Geeze. Is that the standard finishing sentence used for every team, or does he actually think we need a corner? I'd want a linebacker over a corner. Someone to replace Alexander. Wouldn't hurt to have more linebacker depth as well. This defense suffered when Milano was out. Corner would be way down the list, but it's true you can never have too many good corners. My wants are: 1) WR 2) Oline 3) OLB 4) Edge Rusher 5) Everything else Oh, and we need a kicker, but not sure we should draft one. 3 minutes ago, Luka said: Well, Wallace is awful so... That's an ill informed take... He had a rough couple of games and missed a tackle, but otherwise he's been pretty good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeMafia Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Who we draft in Round 1 will probably be predicated on whom we sign in Free Agency. Considering the bounty of talent on the roster collected from both the last 3 draft's and FA classes, could easily see: Trading out of round 1 Using draft capital to move higher in the draft to nail another cornerstone piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 6’1 205 is small? I usually knock off 2 inches of a prospect's size until proven otherwise at the combine. 2 minutes ago, MJS said: I'd want a linebacker over a corner. Someone to replace Alexander. Wouldn't hurt to have more linebacker depth as well. This defense suffered when Milano was out. Corner would be way down the list, but it's true you can never have too many good corners. My wants are: 1) WR 2) Oline 3) OLB 4) Edge Rusher 5) Everything else Oh, and we need a kicker, but not sure we should draft one. Don't forget a punter as Bojo has been inconsistent all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I would break something if they take a corner. And I would be pretty ticked if they took an edge rusher too, but I would understand it. Yeah, honestly this is not a difficult first round pick for this team. Whatever you don't pick up in FA between a WR or pass rushing DE/LB is what you take in the first (mind you, if you are strictly picking by position...which I know is a big sin in the world of Best Player Available). Second round is more debatable (replacement LB for Lorax, OL?), but I would stick to the above in round 1. Edited December 17, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplebulldog Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Brinks truck for Amari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I mean, he's 6'1 and 205. That isn't small small. It's not huge, but I think it's easy to get too focused on height. We need a bigger guy, yes, but we need first and foremost, someone who can consistantly make plays. My WR wish list is as follows: 1- CeeDee Lamb, Oaklahoma 2- Jerry Juedy, Alabama 3- Henry Ruggs, III Alabama 4a- Tee Higgins, Clemson 4b- Laviska Shenault, Colorado After that there are a lot of guys with second round grades who I haven't really figured out who I like best. This is a great look at the top of the WR class for 2020:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2864432-ranking-the-top-10-wide-receivers-of-potentially-historic-2020-nfl-draft-class People focus on size a little too much. I’ll take a 6’0” guy with a 40” vertical and 4.4 over a K Benjamin all day.... Folks tend to forget that A Brown and OBJ are both under 6’. ?♂️. Size is just one way to get separation and isn’t important unless the guy plays big too. Now with that in mind, I’m against drafting a 5’8” smurf unless they have blazing speed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Don't forget a punter as Bojo has been inconsistent all season. I feel like he's been fine. Much better than most of us were expecting. I'd bring in some free agents to compete, but I bet he'd win the job again. He's young and developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, MJS said: It's certainly not big... We already have small guys who ball out. That's the problem. We need a receiver who can go be physical with bigger corners and make contested catches. Let's not confuse height for contested catch skills. Kelvin Benjamin is 6'5, Tyreek Hill is 5'10. I understand your sentiment, but height alone isn't the best indicator. If I could chose any WR in the world to put on this team it would be Mike Evans cause he's the missing piece. But if Mike Evans isn't available and someone like Stefon Diggs is, I'll still take the player whose gonna make plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) I would love to see us trade out of the first round and pick up a 2021 1st rounder. Something like this? Bills: 1st + 5th + 6th + 6th for 2nd, 4th + 2021 1st We'd have the following picks and still room to maneuver up and down the board. 2nd 2nd 3rd 4th 4th 5th 6th Also keep an eye out for Denzel Mims... I have a weird hunch he is the WR that we end up with.. Edited December 17, 2019 by JGMcD2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I mean, he's 6'1 and 205. That isn't small small. It's not huge, but I think it's easy to get too focused on height. We need a bigger guy, yes, but we need first and foremost, someone who can consistantly make plays. My WR wish list is as follows: 1- CeeDee Lamb, Oaklahoma 2- Jerry Juedy, Alabama 3- Henry Ruggs, III Alabama 4a- Tee Higgins, Clemson 4b- Laviska Shenault, Colorado After that there are a lot of guys with second round grades who I haven't really figured out who I like best. This is a great look at the top of the WR class for 2020:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2864432-ranking-the-top-10-wide-receivers-of-potentially-historic-2020-nfl-draft-class 6' 1" and 205 is fine but as you alluded to, size isn't everything. We need a receiver that is physical and can make a play on the ball. Our current group gets man handled against defenses like the Steelers and Ravens. Beasley all but disappears and Brown struggled against the Ravens because they were putting hands on him out of his breaks. Someone like Michael Pittman from USC or Tee Higgins from Clemson would be what I would want in the lower part of round 1. EDIT: Also, that link says that Greg Roman is the OC of the Bills lol Edited December 17, 2019 by Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, MJS said: It's certainly not big... We already have small guys who ball out. That's the problem. We need a receiver who can go be physical with bigger corners and make contested catches. and certainly isn’t small. 3 minutes ago, Purplebulldog said: Brinks truck for Amari no thanks. Brinks truck for the pass rusher draft the WR that is where the better value is in this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Why are we getting the 23rd pick? I thought the SuperBowl winner got the 32nd? That's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) BOOK IT: We will TRADE UP in the first round to land a coveted WR for Beane. Beane is aggressive when it comes to landing what he covets, and there is no way he wont be targeting one of these potential studs that will go before our pick most likely. This is assuming they are all still expected to go that high...clearly offseason workouts, combines, interviews, and even injuries could easily shift draft expectations for some prospects. But TODAY...all the top ones are expected to go before where we will likely pick. The only real variable in my mind for this would be if Beane felt he landed his "guy" in FA...like say AJ Green for example. If we sign AJ, something I think is a real possibility, then I think its less likely of a trade up unless it was for some other coveted player at another position. Not saying he wont still draft another WR, even early, just saying I think its less likely he trades up in the first to do so. I just dont see any way we enter the offseason without WR (and one with at least some size compared to our top 3 guys averaging 5'10") as Beanes number one priority. Edited December 17, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Luka said: 6' 1" and 205 is fine but as you alluded to, size isn't everything. We need a receiver that is physical and can make a play on the ball. Our current group gets man handled against defenses like the Steelers and Ravens. Beasley all but disappears and Brown struggled against the Ravens because they were putting hands on him out of his breaks. Someone like Michael Pittman from USC or Tee Higgins from Clemson would be what I would want in the lower part of round 1. I'm right there with you. One guy who intrigues the crap out of me is Chase Claypool, from Notre Dame. He's practically a TE, but he gets plays downfield. 10 minutes ago, Luka said: Well, Wallace is awful so... False. Blackbears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Buffalo Junction said: People focus on size a little too much. I’ll take a 6’0” guy with a 40” vertical and 4.4 over a K Benjamin all day.... Folks tend to forget that A Brown and OBJ are both under 6’. ?♂️. Size is just one way to get separation and isn’t important unless the guy plays big too. Now with that in mind, I’m against drafting a 5’8” smurf unless they have blazing speed. Can't just use Kelvin Benjamin as an example. He's out of the league (I think) because he doesn't want to work. His size is what kept him IN the league for so long. There are definately inherent advantages to size. Obviously it isn't everything, but it helps. We need a more physical (and likely bigger) receiver to make plays in games where the refs let defensive backs do whatever they want, like in the Ravens game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Yeah, honestly this is not a difficult first round pick for this team. Whatever you don't pick up in FA between a WR or pass rushing DE/LB is what you take in the first (mind you, if you are strictly picking by position...which I know is a big sin in the world of Best Player Available). Second round is more debatable (replacement LB for Lorax, OL?), but I would stick to the above in round 1. I agree but with how talented the WR class is, there is a solid chance BPA will be a WR anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: BOOK IT: We will TRADE UP in the first round to land a coveted WR for Beane. Beane is aggressive when it comes to landing what he covets, and there is no way he wont be targeting one of these potential studs that will go before our pick most likely. The only real variable in my mind for this would be if Beane felt he landed his "guy" in FA...like say AJ Green for example. If we sign AJ, something I think is a real possibility, then I think its less likely of a trade up unless it was for some other coveted player at another position. Not saying he wont still draft another WR, even early, just saying I think its less likely he trades up in the first to do so. I just dont see any way we enter the offseason without WR (and one with at least some size compared to our top 3 guys averaging 5'10") as Beanes number one priority. Man, I really hope this doesn't happen.... As it stands right now, there are about 10-15 WR's that would be first round picks in any other draft.... I want nothing to do with spending picks to get up and get a player at the deepest position pool. We did this the last time there was a thick WR class, and not only did we waste a pick, but we ended up getting the one bust of the group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) Hey Bills fans meet your new WR he also Runs the ball Edited December 17, 2019 by MAJBobby 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: and certainly isn’t small. I just don't see the point in getting a WR unless he's significantly bigger than Brown and Beasley. Those guys are good and we need something that they don't have. 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Let's not confuse height for contested catch skills. Kelvin Benjamin is 6'5, Tyreek Hill is 5'10. I understand your sentiment, but height alone isn't the best indicator. If I could chose any WR in the world to put on this team it would be Mike Evans cause he's the missing piece. But if Mike Evans isn't available and someone like Stefon Diggs is, I'll still take the player whose gonna make plays. Hill doesn't strike me as a contested catch guy. He's a burner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, MJS said: Can't just use Kelvin Benjamin as an example. He's out of the league (I think) because he doesn't want to work. His size is what kept him IN the league for so long. There are definately inherent advantages to size. Obviously it isn't everything, but it helps. We need a more physical (and likely bigger) receiver to make plays in games where the refs let defensive backs do whatever they want, like in the Ravens game. Size has it's benefits, and I don't think anyone is arguing that... But size without separation and a play-making knack leads to guys like Laquon Treadwell, and KB and a lot of others that never made it. Same way speed without route running and ball skills leads to the John Ross's and Corey Coleman's of the world. It's all about finding the most complete player. Tee Higgins is one that I'm beginning to really like if Lamb is gone when we pick (which he likely will be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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