Week 16 - Bills @ Patriots*** Line Bills (+7) [lets kick some ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​***]

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

The Bills should be motivated to beat their rival and force them to the No 3 seed and make them play 3 games to get to the SB including at least one away...  

 

There is a lot riding on the game....

 

 

This is a pretty important game in my mind. Someone earlier mentioned it but a win in NE for our team would mean more than just a W. It would be an emotional lift, monkey off our back message that the changing of

the guard is happening.

 

It also forces the Pats to play their starters week 17 with the division in play. 
 

I like where we are as a team. We are confident, have some swagger that we can play and win on the road.

 

I hope our guys on defense physically abuse Tom this week and further send him into a shell back there. We have a nasty d line and I hope we play as nasty as they did in Pitt and Tennessee. Our offense seems to be in a much better place than it was since we met first time.

This is our time. Let’s do this! 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2019 by loveorhatembillsfan4life

[cd1]

2 hours ago, CSBill said:

The Patriots are diminished, so even with a Bills win the national narrative will be more about their demise and the "is Brady done?" question. We just need to expect and accept that, and honestly, they have earned that attention. The question of their dynasty must be asked and evaluated when they lose Saturday.

 

Regardless, while it won't get as much press nationally, the story in this end of the world will be the changing of the guard at the top. The Pats may still win the division, but I believe a dominate Bills win signals the end to the AFC East as we have known it for the past 20 years. I think that is about to happen Saturday evening.

 

Hell - someone has to "stick a fork in it" - I just hope it is the BILLS!!!

[Coach Tuesday]

9 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I can't get myself excited for this game at all. I'll watch and root for us but I'm not particularly interested in the result. I hope we are saving some of our trickier plays for the playoffs, don't put them on tape now. I can't convince myself that Miami will beat New England. So this feels almost like a preseason game.

Wow.  I usually disagree with your takes.  IMO you couldn’t be more wrong here.  For the first time in decades I feel like there’s a decent chance the Bills go in there and beat the daylights out of the Pats in their own house.  It’s precisely for the reason you mention - the game potentially doesn’t mean much in the standings for each team.  That should allow the Bills to play fast and have fun.  The Patriots, by contrast, seem miserable this year.

 

I have lots more to say about this game but I have to shower and go to work.  But I haven’t been this excited for a game in many years.

[Stank_Nasty]

7 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

Gotta disagree here in the grand scheme of things. Going into New England and winning would be a huge symbolic victory regardless of the Miami result. McDermott has yet to beat BB and this would be a huge confidence builder. The Bills, along with MANY teams, seem to get caught up in the Patriots mystique when they play the Pats, especially in Foxborough. Get a dub, get that monkey off your back, and I think it shreds some of that mystique and portends good things going forward. I'm not generally into momentum/"confidence building" or any of that stuff, but this feels like a situation where it is applicable.

I agree. They are gonna have to be road warriors through the playoffs if they want to advance.  What better way to gain some confidence that you can travel through the playoffs than with a win in arguably the hardest place to play as a visiting team? 

Edited December 18, 2019 by Stank_Nasty

[DuckyBoys]

7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Wow.  I usually disagree with your takes.  IMO you couldn’t be more wrong here.  For the first time in decades I feel like there’s a decent chance the Bills go in there and beat the daylights out of the Pats in their own house.  It’s precisely for the reason you mention - the game potentially doesn’t mean much in the standings for each team.  That should allow the Bills to play fast and have fun.  The Patriots, by contrast, seem miserable this year.

 

I have lots more to say about this game but I have to shower and go to work.  But I haven’t been this excited for a game in many years.

 

Bills need to get this monkey off their backs.  I'm hopeful for a physically dominant beatdown of the Cheats.   Hope to hear lots of booing at Gillette on saturday

[Greg S]

While I don't expect the Bills to win the division this is still an important game. Get the monkey off their back and beat the evil empire in an important game in their house is a big time confidence builder for the Bills. I also love the fact that NE is finally being challenged for the division. Over the past 20 years the Pats would look at the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins as three little speed bumps they would drive over a combined six times a year to another division title. Those days are over. Bills 20 Evil Empire 17.

[May Day 10]

I read through a thread for the game on a Patriots' message board.

 

 

I guess it should be expected, but Im surprised at how many people still dismiss the Bills out of hand and expect this to be the game that Brady and the offense finally break out.

 

There are a few reasonable posters who recognize this could be a really bad match-up at this point... and at least admit this could be a close game at a minimum.

[MiltonWaddams]

19 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

I read through a thread for the game on a Patriots' message board.

 

 

I guess it should be expected, but Im surprised at how many people still dismiss the Bills out of hand and expect this to be the game that Brady and the offense finally break out.

 

There are a few reasonable posters who recognize this could be a really bad match-up at this point... and at least admit this could be a close game at a minimum.

That’s as typical of Pats fans as it gets. They missed the fact that the Bills D played Baltimore better than theirs did. Not to mention Dallas, Pittsburgh, the Dolphins (!!), Washington (!!) and the Pats only won the first game due to a blocked punt. They, in general, don’t really pay attention to the league and are stuck in 2002-2016 when they had the talent to match Belichick’s schemes. This Bills team isn’t just good enough to beat them, it’s good enough to bury them.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said:

That’s as typical of Pats fans as it gets. They missed the fact that the Bills D played Baltimore better than theirs did. Not to mention Dallas, Pittsburgh, the Dolphins (!!), Washington (!!) and the Pats only won the first game due to a blocked punt. They, in general, don’t really pay attention to the league and are stuck in 2002-2016 when they had the talent to match Belichick’s schemes. This Bills team isn’t just good enough to beat them, it’s good enough to bury them.

A blocked punt and a dirty hit on josh that knocked him out of the game. I still think we win the game at the end with Allen. Barkley made some nice throws but didn’t have Josh’s mobility to escape the rush

[PaattMaann]

I fully expect us to win this game. Period. We are better than them all around. Our defense has gotten better - against better teams for the record - and their defense has regressed. Still a good unit, but not the world beaters they were for the first 6 weeks. Our offense is better too, period. We just have to execute. We WILL win this game. 

 

Too many people are writing off week 17 as "no way the dolphins beat the Patriots". The dolphins have played the patriots better than any other team has over the past 5 seasons, and Flores has motivation, Fitz has motivation, every player on their team auditioning for a spot next year (dolphins or elsewhere) has motivation. And the Patriots are washed up...I think itll be a game with the dolphins having a real shot to win.

 

THIS WEEK IS HUGE! Go in and take care of business! 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I put this in the GMFB Love thread  but it belongs here as well 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

(psssst  lets not mention the loss to the 2-6 Browns)         

 

 

6-1 on the road so far!!! 

[plenzmd1]

61% of money on Bills right now..never a good trend , as public is always wrong. Having said that, i let that get in the way of betting the Bills last week, and now I am poorer for it!

 

I just took +240 on the Bills!

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

11 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

61% of money on Bills right now..never a good trend , as public is always wrong. Having said that, i let that get in the way of betting the Bills last week, and now I am poorer for it!

 

I just took +240 on the Bills!

 

LOL  the idea is for the public to be always wrong.  Vegas isn't perfect 

 

[foreboding]

On 12/16/2019 at 9:22 AM, BillsFanSD said:

We owe it to America to deny New England a first round bye.  Let's get it done.

Except one small area in the NE, the entire country will be rooting for our team Saturday.

On 12/16/2019 at 11:21 AM, aristocrat said:

how are the pats 6.5 favs?  The pats are not playing well on offense.  Not sure I think we should be favorites but man. 

The standard +3 at home and then +3.5 because we never, ever win there. It seems like a proper line.

[whatdrought]

 

We need some turnovers, and we need the offense to have a complete game!

[foreboding]

On 12/16/2019 at 1:04 PM, Nitro said:

Bills are ascending while NE is descending.  They are still a formidable foe.  The defense just as strong as the Bills.  Allen and the offense will have to be aggressive.  No three straight runs by Gore to the outside.   You can not waste downs in this game.  Play smart, secure the ball and accurate throws!  This can be a changing of the guard game.

I dunno. I think this will be another tight to the vest game by both teams. Play smart, turn-over free ball and take a few shots when they come. I see a low scoring affair. 

Bills 20, Pats 14

[billsfanmd07]

We are lucky the Dolphins are Playing FItz. Logic says they need to look at Rosen. This is a meaningless game for them anyway.

Edited December 18, 2019 by billsfanmd07

[plenzmd1]

4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

LOL  the idea is for the public to be always wrong.  Vegas isn't perfect 

 

Not quite sure what you mean? The public is generally wrong, but must say this is the first time I can remember the public not be hugely on the Pats side, but i have not really looked at them to much in this current 5 game stretch.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Not quite sure what you mean? The public is generally wrong, but must say this is the first time I can remember the public not be hugely on the Pats side, but i have not really looked at them to much in this current 5 game stretch.

 

what I meant was sometimes the masses are correct   that is why you see the Bills record 9-4-1 ATS

 

 

 

 

 

[plenzmd1]

4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

what I meant was sometimes the masses are correct   that is why you see the Bills record 9-4-1 ATS

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, sometimes they are! Most times they are not when it comes to NFL betting LOL! ATS record is not indicative of where the money was bet, but it sure would have been nice to be on the Bills all year! I was for a few key games this year..even bet them as the favorite at the Dolphins which i NEVER do..and the money line I hit  on the Cowboy was pretty juicy, as is this one! Lets Go!!!!!

 

Just to make it really interesting, will prolly do some moneyline parlay with the Sabres and Bills both winning that day..they play the Kings at 1PM that day

[buffaloboyinATL]

I REALLY believe this game could signify a changing of the guard in the AFC East if we play like we're capable and win big.  I would sure love to see it.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[whatdrought]

 

 

WTF with this statistic... That is freaking insane!!!! 

 

Also, Lorax better be back next year.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[whatdrought]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

*Process overflows*

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

Josh Allen was a guest interview earlier this morning with Adam Schein. I am just listening right now but

don't have a chance to give a summary. 

Edited December 18, 2019 by loveorhatembillsfan4life

[Big Turk]

Your time is up...our time is now...

 

You can't see us, our time is now...

 

Allen's the Franchise and he's shining now...

 

You can't see me, our time is now...

 

It's gonna be what it's gonna be...

 

Five pounds of courage buddy, blue pants with a white tee...

 

It's gonna be a war dance, a victory step...

 

Tre's raw stance is a gift and you insist it's our rep....

 

Brady, McDaniels y'all are so-so and talk about the rings...

 

But don't know the recipe for our D tho...

 

Talkin' trash to our sideline that's a no-no...

 

When the game pops, your lips lock, you'll be a blatant no-show...

 

See what happens when the Pats O-line melts...

 

You'll see the Bills D-Line doesn't need to be great but it helps...

 

Bills spent 20+ years seeking knowledge of self...

 

This Saturday they'll be earning national media wealth...

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2019 by matter2003

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1RDxlNQjwOOGL

 

 

 

[May Day 10]

2 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

That’s as typical of Pats fans as it gets. They missed the fact that the Bills D played Baltimore better than theirs did. Not to mention Dallas, Pittsburgh, the Dolphins (!!), Washington (!!) and the Pats only won the first game due to a blocked punt. They, in general, don’t really pay attention to the league and are stuck in 2002-2016 when they had the talent to match Belichick’s schemes. This Bills team isn’t just good enough to beat them, it’s good enough to bury them.

 

You can just tell that a lot of them pay almost no attention to 95% of the league (and why would they?).  Their NFL experience of the past 20 years (or the extent of many's fandom) is watching the Patriots walk out and get a win most of the time and regardless of opponent.  The season comes down to getting a 1st round bye, 2 playoff games and a Superbowl.  They have no idea what its like to worry, watch their team grind it out, come in as underdogs, etc.  Not to mention a season that is all but over in October.

 

Lots of people are in for a rude awakening when New England becomes a 'typical' NFL team. It will probably not be fun for many of them and they will lose interest.  Never has a group of fans gotten as spoiled and entitled as them.

Edited December 18, 2019 by May Day 10

[Logic]

2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

61% of money on Bills right now..never a good trend , as public is always wrong. Having said that, i let that get in the way of betting the Bills last week, and now I am poorer for it!

 

I just took +240 on the Bills!

Majority of public money was on Bills in the Steelers game, so the public isn't ALWAYS wrong...

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Facebook link to Sean McDermott Wednesday presser.  See also twitter link from SlimShady'sGhost above.

 

 

 

No changes to injury report - said he would answer questions if asked, I think the only Q was confirming Nsekhe and Liuget would not practice.

 

Not many questions about the Pats.  One asked if they were the most vulnerable they've ever been,  asked if it was the "next step" and what it would mean to finally beat the Pats, McD refused to engage.  Said we respect every opponent, prepare the right way every week, we're at 10 wins looking for #11.

 

Asked if Josh "owed" the Patriots for knocking him out, said no.   Plays happen bang bang, we've had some.  How do you avoid it being personal, be a professional, Josh is aprofessional.

 

Someone else seemed to ask if he had Brady figured out or something like that?  Weird question.  McD said just when you think you've got something figured out, you get your butt kicked, especially with Tom Brady, Tom will be Tom.

 

Any corrections/anything else of note?  McD slipped and said something about being ready on Sunday which bothered me, but slip of the tongue I assume.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

 

[PaattMaann]

19 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Facebook link to Sean McDermott Wednesday presser.  See also twitter link from SlimShady'sGhost above.

 

 

 

No changes to injury report - said he would answer questions if asked, I think the only Q was confirming Nsekhe and Liuget would not practice.

 

Not many questions about the Pats.  One asked if they were the most vulnerable they've ever been,  asked if it was the "next step" and what it would mean to finally beat the Pats, McD refused to engage.  Said we respect every opponent, prepare the right way every week, we're at 10 wins looking for #11.

 

Asked if Josh "owed" the Patriots for knocking him out, said no.   Plays happen bang bang, we've had some.  How do you avoid it being personal, be a professional, Josh is aprofessional.

 

Someone else seemed to ask if he had Brady figured out or something like that?  Weird question.  McD said just when you think you've got something figured out, you get your butt kicked, especially with Tom Brady, Tom will be Tom.

 

Any corrections/anything else of note?  McD slipped and said something about being ready on Sunday which bothered me, but slip of the tongue I assume.

 

To your bolded...

 

1) I dont think its a weird question. A lot has been said on social media/in the news about Tom Brady not playing well against McD defense since McD has gotten here (but is still undefeated against him)...so I think its a valid question, but of course McD is going to deflect and not engage

 

2) Don't let that bother you, just a simple slip. He has been saying Sunday about games forever, it happens. I tweeted yesterday about the game on "Sunday" until someone corrected me lol, it happens, we are used to it. 

 

Cheers! 

Edited December 18, 2019 by PaattMaann

[K-9]

15 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

 

 

 

 

Gotta love Tre White. Ya just gotta.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

 

To your bolded...

 

1) I dont think its a weird question. A lot has been said on social media/in the news about Tom Brady not playing well against McD defense since McD has gotten here (but is still undefeated against him)...so I think its a valid question, but of course McD is going to deflect and not engage

 

I guess I thought it was weird because we haven't beaten them...it seems to me defeating someone is a prerequisite to any claim of having them figured out.

I mean, I suppose any question is valid?  And I don't want to sound like a Debbie Downer.  I thought we played tough in our 10-16 loss earlier this season, but previously we've lost to the Pats by 20, 21,19, and 12 points which is a form of "not playing well" I would personally take?

 

1 minute ago, PaattMaann said:

2) Don't let that bother you, just a simple slip. He has been saying Sunday about games forever, it happens. I tweeted yesterday about the game on "Sunday" until someone corrected me lol, it happens, we are used to it.

 

Will try not to then

[PaattMaann]

8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I guess I thought it was weird because we haven't beaten them...it seems to me defeating someone is a prerequisite to any claim of having them figured out.

I mean, I suppose any question is valid?  And I don't want to sound like a Debbie Downer.  I thought we played tough in our 10-16 loss earlier this season, but previously we've lost to the Pats by 20, 21,19, and 12 points which is a form of "not playing well" I would personally take?

 

 

Will try not to then

 

yea I hear ya, and agree, but the facts remain that personally Tom Brady has not fared well against McD defenses. So I get the question. But as you say, their TEAM has still beat our team so McD was right to dismiss it. 

[CommonCents]

The hardcore Pats fans know that the end is here. You can see it on their faces. Let’s Gooooo! Can’t wait for Saturday. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

 

To your bolded...

 

1) I dont think its a weird question. A lot has been said on social media/in the news about Tom Brady not playing well against McD defense since McD has gotten here (but is still undefeated against him)...so I think its a valid question, but of course McD is going to deflect and not engage

 

2) Don't let that bother you, just a simple slip. He has been saying Sunday about games forever, it happens. I tweeted yesterday about the game on "Sunday" until someone corrected me lol, it happens, we are used to it. 

 

Cheers! 

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Any corrections/anything else of note?  McD slipped and said something about being ready on Sunday which bothered me, but slip of the tongue I assume.

 

maybe he wanted to confuse the Patriot spies in attendance !!!!! 

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

Gotta love Tre White. Ya just gotta.

 

How can you not.  

 

Any Bills fan that doesn't LOVE Tre' needs to have his or her fandom revoked for life