Gugny Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: They are catching a little bit of a break as Preston Williams, Drake(no longer with team), and surprising RB Walton..... I just don’t trust the Bills offense to put up points and our defense to shut any offense down. Their weaknesses defensively have been exposed. Doesn't this ever get boring to you? Seriously. Do you have other people writing the same old crap in 20 different threads per day? I can't imagine you could motivate yourself to do it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Gugny said: Doesn't this ever get boring to you? Seriously. Do you have other people writing the same old crap in 20 different threads per day? I can't imagine you could motivate yourself to do it alone. How do you not get tired of weekly predictions that THIS is the week the Bills are going to blow someone out? Nothing ScottLaw said was even remotely "crap," nor was it unreasonable. Saying "I just don't trust the Bills offense to put up points and our defense to shut any offense down," is NOT far-fetched at all. The offense hasn't had ONE SINGLE GAME where they played well for the full 60 minutes. Not one. There have been large stretches that have spanned at least an entire quarter or 2 where they struggle to even get a 1st down, let alone put up a FG. Often times the defense will even give them extra opportunities, or special teams will set us up in great field position, only for the offense to go backwards (whether via penalties, sacks, fumbles, etc.), turn it over or go 3 & out. And everyone knows we're having these struggles against the league's worst teams! It's not like these are hard fought battles against dominant opponents on the road...instead they're against teams like the Bengals, Browns, Titans, Jets, Dolphins, etc. and they're happening at home too! So why anyone would get upset when someone doesn't just automatically assume we're going to dominate an opponent every week is beyond me. What we have shown is that we're going to struggle offensively each week, and that our defense will do its bend-don't-break routine. We'll play neck & neck with bad opponents, and hope that we can do just enough by the end to escape with a victory. Anyone who predicts that should not be criticized at all. Just saying "I expect us to put up a bajillion points & Allen will have his first 300 yard game!" each week doesn't make it more likely to happen. You can't wish it hard enough into existence, so being critical of those who aren't saying absurdly optimistic/unrealistic things is just rude. Edited November 16, 2019 by BigDingus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Remember a few years ago when the Bills knocked the Jets (and Fitzpatrick) out of the playoffs in the last game of the season? Here is Fitz' chance for revenge (a loss all but knocks Buffalo out of serious playoff talk). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Any team needs to get turnovers to be dominate in any game, unless you have a team that is DOMINANT. The Bills don’t get turnovers, so how could they possibly dominate anyone? Is the O all of a sudden going to be explosive enough to dominate? Until proven otherwise, this game is going to be annoyingly close (like they all are). Miami and the points are a gift, of course, until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I hope so. This is the type of game the Bills need to impose their will on the Dolphins. No excuses, it’s week 10 and the offense needs to step up and play complimentary football to the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 57 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I hope so. This is the type of game the Bills need to impose their will on the Dolphins. No excuses, it’s week 10 and the offense needs to step up and play complimentary football to the defense. This game won't mean anything in the eyes of the media if we win. We need to take 2 of 3 from the following: Dallas, Baltimore, or the Pats to gain any recognition and credibility. Beating the Fins just fuels the same narrative we've heard all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 There is no way I think the Bills dominate this game. The truth is they aren't too far away from each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: There is no way I think the Bills dominate this game. The truth is they aren't too far away from each other. Bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I don’t. I actually think we may lose. This team has lost its mojo and should they turn the ball over a few times it could be a bad result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I believe they will score 3 TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 After reading about all the players the Fins have lost since the first Bills game, they had better. If they were ever going to let their hair down and go aggressive, this is the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 10:38 AM, BobBelcher said: Let me start by saying I’m not the type of fan you’re thinking of. There is not one game this season where I felt the Bills would cruise to victory (although I did have a pretty good feeling about the Giants game). It is more that I feel this team plays well, especially on offense, when there is a strong sense of urgency. For whatever reason, the Bills have not been able to play with that sense of urgency until the end of most games, and it is how they’ve won most of their games. heck as ugly as last weeks game was, it even happened there too. The offense took the lead with under 5 mins to play yet again. I believe the Browns game was a wake up call, the Bills know what is on the line here and you can hear it in the press conference we’ve heard so far this week. i think this translates to something we have been waiting to see all season, a Bills team that plays like the game is on the line for 4 full quarters, regardless of the score at any point in time. “coach sat us down and told us to play fearless” The most interesting quote from JA’s presser on Wednesday. To me, that means 4 quarters of a killer instinct on offense. Heck, I think we may even see the deep ball finally connect. The time has come to see what this offense can look like when they play a complete game and once we see that, it may even change our outlook in some of these “guaranteed losses” down the stretch this has nothing to do with underestimating Miami. In fact, I think this could very well be that game where the offense moves the ball and puts up points but we have to count on the defense to not allow Fitz to do the same to us. Fitz is one of the most unpredictable QBs I know and he is incredibly resilient so I am really really hoping we have the game plan to bring out “fitztragic”. After all, after the past month, that Fitz is overdue. To answer the question in the title...nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 8 hours ago, BigDingus said: How do you not get tired of weekly predictions that THIS is the week the Bills are going to blow someone out? Nothing ScottLaw said was even remotely "crap," nor was it unreasonable. Saying "I just don't trust the Bills offense to put up points and our defense to shut any offense down," is NOT far-fetched at all. The offense hasn't had ONE SINGLE GAME where they played well for the full 60 minutes. Not one. There have been large stretches that have spanned at least an entire quarter or 2 where they struggle to even get a 1st down, let alone put up a FG. Often times the defense will even give them extra opportunities, or special teams will set us up in great field position, only for the offense to go backwards (whether via penalties, sacks, fumbles, etc.), turn it over or go 3 & out. And everyone knows we're having these struggles against the league's worst teams! It's not like these are hard fought battles against dominant opponents on the road...instead they're against teams like the Bengals, Browns, Titans, Jets, Dolphins, etc. and they're happening at home too! So why anyone would get upset when someone doesn't just automatically assume we're going to dominate an opponent every week is beyond me. What we have shown is that we're going to struggle offensively each week, and that our defense will do its bend-don't-break routine. We'll play neck & neck with bad opponents, and hope that we can do just enough by the end to escape with a victory. Anyone who predicts that should not be criticized at all. Just saying "I expect us to put up a bajillion points & Allen will have his first 300 yard game!" each week doesn't make it more likely to happen. You can't wish it hard enough into existence, so being critical of those who aren't saying absurdly optimistic/unrealistic things is just rude. I haven't predicted a blow-out win, yet. In fact, I told multiple people that I thought the Bills would lose to Cleveland. I didn't say anything was far-fetched. I think it's being discussed in plenty of threads that both our O and D have pretty much sucked since the bye. But that doesn't mean it needs to be stated in every goddamn thread, every goddamn day. Buffalo, under McDermott, isn't going to dominate many, if any, teams. We all know this. Most of us know Buffalo isn't a high-scoring offense and that Allen doesn't throw for a ton of yards. My criticism isn't about the prediction. It's about the crusade. I hope this clears things up. Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: I hope this clears things up. What in tarnation are you yammering on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: What in tarnation are you yammering on about? I should know better than to start typing before I finish my first cup of coffee. I was just trying to say I'm sick of crusades. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I've actually thought the bills would dominate every game since they first played the Dolphins, and boy have I been wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, the skycap said: I believe they will score 3 TDs. Same here; I'm just not sure which "they" will do it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 we'd be lucky to win another squeaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Gugny said: I should know better than to start typing before I finish my first cup of coffee. I was just trying to say I'm sick of crusades. two very indisputable truths for all of us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Nope. Hasnt happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I haven't predicted a blow-out win, yet. In fact, I told multiple people that I thought the Bills would lose to Cleveland. I didn't say anything was far-fetched. I think it's being discussed in plenty of threads that both our O and D have pretty much sucked since the bye. But that doesn't mean it needs to be stated in every goddamn thread, every goddamn day. Buffalo, under McDermott, isn't going to dominate many, if any, teams. We all know this. Most of us know Buffalo isn't a high-scoring offense and that Allen doesn't throw for a ton of yards. My criticism isn't about the prediction. It's about the crusade. I hope this clears things up. Go Bills. If these things are true, whey aren't we looking to move on from both men immediately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: If these things are true, whey aren't we looking to move on from both men immediately? Because Rome wasn't built in a day and moving on from a coaching staff and a QB after 20 starts together is a ludicrous notion. Had there been no forward progress in that period of time, I think most rational fans would be likely to agree that it may be time to look elsewhere. But there has been forward progress and, to me, it would be silly to give up on them - especially Allen - so soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: Because Rome wasn't built in a day and moving on from a coaching staff and a QB after 20 starts together is a ludicrous notion. Had there been no forward progress in that period of time, I think most rational fans would be likely to agree that it may be time to look elsewhere. But there has been forward progress and, to me, it would be silly to give up on them - especially Allen - so soon. Anyone who's calling for a QB change now had beef when he was picked, period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I hope so. This is the type of game the Bills need to impose their will on the Dolphins. No excuses, it’s week 10 and the offense needs to step up and play complimentary football to the defense. its the NFL its a road game Miami is usually a tough place to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I feel like this game is going to be a blow-out 1 way or another. We either come in & kick butt or we self destruct. Blow-Out! Let’s Go Buffalo!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, BuffaloFan68 said: I feel like this game is going to be a blow-out 1 way or another. We either come in & kick butt or we self destruct. Blow-Out! Let’s Go Buffalo!!!!! Welcome to watching the Bills, don’t bet the farm on them playing near your vaunted expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) I hope they come out in desperation mode like the Browns and Eagles did against us. This is actually a really important game W we must get if we are legit to make the playoffs. Let's see what Bills team show's up. I see this being a close game and redemption for Haush $$$ 21-27 Bills! Edited November 16, 2019 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I should know better than to start typing before I finish my first cup of coffee. I was just trying to say I'm sick of crusades. You do need coffee. Typically you would lamb baste me for axing another stupid question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Would be the first time all year so I would say no if i had to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Anyone who's calling for a QB change now had beef when he was picked, period. Don't need a QB change but how about calling plays that fit his strength. Let him use his legs to his advantage. The faster they let him loose and see what they have the better. His short game may have gotten better but his playmaking ability and long ball have regressed. IMO Allen will never be a great pocket passer. He makes his best plays when he rolls out of the pocket and making plays on the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I could see it going like the Giants game where it will look like we will cruise to victory at some point in the second quarter. But then in the fourth the Dolphins will cut it to six or seven points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: I hope they come out in desperation mode like the Browns and Eagles did against us. This is actually a really important game W we much get if we are legit to make the playoffs. Let's see what Bills team show's up. I see this being a close game and redemption for Haush $$$ 21-27 Bills! ...well, we're gonna play "fearless" right?.....no Dickey Jauron "fearful not to lose" ball.....so no slow run D start from Frazier's gang, surrendering 100 yds early..........no cutesy crap from Dabumble as in challenging Fins' 30th ranked run defense or 3rd quarter lethargy.....high level clock management and challenge flags discretion....we should be in good shape....see y'all at 4:05 on Sunday...... Edited November 16, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Anyone who's calling for a QB change now had beef when he was picked, period. 100% agree. In fact, Josh Allen is ahead of schedule IMO. Still a lot to improve on. Mainly need more consistency out of him. But I really like what I have seen from him so far. He was the biggest project coming out of the draft but so far he's held his own among his peers. Arguably the second best QB from his draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I hope they do, I’m picking a win in the 10-15 point range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...well, we're gonna play "fearless" right?.....no Dickey Jauron "fearful not to lose" ball.....so no slow run D start from Frazier's gang, surrendering 100 yds early..........no cutesy crap from Dabumble as in challenging Fins' 30th ranked run defense or 3rd quarter lethargy.....high level clock management and challenge flags discretion....we should be in good shape....see y'all at 4:05 on Sunday...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: This game won't mean anything in the eyes of the media if we win. We need to take 2 of 3 from the following: Dallas, Baltimore, or the Pats to gain any recognition and credibility. Beating the Fins just fuels the same narrative we've heard all year. True. I think the Bills win the next two then win 1 of the four ‘hard games’. I want it to be Dallas so Thanksgiving is more peaceful. Then the Bills beat the Jets and get into the playoffs with the 5th seed. I don’t really think the media is off base not believing in the Bills yet. Buffalo is still searching for a signature win. The good news is they will have plenty of opportunities to get that win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: True. I think the Bills win the next two then win 1 of the four ‘hard games’. I want it to be Dallas so Thanksgiving is more peaceful. Then the Bills beat the Jets and get into the playoffs with the 5th seed. I don’t really think the media is off base not believing in the Bills yet. Buffalo is still searching for a signature win. The good news is they will have plenty of opportunities to get that win. Would make the day and weekend so much more enjoyable. Edited November 16, 2019 by Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: ...um ok...got my rosary beads, Bourbon, Depends and popcorn ready...... 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Real McCoy said: Would make the day and weekend so much more enjoyable. I’m hoping that turns out to be like the Atlanta game a few years ago where Buffalo went on the road and made plays to steal a win. Edited November 17, 2019 by atlbillsfan1975 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...um ok...got my rosary beads, Bourbon, Depends and popcorn ready...... jaded and waiting for the other shoe to drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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