ProcessTruster Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The Bills were incredibly bad the first half of last season , but were a much better, much more competitive 4-4 team the second half. I would argue Bills were an above .500 team exiting last season (which I guess is supported by how this season has gone so far) . Concerned that fans compare W-L records now at the halfway mark and assume the better record team is going to win going forward. I am asserting that is not a good idea. Anyone have stats on W-L record by half season? For example, forget their records, the Browns, Phins, Broncos and Jets will likely be better the second half of the season. By the same token, the Ravens, Cowboys and Pats won't be locks as teams get lots of film on what they did the first half of the season. I guess by this logic, I am imagining all Bills games are winnable (and lose-able) going forward. Eg, I could see us losing to the Dolphins (who are playing even better now than when they had us beat b4 TWhite bailed us out), but beating the Ravens, Steelers and Pats (who we had beat until Josh was cheap shotted out of the game) who cannot keep doing what they are doing as defenses/offenses figure them out based on 1st half of season. Just a thought b4 everyone starts guaranteeing wins and losses. thoughts? go bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Uhhh. 10-6. Can you do the math for me please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Dolphins - win Broncos - win Cowboys - loss Ravens - loss Steelers - loss Patriots - loss Jets - win 9-7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Miami - L Denver - W Dallas - L Baltimore - L Pittsburgh - L NE - L Jets - W 8-8 I have a feeling we will lose one of the W's in that bunch, but win one of the L's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Let's see.... 1 season = 16 games 16 ÷ 2 = 8 games would be the halfway mark 6 + 3 = 9 games so far Can't compute! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) when I seen this thread, I had to laugh. I think I predicted 9-7 or 10-6 at the beginning of the season, didn't go through each game w/l's but that was based off 16 games. well, I guess if you're saying these last 7 games. lets see, they would need to win 4 more and lose 3 more to get to 10-6. 4-3 Edited November 14, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Looper said: Dolphins - win Broncos - win Cowboys - loss Ravens - loss Steelers - loss Patriots - loss Jets - win 9-7 Steelers to me are 50/50- hopefully we steal that one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Steelers to me are 50/50- hopefully we steal that one. I think out of the 4 games Cowboys, Ravens, Steelers, and Pats there is one win in there somewhere. The question for the Bills will be can they win the next two games? If they can take care of the Fins and Broncos I think they can take a game against one of those 4 opponents and then take care of the Jets at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I think out of the 4 games Cowboys, Ravens, Steelers, and Pats there is one win in there somewhere. The question for the Bills will be can they win the next two games? If they can take care of the Fins and Broncos I think they can take a game against one of those 4 opponents and then take care of the Jets at home. That is exactly my thought process too and how I see it. We will all gain a little confidence with a good showing in Miami and a W. A loss in Miami most likely ends any hopes of playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3-4 at best but probably 2-5 is more realistic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: That is exactly my thought process too and how I see it. We will all gain a little confidence with a good showing in Miami and a W. A loss in Miami most likely ends any hopes of playoffs. If the Bills can't win against the Fins and home against the Broncos then they don't deserve to make the playoffs. The Bills desperately need to get to 8-3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I’m still going with 10-6....would not shock me to see the team finish 8-8 though. Still not sold on Josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I really do think we'll finish 10-6. I think we'll get the next two, the Jets, and one of those nasty four. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I've had us at 10-6 or maybe even 11-5 for a while, leading up to the Browns game. Post Browns, I am now downgrading to 8-8, 9-7, or maybe 10-6. I actually think it is going to be 9-7 and we miss the playoffs, which is unbelievable if it happens. But no need to go there now; still lots of football to be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10-6. Miami, Pittsburgh, NY, Denver wins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I will pontificate on such a query as my reputation in TBD could be severely tarnished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10-6. Wins against Fish, Broncos, Steelers, Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said: ? Agreed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: I will pontificate on such a query as my reputation in TBD could be severely tarnished. And....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: And....? Jeeezz !.....don't rush me. I said I'm pontificating. ? Edited November 14, 2019 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Looper said: Dolphins - win loss Broncos - win loss Cowboys - loss Ravens - loss Steelers - loss Patriots - loss Jets - win loss 9-7 6-10 Scott Law, I mean Jerry Sullivan, fixed it for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 You should add a poll for this rather than a bunch of the same single line answers with records. My thoughts at 0-1 through the back half: MIA: hot right now, or at least as hot as a 2 win team can be. They are not an easy out. Probable WIN DEN: They are a very good defense, I expect this to be much closer than it should be. If we beat MIA I think we win this one. If we lose against MIA we lose this. WIN DAL: People have this as a blow out. Dallas has been hot and cold. Bills do not match up well. I think whoever has the momentum coming into this game wins. 50-50 BAL: Super hot right now. If they can cool down and BUF can contain Lamar, they can win. Chances are low though. LOSS Steelers - Steelers have been hot for a while now. I think this is sort of who we wish the Bills were. Season on the line here. 50-50 Patriots - Brady and co. have a history of not making the same mistake twice LOSS and it won't be close Jets - WIN If we can not play down to MIA and get some offense against a very good DEN defense, we are in a good spot. If we play down to them and drop one, I think we drop both of the 50-50 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 10-6 without Levi Wallace playing 7-9 with Levi Wallace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I really do think we'll finish 10-6. I think we'll get the next two, the Jets, and one of those nasty four. We absolutely need that 1 of 4 stretch to be Pittsburgh. I think if we do something like beat Dallas and lose to Pittsburgh, we might miss the playoffs all together. If Pittsburgh gets through CLE-CIN-CLE (the AFCN plays each other tough regardless of how trash some can be), even with a loss to ARI, we would go into Hienz field 8-5 vs. 8-5 most likely. We will need the head to head come week 17. I think our best shot to the playoffs is winning the next 2, beating Dallas (more of a chance to steal that game than NE or BAL right now) and Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Mango said: We absolutely need that 1 of 4 stretch to be Pittsburgh. I think if we do something like beat Dallas and lose to Pittsburgh, we might miss the playoffs all together. If Pittsburgh gets through CLE-CIN-CLE (the AFCN plays each other tough regardless of how trash some can be), even with a loss to ARI, we would go into Hienz field 8-5 vs. 8-5 most likely. We will need the head to head come week 17. I think our best shot to the playoffs is winning the next 2, beating Dallas (more of a chance to steal that game than NE or BAL right now) and Pittsburgh. I don't see us going on the road and beating Pittsburgh on their field. How many times have we done that in our franchise history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 If we go 4-3 the rest of the way we are almost 100% in, if we only go 3-4 it becomes 50-50 per NYT playoff tracker. We need to beat Mia, Den, NYJ and win 1 of the 4 tough games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: If the Bills can't win against the Fins and home against the Broncos then they don't deserve to make the playoffs. The Bills desperately need to get to 8-3. Truth! They best saddle up starting right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Nextmanup said: I don't see us going on the road and beating Pittsburgh on their field. How many times have we done that in our franchise history? 4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: If we go 4-3 the rest of the way we are almost 100% in, if we only go 3-4 it becomes 50-50 per NYT playoff tracker. We need to beat Mia, Den, NYJ and win 1 of the 4 tough games. If you go straight win percentage/favorites, Buffalo right now puts us into the playoffs. If we swap Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh to a loss, winning any other game, regardless of NE, BAL, DAL, we miss the playoffs entirely because we lose the head to head against Pitt. It is a must win...assuming the favorites do what they are supposed to do right now. We needed the CLE game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I don't see us going on the road and beating Pittsburgh on their field. How many times have we done that in our franchise history? I totally get what you’re saying. I remember feeling sorry for Andre Reed on a shallow cross getting beaten like a baby seal. It looked like an assault charge! I’m not sure if Andre would remember it. That bad! However, it’s never been THIS YEAR before. Times change. I’m not saying we will do it, just that history does not dictate the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Truth! They best saddle up starting right now. Losing either of those games would require us to beat Pittsburgh and steal Baltimore or New England. I believe the way the AFC is projected to fall right now (just via favorites), an NFC win would not be enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Mango said: If you go straight win percentage/favorites, Buffalo right now puts us into the playoffs. If we swap Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh to a loss, winning any other game, regardless of NE, BAL, DAL, we miss the playoffs entirely because we lose the head to head against Pitt. It is a must win...assuming the favorites do what they are supposed to do right now. We needed the CLE game. Couldn't agree more with the bolded! But because it is a must win for playoff purposes doesn't mean it is actually going to be a win. Needless to say, I hope I'm wrong. I had the Cleveland game penciled in as a W all year long. That game really threw a wrench into the gears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mango said: If you go straight win percentage/favorites, Buffalo right now puts us into the playoffs. If we swap Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh to a loss, winning any other game, regardless of NE, BAL, DAL, we miss the playoffs entirely because we lose the head to head against Pitt. It is a must win...assuming the favorites do what they are supposed to do right now. We needed the CLE game. I think if we can't win the 3 we should and 1 of the 4 then we don't deserve it anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Nextmanup said: Couldn't agree more with the bolded! But because it is a must win for playoff purposes doesn't mean it is actually going to be a win. Needless to say, I hope I'm wrong. I had the Cleveland game penciled in as a W all year long. That game really threw a wrench into the gears. It is actually pretty wild that for a team that started so hot, they seem to have their backs against the wall in a way at 6-3 down the stretch. Worth noting, via choosing win % in the playoff calculator, both AFC wild card teams are projected at 11-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I started this year thinking 9 wins. If we got 10 I’d be happy. Any more and I’m thrilled. Still have holes to fill, and guys who need to get up to speed. As others have said, disappointment comes from expectations that might be too lofty. I’m still feeling fine. If we come up short, it won’t materially affect my life. I’ll be bummed, but I’ll carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I think if we can't win the 3 we should and 1 of the 4 then we don't deserve it anyway. I think we are on the same page here. I am just saying it isn't going 1-3 through the teeth of the schedule. I think it absolutely has to be Pittsburgh. Dallas, NE, or Baltimore, doesn't really do us any good without Pittsburgh dropping an additional game. Now if Cleveland can find a way to beat Pittsburgh, that changes a lot of things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: I totally get what you’re saying. I remember feeling sorry for Andre Reed on a shallow cross getting beaten like a baby seal. It looked like an assault charge! I’m not sure if Andre would remember it. That bad! However, it’s never been THIS YEAR before. Times change. I’m not saying we will do it, just that history does not dictate the next game. Of course past outcomes don't dictate future results, but patterns can be used for predictive purposes. That aside, there is almost always a sure loss game that turns out to be a win game. Maybe that can be the case in Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Dolphins - win Broncos - win Cowboys - loss Ravens - loss Steelers - win Patriots - loss Jets - win 10-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mango said: It is actually pretty wild that for a team that started so hot, they seem to have their backs against the wall in a way at 6-3 down the stretch. Worth noting, via choosing win % in the playoff calculator, both AFC wild card teams are projected at 11-5. I wish I hadn't seen that. That's not good. Let's hope that turns out to be wrong. I don't see us winning more than 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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