Niagara Dude Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 This team just does not get enough turnovers, where are strip sacks or fumbles? Starts with defensive cordinator Frazier, not enough blitzes or coaching our players to attack the football to force fumbles. Seems like our offence is always having to go the full length of field to score points. One of the best ways to help a young QB is give him a short field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 They got a short field after the STs takeaway and did zilch.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Eh, they just got some off Miami last week. That was a good game plan by Philly and a good offensive minded coach. Wentz played smart. The balm didn’t bounce the Bills way today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 No pressure means no turnovers . Our pass rush sucks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: This team just does not get enough turnovers, where are strip sacks or fumbles? Starts with defensive cordinator Frazier, not enough blitzes or coaching our players to attack the football to force fumbles. Seems like our offence is always having to go the full length of field to score points. One of the best ways to help a young QB is give him a short field Lack of pressure and not stopping the run makes it hard to get turnovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: No pressure means no turnovers . Our pass rush sucks Frazier loves playing bend but don't break, our defense needs to be more aggressive and start getting turnovers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 They need to stop the run. If they don't stop the run they can get all the turnovers they want. They aren't winning when teams just run the ball down their throat AT HOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: They got a short field after the STs takeaway and did zilch.... That was not our defense, when have we forced a fumble or strip sacked the QB? Like i thought the first round pick Oliver was suppose to cause havoc and make plays, great/elite defenses make big plays and cause turnovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Hughes has basically been invisible on pass rush. He’s all we really have there. Don’t get consistent enough pressure and sacks on a QB to force turnovers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, TheProcess said: Hughes has basically been invisible on pass rush. He’s all we really have there. Don’t get consistent enough pressure and sacks on a QB to force turnovers. This. Hughes has been very average or below average. No one is beating their man. We need a pass rusher badly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: This team just does not get enough turnovers, where are strip sacks or fumbles? Starts with defensive cordinator Frazier, not enough blitzes or coaching our players to attack the football to force fumbles. Seems like our offence is always having to go the full length of field to score points. One of the best ways to help a young QB is give him a short field Offense also needs to score more points. Why does Josh Allen constantly need more “help?” Can he or will he ever help himself? More excuse making. Tre White saved the game last week with 2 turnovers. Edited October 27, 2019 by JoPar_v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: This. Hughes has been very average or below average. No one is beating their man. We need a pass rusher badly. Jerry seems to get tied up a lot now. I don’t see him getting an edge on tackles anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: That was not our defense, when have we forced a fumble or strip sacked the QB? Like i thought the first round pick Oliver was suppose to cause havoc and make plays, great/elite defenses make big plays and cause turnovers No kidding, but it was a short field. I’d love to see more takeaways, but this probably wasn’t going to be a game where they could get many anyway. The wind kept things close to the vest, and the Bills could not man up today in that style. This defense is good, but not elite. They don’t have a star DT or pass rusher yet to give them lots of those plays. Their offense doesn’t score much, so teams can play a safer style too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: This. Hughes has been very average or below average. No one is beating their man. We need a pass rusher badly. Passes to backs are because QB'S have time to look through first and second options, way too much time. I know Sean took over defensive play calling from Frazier at one point last season for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’m more worried about the defense stopping the run up the middle at this point. Teams are gonna catch on and game plan for that. Long drives wear them down, and you can’t blame the O for that. Our O is in the building process so sitting on the bench doesn’t help them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’ll settle for a MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, BananaB said: I’m more worried about the defense stopping the run up the middle at this point. Teams are gonna catch on and game plan for that. Long drives wear them down, and you can’t blame the O for that. Our O is in the building process so sitting on the bench doesn’t help them out This.. The blueprint is out there now. Philthy saw it watching the Miami game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, BananaB said: I’m more worried about the defense stopping the run up the middle at this point. Teams are gonna catch on and game plan for that. Long drives wear them down, and you can’t blame the O for that. Our O is in the building process so sitting on the bench doesn’t help them out yeah 66 yards up the guy for a TD. With your 10M space eating DT two yards blown off the ball on his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 36 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Hughes has basically been invisible on pass rush. He’s all we really have there. Don’t get consistent enough pressure and sacks on a QB to force turnovers. Hughes was invisible today and basically has been all year. Murphy & Lawson are mediocre pass rushers and Lorax is starting to show his age. We will need DL/DE help next year. Not sure if Ed is really a 1 tech? All I know is we got shredded on the ground last week & today. The LB positioning will also have to be addressed...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Hughes has basically been invisible on pass rush. He’s all we really have there. Don’t get consistent enough pressure and sacks on a QB to force turnovers. Invisible against a rookie LT too. Not good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, Azucho98 said: Invisible against a rookie LT too. Not good. Exactly. How many reports do we hear during training camp about Jerry Hughes wrecking practice? For years now. When has that translated to the regular season since when we had Kyle, Dareus, and Mario? Look, I’m not putting it all on him. He doesn’t have much help. But eventually the excuses need to stop. The great ones still find ways to make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 We are getting good pressure when blitzing but it leaves the screen open. The front 4 is not doing well when using regular pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 We need to bring the blitz. We can cover on the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I forgot we even had Jerry Hughes until you guys mentioned him. He’s been a ghost this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Too many holes on this team. Beane is not doing a good job building a competitive roster. Mix that with hyper conservative coaching and you get the 2019 Bills. ♾ 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Pats bring pressure relentlessly especially on third down Its how they generate a league leading amount of turnovers giving Old man Brady a short field. How many third and longs they allow today? It was a ton and by the end they were beaten up and gassed Mr space eater Star Lotulelei isnt getting it done Edge guys dont win and the few times they get the edge they whiff on the finish Only pressure has been from Phillips right up the gut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 No reason we can't blitz more to create pressure ala the Pats. Stopping the run up the gut is going to be the bigger issue. DT and MLB issues need to be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: They got a short field after the STs takeaway and did zilch.... This. IMO there were four key turning points in the game. One of them was the ST takeaway/short field. If we capitalized then it’s a different game. Instead, we did nothing, and the Eagles responded with a back-breaking 8+ minute drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloBillsFanFromItaly Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 We need to stop the run, once we accomplish this QB will be lead to force something and turnovers will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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