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6 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

 

 

I’m not certain what the reason is, but a 3 way tie at 10-6 with the Texans , Bills, and Titans including a Titans sweep of HOU knocks the Bills out in my scenarios on playoff machine( ESPN). It doesn’t give explanations that I know of, and I haven’t reviewed tiebreaking procedures to figure it out. Seems to be one of the few situations the Bills could miss out in. Edit: this is factoring in a Bills loss to PIT 

 

Tenn would win the division over Houston due to beating them twice.  Houston would get the wildcard against Buffalo because of a better conference record.

 

 I think the Steelers and Raiders would both get the wildcard over us at 10-6 also, unless the bills 10th win is against the steelers.  

 

Bills have tiebreakers over Tenn & Indy.  

 

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16 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I was just going to post that now Dalton is back in he can do us a favor again this year haha.

He already did...He has knocked out a resurgent NY Jets team who were dreaming of a post season after 3 straight *dominating* victories.

 

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5 hours ago, Adam727 said:

 

Tenn would win the division over Houston due to beating them twice.  Houston would get the wildcard against Buffalo because of a better conference record.

 

 I think the Steelers and Raiders would both get the wildcard over us at 10-6 also, unless the bills 10th win is against the steelers.  

 

Bills have tiebreakers over Tenn & Indy.  

 


to be redundant.  
I think Houston is the better team.

They may split the matchups but take the division.  
 


Re Steelers- beat them flat out and Bobs your uncle 

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There are a couple worst case scenario's where a 3 game slide has us needing a win and some help to make the playoffs in week 17. Would love to beat the Ravens this week to eliminate any such scenario. 

 

I have a pretty good feeling about the Pittsburgh game though. I think the switch to prime time actually helps both our offense and defense. Pittsburgh plays like five prime time games a year so I don't see them getting a motivation bump like our guys will. When the game was scheduled for the early 1pm kick off I saw potential for it to be like the Browns game. One we let slip away.

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9 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

There are a couple worst case scenario's where a 3 game slide has us needing a win and some help to make the playoffs in week 17. Would love to beat the Ravens this week to eliminate any such scenario. 

 

I have a pretty good feeling about the Pittsburgh game though. I think the switch to prime time actually helps both our offense and defense. Pittsburgh plays like five prime time games a year so I don't see them getting a motivation bump like our guys will. When the game was scheduled for the early 1pm kick off I saw potential for it to be like the Browns game. One we let slip away.

I think both teams will be motivated regardless of the time slot. The prime time thing will just mean a more raucous crowd and tougher sledding for the Bills if anything. It would be great to beat the Ravens, but I actually think the scenario you described needing the week 17 win is a fairly realistic one. They may or may not need help based on the outcomes of games in weeks 14-16. That mostly hinges on the Titans and Raiders. Steelers are well coached , play good defense and can win with a “ caretaker” at QB. 

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32 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Crap.  I thought this was the other way around... 

 

The Chiefs are playing in New England.   I should have known better.  The Putz always get these types of match ups on their turf.  

 

 

yep.  Mahomes gonna have a lot of derrrrpppp moments.

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On 12/3/2019 at 11:25 AM, RiotAct said:

yep.  Mahomes gonna have a lot of derrrrpppp moments.

eh Maybe.   

The Pats defense may be good.  I just don't buy that they are the best.  JMO

 

On 12/3/2019 at 11:34 AM, Jamie Nails said:

So, do we want the titans or raiders this weekend? I’m thinking, without running scenarios, we want the titans. We have the tie breaker and they have a tough last three games. 

Do you want separation or a close race? Pick your poison I guess

 

Shady's AFC guesses   (On games I don't deem important to have a real impact I'm just going with who I want to won for no particular reason) 

 

Thursday, December 5    
MATCHUP
HOME team NAT TV
Dallas Chicago FOX/NFL
Sunday, December 8    
MATCHUP
   
Baltimore Buffalo CBS
Kansas City New England CBS
Denver Houston CBS
Indianapolis Tampa Bay CBS
Los Angeles Chargers Jacksonville FOX
Tennessee Oakland CBS
Pittsburgh Arizona CBS
Miami New York JETS CBS
Cincinnati Cleveland CBS
     
Carolina Atlanta FOX
Washington Green Bay FOX
Detroit Minnesota FOX
San Francisco New Orleans FOX
Seattle Los Angeles Rams NBC
     
Monday, December 9    
New York Giants Philadelphia ESPN
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1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Crap.  I thought this was the other way around... 

 

The Chiefs are playing in New England.   I should have known better.  The Putz always get these types of match ups on their turf.  

 

 

Not really. it's the same formula that sent them to Watson's house, where they pooped their pants two days ago. 

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2019/12/03/nfl-playoff-picture-heading-into-week-14/#3b12fd996b48

 

Buffalo Bills: As one of the most-surprising teams in the NFL, the 9-3 Bills can clinch a spot in the postseason with a win over the Ravens as well as losses by the Texans, Raiders and Colts.

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4 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

You call it a "formula"  I call it Pats**** favoritism 

 

You're joking right? The rotation is completely set for all teams indefinitely far into the future. You can figure out the Bills 2035 opponents and where each game is, except for 2 of them, and even then you'd know if those games are home/away

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40 minutes ago, arcane said:

You're joking right? The rotation is completely set for all teams indefinitely far into the future. You can figure out the Bills 2035 opponents and where each game is, except for 2 of them, and even then you'd know if those games are home/away

 

yes, they rotate divisions and have a formula.
 

BUT each owner does get to appeal the schedule and have it altered 

 

Ralph Wilson did it often saying a night game was a burden to his teams fan base.  
 

the opponents are set.  Not where they play.

 

How many years did Buffalo face the Patriots after a BYE?

 

the formula is supposed to account for it yet 7 out of 10 times it happened.  
 

the formula is supposed to keep a team on a 3 game road trip yet it happens. 
 

nothing is perfect 

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3 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

yes, they rotate divisions and have a formula.
 

BUT each owner does get to appeal the schedule and have it altered 

 

Ralph Wilson did it often saying a night game was a burden to his teams fan base.  
 

the opponents are set.  Not where they play.

 

How many years did Buffalo face the Patriots after a BYE?

 

the formula is supposed to account for it yet 7 out of 10 times it happened.  
 

the formula is supposed to keep a team on a 3 game road trip yet it happens. 
 

nothing is perfect 

You were referring to the benefit of the Pats getting a home game against the Chiefs. But if that game had been on the road, the TEXANS game would have been at home, which could have been painted just as difficult. This isn't a schedule advantage. They have to face the 1 seed from the two AFC divisions we don't face, two presumably great teams, one at home, one on the road, every season. We do the same, but split them between 2nd, 3rd, or 4th ranked teams in their division. You weren't talking about bye weeks, and are ignoring the fact that there's no way NE would want to waste a bye week before a team they can historically beat in their sleep over one they could actually use preparation for.

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15 minutes ago, arcane said:

You were referring to the benefit of the Pats getting a home game against the Chiefs. But if that game had been on the road, the TEXANS game would have been at home, which could have been painted just as difficult. This isn't a schedule advantage. They have to face the 1 seed from the two AFC divisions we don't face, two presumably great teams, one at home, one on the road, every season. We do the same, but split them between 2nd, 3rd, or 4th ranked teams in their division. You weren't talking about bye weeks, and are ignoring the fact that there's no way NE would want to waste a bye week before a team they can historically beat in their sleep over one they could actually use preparation for.


yea I did mention that. 
 

it just seems to me that the Pats end up with the more beneficial draw.  
 

coincidence?  Maybe or .... 

 

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Start at 2:20 

Power Rankings - Wild card contenders to fear

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/video/power-rankings-wild-card-contenders-234230294.html

 

Tank Williams and Chris Simms rank the top NFL teams competing for Wild Card spots that could cause damage in the playoffs

I think Tank is a little high on the Titans 

 

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8 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said:

Was messing around with the ESPN playoff  machine and can see how we miss being 10-6 with the raiders and Steelers being 10-6 as well 

 

As was I and It looks as if the only team that might be able to rest starters in week 17 is the Saints. (as long as my picks / guesses are correct) 

 

NFC SF vs Seattle , Tenny vs Houston, Steelers vs Ravens Chargers vs KC.

 

This weeks KEY GAMES to that really could throw the AFC on its collective heads ...   Buffalo over Baltimore and KC over New England!!!!  The ramifications in the final 3 weeks are HUGE.    I really believe the Bills can defeat the struggling Pats**** 

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9 hours ago, Jamie Nails said:

 

Raiders have a favorable schedule, but they aren’t winning out. 

 

The Raiders just got smoked two weeks in a row including one by the hapless Jets. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Titans win at Oakland this Sunday. Oakland isn't good enough to win out and I don't care who they are playing.

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47 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

The Raiders just got smoked two weeks in a row including one by the hapless Jets. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Titans win at Oakland this Sunday. Oakland isn't good enough to win out and I don't care who they are playing.

 

Favorable or not, them winning out won't be easy. Hell it could be that they lose 3 of the next 4. 

 

Titans - Not easy  - I expect a L there 

Jaguars  - Not easy  - More Minshew Magic? 

@ Chargers  - Not easy - I expect a L there 

@ Broncos  - Not easy  - I expect a L there 

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9 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

Favorable or not, them winning out won't be easy. Hell it could be that they lose 3 of the next 4. 

 

Titans - Not easy  - I expect a L there 

Jaguars  - Not easy  - More Minshew Magic? 

@ Chargers  - Not easy - I expect a L there 

@ Broncos  - Not easy  - I expect a L there 

 

Who is left that the Bills have to worry about. For argument's sake lets say Pats, Ravens, Chiefs, Texans win their divisions which most likely happens anyway. Bills at #5 and Steelers #6. You have the Titans at 7-5 but the Bills own the tiebreaker and the Colts at 6-6. Are these the only two teams left who are still in the hunt for a WC spot. I know the Raiders are 6-6 but the good thing is the Titans and Raiders play this week so someone loses. The only concern is do the Bills finish #5 or #6 depending on that Steelers game. The Titans still have 2 games left with the Texans which won't be easy. The Colts still have to play at NO which is most likely a loss. Bottom line the Bills are in a great spot here.

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2 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Who is left that the Bills have to worry about. For argument's sake lets say Pats, Ravens, Chiefs, Texans win their divisions which most likely happens anyway. Bills at #5 and Steelers #6. You have the Titans at 7-5 but the Bills own the tiebreaker and the Colts at 6-6. Are these the only two teams left who are still in the hunt for a WC spot. I know the Raiders are 6-6 but the good thing is the Titans and Raiders play this week so someone loses. The only concern is do the Bills finish #5 or #6 depending on that Steelers game. The Titans still have 2 games left with the Texans which won't be easy. The Colts still have to play at NO which is most likely a loss. Bottom line the Bills are in a great spot here.

 

IMOH I see 2 worrisome games  .. Ravens and Pats** (just because).  There is absolutely no reason that they should lose to the Steelers or JETS 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/six-more-teams-clinch-playoff-175532872.html

The Bills can clinch a playoff berth with a win and losses or ties by the Raiders, Texans, and Colts.

 

The Chiefs can clinch the AFC West with a win over the Patriots and a Raiders loss, while the Patriots can clinch a playoff berth with a win, or other more complicated arrangements involving ties and losses by others.

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3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

IMOH I see 2 worrisome games  .. Ravens and Pats** (just because).  There is absolutely no reason that they should lose to the Steelers or JETS 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/six-more-teams-clinch-playoff-175532872.html

The Bills can clinch a playoff berth with a win and losses or ties by the Raiders, Texans, and Colts.

 

The Chiefs can clinch the AFC West with a win over the Patriots and a Raiders loss, while the Patriots can clinch a playoff berth with a win, or other more complicated arrangements involving ties and losses by others.

 

Pitt at home won't be easy. Tomlin is doing a great job this season especially with their QB situation. Still Pitt has a very good D so I expect a close game. It's definitely winnable but it won't be easy.

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1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

This weeks KEY GAMES to that really could throw the AFC on its collective heads ...   Buffalo over Baltimore and KC over New England!!!!  The ramifications in the final 3 weeks are HUGE.    I really believe the Bills can defeat the struggling Pats**** 



I'd love to see that!! Instead of a "Oh, the Patriots are #1 again" the final few weeks would be a cage-match for #1.  That would be fantastic.

 

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23 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Pitt at home won't be easy. Tomlin is doing a great job this season especially with their QB situation. Still Pitt has a very good D so I expect a close game. It's definitely winnable but it won't be easy.

 

No game in the NFL is ever easy.  (Even when its apparent it was)

20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


I'd love to see that!! Instead of a "Oh, the Patriots are #1 again" the final few weeks would be a cage-match for #1.  That would be fantastic.
 

 

You, me and every one else that is  NOT a Pats*** fan 

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23 hours ago, Jamie Nails said:

So, do we want the titans or raiders this weekend? I’m thinking, without running scenarios, we want the titans. We have the tie breaker and they have a tough last three games. 

Probably so but none of us know the future.  The good thing is they are playing each other so someone will likely lose!

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I've said it before. It's really simple. The Bills need only win ONE of their remaining four games to have a >99% chance at playoffs. This according to FiveThirtyEight and the New York Times playoff machine.

Just one game. Any one of the remaining four. Doesn't even matter which one. Just win one and they're a virtual lock.

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Just now, Logic said:

I've said it before. It's really simple. The Bills need only win ONE of their remaining four games to have a >99% chance at playoffs. This according to FiveThirtyEight and the New York Times playoff machine.

Just one game. Any one of the remaining four. Doesn't even matter which one. Just win one and they're a virtual lock.

 

while I agree with you 

I've read a number of articles that says a WIN  and help clinches 

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57 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

while I agree with you 

I've read a number of articles that says a WIN  and help clinches 


Totally true. You're right. Personally, I just don't see the clinch likely this week. Not only would the Bills have to beat the Ravens, but the three or four other outcomes that would have to happen just seem unlikely to me. I don't expect this week to be the week the Bills clinch.

For all intents and purposes, the Bills just need to win one more game to assure playoffs. It may not technically, officially clinch for them, but it pushes the playoff odds above 99%, which is good enough for me.

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