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12 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

If the Pats beat the Jets 45 - 0 I wonder if that  is good for us.   Not being battle tested for the Bills game could be an advantage for Buffalo. 

 

you mean the Pats are already looking ahead to the 9th game, the first one that seemed a challenge preseason?

 

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Ouch is right! In the meantime, I'm anxious to see how we do against a playoff team. The Bengals look awful right now, but I think they'll get better. Pats on their way. The Eagles and Cowboys will be especially tough. Cleveland, Houston and TN will also be tough tests, IMO.

1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said:

If the Pats beat the Jets 45 - 0 I wonder if that  is good for us.   Not being battle tested for the Bills game could be an advantage for Buffalo. 

 

No. It's not good if the Pats keep on demolishing everyone in their path. They're gaining even more confidence even though they haven't beaten any playoff teams yet. That's never a good thing for the other teams.

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50 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

 

 

No. It's not good if the Pats keep on demolishing everyone in their path. They're gaining even more confidence even though they haven't beaten any playoff teams yet. That's never a good thing for the other teams.

 

that undefeated Miami team didn't play a decent team all regular season, none made the playoffs

 

that Pats 16-0 had one of the hardest schedules in pro sports history, many playoff teams and top seeds to face on the road

 

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4 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

last week when I was watching some highlights I was thinking
Why was Brady still in the game late in the 3rd or early 4th with a 35 plus point lead??? 

(other than run up the score) 

 

I hope Karma rears its ugly head!!!  

Cause Brady can't pad his passing stats sitting on the bench.

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5 hours ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

The jets D is actually pretty decent. When they can stay off the field for more than 2 mins. 

I don’t care how many points they allow, I hope they at least physically punish the patriots* !! 

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To be fair to the Jets have had a lot of bad luck with injuries and illness, plus their HC is the villain from Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

Image result for villain who framed roger rabbit

 

The Dolphins are apparently going to try and build a whole new team from scratch in the Draft which I always thought was more of something you do in video games not real life.

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5 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

last week when I was watching some highlights I was thinking
Why was Brady still in the game late in the 3rd or early 4th with a 35 plus point lead??? 

(other than run up the score) 

 

I hope Karma rears its ugly head!!!  

Good luck with that. Belichick rarely pulls Brady. If Karma would have struck, we either missed it or it doesn’t care. 

5 hours ago, njbuff said:

The incompetence of the other 3 teams in the AFC East is the gift that keeps on giving to the Pats.

 

The Bills aren't the Jets or Dolphins any more, but they still have to prove themselves.

 

 

Do the Pats have the same historical success if they aren't in the ever lackluster AFC East?

Would the Bills have made it to 4 Super Bowls if they hadn’t beat up on the Colts, Jets and Pats?

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32 minutes ago, iinii said:

Good luck with that. Belichick rarely pulls Brady. If Karma would have struck, we either missed it or it doesn’t care. 

Would the Bills have made it to 4 Super Bowls if they hadn’t beat up on the Colts, Jets and Pats?

 

doubt more than 1 other AFC playoff team would have played .500 in the NFC in those Bills SB years

 

 

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59 minutes ago, iinii said:

Good luck with that. Belichick rarely pulls Brady. If Karma would have struck, we either missed it or it doesn’t care. 

Would the Bills have made it to 4 Super Bowls if they hadn’t beat up on the Colts, Jets and Pats?

 

Those teams weren’t bad for 20 years like these 3 teams have been for most of this timeframe.

 

Thats my point.

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what would be really nice to see if both the teams favored by a large margin some how end up having one of those bad games? one thing I do feel is the jets D is going to put the wood on brady, division games usually, no matter how bad one team may seem to be can play pretty close?

 

care nothing about the fins/cowgirls but certainly hoping the jets can put a hurting on marcia so the next week she becomes vulnerable?

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 I didn't touch those spreads, but I did put 100 on the UNDER in Miami Dallas.  O/U 47.  I can see Dallas getting out to a nice lead and letting their physical D and run game just churn clock.  I should probably go Dallas and the ponits too, but I could see something like 28-6.  The under seems like the safer bet in my mind.

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On 9/17/2019 at 4:00 PM, njbuff said:

 

Those teams weren’t bad for 20 years like these 3 teams have been for most of this timeframe.

 

Thats my point.

The AFCE has been weak...for sure...but A) NE has been beating all NFL teams at the same rate as AFCE teams...( about 75% )......with the exception of Denver ( in Denver ) no team can compete with them over a 16 games season.....there's a good chance they would dominate any division.....and B) The AFCE would have fare much better without them in the division..... 

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On 9/17/2019 at 11:52 AM, Bills2ref said:

I read on this board a while ago an idea that I love. Something that will never happen. Randomize the divisions every X amount of years. 5 years or so. Divisions do not matter anymore due to lack of travel constraints. Throw all the AFC teams into a hat and randomly draw for divisions. Same with the NFC. Think of how much of a disadvantage the Bills, Jets and Dolphins have had to be in a division with the best QB and coach combo in history. We are just lucky the Bills themselves haven’t been overly competitive during that time. 

I would rather see each team play everybody in conference once, no divisions, like the EPL or PAC-10. There is fifteen. Then add one to three out of conference games depending on whether it is a 16 or 18 game season. No one could beat up on their weak sisters and we would have a much more competitive league. 

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2 hours ago, Just Jack said:

So what would be a guaranteed bet to make some money, not hundreds or thousands, but at least get something back? 

There are no locks but “safe” bets this weekend to me would be the Lambs (the Clowns are soft up front on offense and Wade’s defense should make it a long day for Mayfield), Indy has a soft spread (-2) and betting history is on your side in that one. I like to bet in odd numbers so I am generally right or wrong at the end of the day; so for a third, even though it is big money I like the Cheats. Belichick against a rookie QB. Bell is going wish he had stayed in Pittsburgh. 

Just remember when all three of these are wrong, I was never here and it is for entertainment purposes only. 

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On 9/17/2019 at 5:21 PM, row_33 said:

 

doubt more than 1 other AFC playoff team would have played .500 in the NFC in those Bills SB years

 

 

And look who was in the NFC in those years....the division that owned us? None other than......

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6 hours ago, Iron Maiden said:

The AFCE has been weak...for sure...but A) NE has been beating all NFL teams at the same rate as AFCE teams...( about 75% )......with the exception of Denver ( in Denver ) no team can compete with them over a 16 games season.....there's a good chance they would dominate any division.....and B) The AFCE would have fare much better without them in the division..... 

Agreed

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On 9/17/2019 at 1:16 PM, row_33 said:

 

bring in Cincinnati

 

 

QBs often don't leave games, Ben stayed in to the bitter end the first week

 

Pats called a time out with 6 seconds left to set up a D to stop a Hail Mary attempt, no cheap TDs were to be allowed.

 

 

My thoughts are that you stay on the gas pedal until the final whistle blows. Screw all the nonsense about mercy and running up the score. Send a message to the rest of the league that you're here to whoop some ass. This is competition and you compete till it's over. 

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5 minutes ago, FLbills said:

My thoughts are that you stay on the gas pedal until the final whistle blows. Screw all the nonsense about mercy and running up the score. Send a message to the rest of the league that you're here to whoop some ass. This is competition and you compete till it's over. 

‘Points for’ is a tie breaker criteria, correct?

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On 9/17/2019 at 6:28 PM, BigDingus said:

The Pats probably feel disrespected by that line, and Belichick will use it as motivation for his team to come in & hang 50+ on the Jets.

 

 

....as in a FG up 42-0 with 3 seconds left in the 1st half..........gotta send a statement........

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23 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

‘Points for’ is a tie breaker criteria, correct?

I do believe you are correct. Thanks for pointing this out. Although I know that, I hadn't really taken it into consideration. Just another reason, and holds a lot more merit to get after it. I've never really understood why teams get away from what has been successful for the majority of the game and go into prevent. I might be wrong here, but it seems like when that happens, the opposing team starts to move the ball and score. Just my opinion of course. I don't have any numbers to back any of this up, it's just how it seems to me. 

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