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5 questions answered vs the Jets


Inigo Montoya

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I’m not sure which of them is the most important.  I listed them in no particular order.  Each of them answered a question about this team coming into Week 1.

 

1.  Oliver;   5 QB hurries, 1 QB hit, 2 tackles, played most of the game on the Jet’s side of the line of scrimmage.  He looks legit. 

 

2.  Bill’s run defense;  68 total rushing yards allowed. Looks like the run D is going to be significantly better this year.

 

3.  Singletary;  4 rushes for 70 yards, averaging 17.5 yards per carry.   5 completions on 6 targets for 28 yards. Motor looks dangerous.

 

4.  Allen leading two 4th quarter touchdown drives on the road.  Didn’t get down on himself, rallied the offense for the win.

 

5.  Hauschka 1/1 on field goals with a 43 yarder,  and 2/2 on extra points.  Our kicker didn't lose the game for us.  Kicking game may not be a dumpster fire after all.

 

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11 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Your #3 is important because it can never happen again. Motor getting 4 carries is a travesty. If Daboll and McD are going to gift Gore legacy touches Beane should just cut him too.

I have no problem with him getting 4th qtr carries to secure the ball but even then no time was taken off the clock. Hit the line and went down. I have said this before during the game but it is worth repeating.  Gore is as old as he looks. Anyone that says he has fuel in the tank is including fumes because I dont see it. 

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36 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Your #3 is important because it can never happen again. Motor getting 4 carries is a travesty. If Daboll and McD are going to gift Gore legacy touches Beane should just cut him too.

I see Singletary as the James White of the Bills offense. His use is going to completely depend on the matchup and is subject to a very change-of-pace approach.

 

He'll gain equal yardage amounts over ground and through the air.

 

I think it's perfect. I don't see the need to force him into an every-down work horse role right now.

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8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I see Singletary as the James White of the Bills offense. His use is going to completely depend on the matchup and is subject to a very change-of-pace approach.

 

He'll gain equal yardage amounts over ground and through the air.

 

I think it's perfect. I don't see the need to force him into an every-down work horse role right now.

 

It’s far from perfect if his RB teammates average 1.9 yards a carry. On what planet is that acceptable?

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I think the Hauschka concern was overblown as even the best kickers go through funks once in a while.  Some other questions that I thought were answered.

 

-Milano's injury from last year didn't seem to impact at all as he was flying all over the field making plays.

-John Brown answered the question of who the Bills #1 WR is going forward.

-Sean McDermott will continue to maintain his clapping frequency.

17 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

It’s far from perfect if his RB teammates average 1.9 yards a carry. On what planet is that acceptable?

It's one game.  It only becomes a problem if it becomes a pattern.

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1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

I see Singletary as the James White of the Bills offense. His use is going to completely depend on the matchup and is subject to a very change-of-pace approach.

 

He'll gain equal yardage amounts over ground and through the air.

 

I think it's perfect. I don't see the need to force him into an every-down work horse role right now.

 

See that was exactly where I was and then they cut Shady. Singletary has to be the guy now and he has to be the guy early. 

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The win, Shady's performance yesterday, and Singletary's outstanding 4th quarter, save Beane from a lot of doubters and questions today. I have been all-in on Beane's moves, but this one I was not so sure about.

 

Gore looked very average--and his play at the goal line was not 16 year veteran-like. I will not be surprised to see Yeldon getting involved as we go forward.

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17 minutes ago, CSBill said:

The win, Shady's performance yesterday, and Singletary's outstanding 4th quarter, save Beane from a lot of doubters and questions today. I have been all-in on Beane's moves, but this one I was not so sure about.

 

Gore looked very average--and his play at the goal line was not 16 year veteran-like. I will not be surprised to see Yeldon getting involved as we go forward.

 

Shady looked great yesterday. Just watched that game. He can 100% still play. They need to commit to Singletary now and use him to prove themselves right.... and not just in the 4th quarter  

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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Shady looked great yesterday. Just watched that game. He can 100% still play. They need to commit to Singletary now and use him to prove themselves right.... and not just in the 4th quarter  

 

He certainly seems to have earned more playing time.

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Hmm, if anything the RB play is raising more questions. Gore? Just 4 touches for Singletary ? Did we really use the passing game to setup the running game? Motor? Errr, 4 good runs against a D set to protect the pass. Lot's of questions here imho. Is it o-line based? Is Gore gassed? Can Singletary cary any real load?

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1 hour ago, CSBill said:

The win, Shady's performance yesterday, and Singletary's outstanding 4th quarter, save Beane from a lot of doubters and questions today. I have been all-in on Beane's moves, but this one I was not so sure about.

 

Gore looked very average--and his play at the goal line was not 16 year veteran-like. I will not be surprised to see Yeldon getting involved as we go forward.

Shady's performance yeserday:  10 carries 81 yards,  8.1/ypg      receive 1/1  12yds

much better than Gore's 1.8ypg on 11 carries and safety

I hope Gore is better mentor for Singletary than Shady. Otherwize the release of Shady was stupid 

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More than anything else, I think the question of "Are the Jets for real?" was answered. They had three players doing everything - Bell, Crowder, and Moseley, and when Moseley got hurt, it was all over. They had countless opportunities to bury Buffalo, and couldn't get it done. That's a fragile team. 

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5 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

I’m not sure which of them is the most important.  I listed them in no particular order.  Each of them answered a question about this team coming into Week 1.

 

1.  Oliver;   5 QB hurries, 1 QB hit, 2 tackles, played most of the game on the Jet’s side of the line of scrimmage.  He looks legit. 

 

2.  Bill’s run defense;  68 total rushing yards allowed. Looks like the run D is going to be significantly better this year.

 

3.  Singletary;  4 rushes for 70 yards, averaging 17.5 yards per carry.   5 completions on 6 targets for 28 yards. Motor looks dangerous.

 

4.  Allen leading two 4th quarter touchdown drives on the road.  Didn’t get down on himself, rallied the offense for the win.

 

5.  Hauschka 1/1 on field goals with a 43 yarder,  and 2/2 on extra points.  Kicking game may not be a dumpster fire after all.

 

Nice summary. Succinct and seemingly pretty accurate. 

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1 hour ago, Artem Lipatov said:

Shady's performance yeserday:  10 carries 81 yards,  8.1/ypg      receive 1/1  12yds

much better than Gore's 1.8ypg on 11 carries and safety

I hope Gore is better mentor for Singletary than Shady. Otherwize the release of Shady was stupid 

 

Shady did look good yesterday.   I think McBeane's thinking is that Shady and Singletary have the same running style.  They are both shifty, speedy, illusive, video game style running backs, and I think they see Gore as the ball security, grind the play clock down, pounder.  Keeping Shady would have been redundant and expensive with Singletary there. 

 

Daboll may see a Thunder and Lightning type set up with Gore and Singletary.  I agree with you that Gore couldn't get it going yesterday, but the Jet's D is strongest up the middle.  In the second half Daboll seemed to realize that the Jet's couldn't contain on the edges and started dialing up Singletary's number and Motor feasted off the edges.  I wish Daboll would have noticed that sooner.  Mosley going out at the end certainly didn't hurt either...  

 

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6 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

Your #3 is important because it can never happen again. Motor getting 4 carries is a travesty. If Daboll and McD are going to gift Gore legacy touches Beane should just cut him too.

 

Gore’s touches should be on the third and short (when they sneaked) and on the last drive of the game trying to kill the game I want the Vet in there over the Rookie 

1 hour ago, Artem Lipatov said:

Shady's performance yeserday:  10 carries 81 yards,  8.1/ypg      receive 1/1  12yds

much better than Gore's 1.8ypg on 11 carries and safety

I hope Gore is better mentor for Singletary than Shady. Otherwize the release of Shady was stupid 

 

Gore is a better mentor. That is easy to answer. Even when Shady was here who was Singletary attached too McCoy or Gore (it was Gore). And that is telling enough 

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3 hours ago, CSBill said:

Gore looked very average--and his play at the goal line was not 16 year veteran-like. I will not be surprised to see Yeldon getting involved as we go forward.

Think both these are good points.  Even tough I don't think it was a safety - it was a terrible play by Gore "the most experienced RB in the league" to not get low and make damn sure he did not get stopped at the goal line.  Yeldon catching some balls out of the backfield would add another dimension to the offense as well.  

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3 hours ago, bladiebla said:

Hmm, if anything the RB play is raising more questions. Gore? Just 4 touches for Singletary ? Did we really use the passing game to setup the running game? Motor? Errr, 4 good runs against a D set to protect the pass. Lot's of questions here imho. Is it o-line based? Is Gore gassed? Can Singletary cary any real load?

Did we go 3 straight series without a russhing attempt to start the game? Im not sure if McDerm was just trying to work out all the kinks but I was losing my mind watching the start of the game 

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7 hours ago, fansince88 said:

I have no problem with him getting 4th qtr carries to secure the ball but even then no time was taken off the clock. Hit the line and went down. I have said this before during the game but it is worth repeating.  Gore is as old as he looks. Anyone that says he has fuel in the tank is including fumes because I dont see it. 

What you didn’t see..... was a hole for Gore to run through.  Just like shady last year.  Meanwhile shady gets 10 carries for 81 in KC.

 

singletary looks great.  He’s better than gore.  He should get more touches.  This game, he had gaping holes, while Gore had none

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A question coming into this game I had was how balanced our offense would be. I felt like a big difference between the first half, and the second was balance. The first half felt like a preseason game to me, where they didn't balance the scheme-- just throw, after throw, after throw. In the second half, the scheme was balanced, and much harder to defend. 

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I think Gore will be better A) as our OL gels and B) against teams that aren't as stacked up the middle as the Jets.  It's worth paying attention to but hopefully this was a one game issue. 

 

Singletary was impressive.  His vision, quick twitch, hesitation/acceleration was fun to watch.  He also proved to be a weapon in the passing game after the early drop.  That hesitation juke on the sideline in the 4th off the reception was beautiful.

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8 hours ago, CSBill said:

The win, Shady's performance yesterday, and Singletary's outstanding 4th quarter, save Beane from a lot of doubters and questions today. I have been all-in on Beane's moves, but this one I was not so sure about.

 

Gore looked very average--and his play at the goal line was not 16 year veteran-like. I will not be surprised to see Yeldon getting involved as we go forward.

Shady looked good and I like Singletary.... we shall see but imo that move looks more and more like a way to save money when cutting yeldon and keeping shady makes more sense

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