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3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

 

listening to Gase’s post game press conference, the way he talks about the game and the offense/defense he sounds more like the offensive coordinator than the head coach. 

When he hired Gregg, he said he wanted a “HC of the defense”. Basically he wants nothing to do with it. Which might be ok if he was at all good at coaching offense. 

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And lets not forget the big picture:  a ROAD win in the division.  Those are a big deal and at the end of the season when we're clawing for a playoff spot how big will this win be?  HUGE is my bet.

 

Like others I did not expect the comeback and I was pissed at the turnovers.  But there was NOTHING fluky about that comeback.  It was like a switch was thrown and the offense EXECUTED.  Equally important the defense kept doing what it had been doing all game.  In the end this was a quality TEAM win. 

 

Oh and one last thing IGNORE the National media (and some local media).  After listening to them over the last year I'm convinced they're eating brightly colored mushrooms growing on logs in the forest.  It's that or they're simply stupid. 

 

 

 

 

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The more I think about the Bills passing 18 times in a row to start the game, the more I wonder if it was to prove a point. 

 

I’m wondering if they may have been a bit offended by all of the “make Allen be a QB to win” talks by the Jets players. 

 

Just a thought

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8 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

10 to 1 he predicted a Jets rout and now is mad he'll have to make excuses for himself on tomorrow's show.

 

The most frustrating thing about these quotes is that it proves the guy wasn't watching this game and had never actually seen Peterman play. 

 

It would have been harsh but probably fair to say Allen wasn't protecting the ball but his passing today was quite accurate, even in the 1st half.  He was mostly throwing darts out there and hitting his short passes.  As for the Peterman comparison, Allen's 4 TO's  were not remotely similar to what you got with vintage Peterman.  In fact it would be fair to say that Allen was only responsible for 1 or at most 2 of the TO's. 

 

Remember last year how the Bills set an NFL record going 9 straight possessions without a 1st down against the Ravens?  That was vintage Peterman.  Or check any of Peterman's pick sixes and compare them to the fluky bounce off Beasley's hands pick 6 today.  It's hard to to take these ignoramuses seriously. 

 

I really don't get the irrational hatred a large segment of the sports media have for Allen.  They are rooting for this genuinely decent kid to do poorly.  It's sick IMO and says a lot about the bankrupt souls of these petty little creatures...........................Man I feel better now!

 

 

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1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

 

The most frustrating thing about these quotes is that it proves the guy wasn't watching this game and had never actually seen Peterman play. 

 

It would have been harsh but probably fair to say Allen wasn't protecting the ball but his passing today was quite accurate, even in the 1st half.  He was mostly throwing darts out there and hitting his short passes.  As for the Peterman comparison, Allen's 4 TO's  were not remotely similar to what you got with vintage Peterman.  In fact it would be fair to say that Allen was only responsible for 1 or at most 2 of the TO's. 

 

Remember last year how the Bills set an NFL record going 9 straight possessions without a 1st down against the Ravens?  That was vintage Peterman.  Or check any of Peterman's pick sixes and compare them to the fluky bounce off Beasley's hands pick 6 today.  It's hard to to take these ignoramuses seriously. 

 

I really don't get the irrational hatred a large segment of the sports media have for Allen.  They are rooting for this genuinely decent kid to do poorly.  It's sick IMO and says a lot about the bankrupt souls of these petty little creatures...........................Man I feel better now!

 

 

 

Why is it frustrating?  Francessa stopped paying attention to anything except his own ego and paycheck years ago.  Ignore what clowns like him say.

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11 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

The more I think about the Bills passing 18 times in a row to start the game, the more I wonder if it was to prove a point. 

 

I’m wondering if they may have been a bit offended by all of the “make Allen be a QB to win” talks by the Jets players. 

 

Just a thought

 

I had the same thought.

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26 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The point is only that it had zero effect on the game. None. Four turnovers over the course of a game has an enormous affect. More than three. It was much, much more of a four turnover game than a three turnover game because the one that made it three had zero affect. And I don't mean that if the other team didn't capitalize it may have had no effect. That's not the same thing. It could not have had an affect of the game because of how and when it happened. 

 

The press saying it was -4 turnovers over and over and over doesn't make it anything but fake news. A turnover on the last play of the game is just as valid as on the first.

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10 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

The more I think about the Bills passing 18 times in a row to start the game, the more I wonder if it was to prove a point. 

 

I’m wondering if they may have been a bit offended by all of the “make Allen be a QB to win” talks by the Jets players. 

 

Just a thought

 

You make a great point.  And I think it came within a hair of working big time for the Bills today.  Their rustiness, the last time they had run an all out passing attack was in the 1st quarter of the Carolina preseason game, was enough to create the conditions for a couple of fluky TO's.  The truth is that the Bills were moving smartly down the field with the opening KO and also moved the ball well in a couple of other 1st half drives.

 

I would do it again next week against the Giants. 

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1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:

 

The press saying it was -4 turnovers over and over and over doesn't make it anything but fake news. A turnover on the last play of the game is just as valid as on the first.

It's a spirit of the law versus letter of the law. Technically you are right. But for all intents and purposes, the four affected the game. 

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31 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I'm sure the Pats and Steelers are looking to make a change too considering Tom airmailing and Ben turfing multiple passes already tonight.

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6 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Why is it frustrating?  Francessa stopped paying attention to anything except his own ego and paycheck years ago.  Ignore what clowns like him say.

 

It's frustrating to me because it's so nasty and over the top.  I know I should ignore them and over the years I have but their attacks on Allen seem completely unhinged. 

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Just now, Kelly the Dog said:

It's a spirit of the law versus letter of the law. Technically you are right. But for all intents and purposes, the four affected the game. 

This argument I will grant you some leeway on, since the 4 Bills turnovers were before the game's final score had been registered... however if some random Jet picks that ball up and Dysons his way to the end zone, then no, the game would not have been decided at that point, so to me it was a turnover while the game was in doubt - not as much doubt, but still within the realm of that one play potentially changing the outcome. Right?

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4 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Tell us "beating a 0-0 team on the road hurts our chances in the draft."  C'mon.  Tell us "Winning only hurts the franchise."  In week 1.  Do it.  I dare you.  

What’s that have to do with the fact that two inept offenses were on display? Your deflection is predictable.

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1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:

This argument I will grant you some leeway on, since the 4 Bills turnovers were before the game's final score had been registered... however if some random Jet picks that ball up and Dysons his way to the end zone, then no, the game would not have been decided at that point, so to me it was a turnover while the game was in doubt - not as much doubt, but still within the realm of that one play potentially changing the outcome. Right?

Technically. ;) By the time the Jet stopped close to the sideline, turned and tried to throw it across the field the opposite way while being hit, the game was 99.999% over. 

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2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Technically. ;) By the time the Jet stopped close to the sideline, turned and tried to throw it across the field the opposite way while being hit, the game was 99.999% over. 

To me, there's no garbage time in a 1-point game.

 

Except on Twitter. Everything on Twitter is garbage.

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1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:

To me, there's no garbage time in a 1-point game.

 

Except on Twitter. Everything on Twitter is garbage.

To me, there is no garbage time in a one point game either. But to me, the fourth Josh turnover happened in the third quarter and before we started the comeback. To me, this game played out much more like a four turnover differential than a three turnover differential because of the last play

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12 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

I'm sure the Pats and Steelers are looking to make a change too considering Tom airmailing and Ben turfing multiple passes already tonight.

 i get the national media they dont watch the Bills......but Bills fans do we watch other qb's play???    Rogers was brutal, Trubisky was terrible, Baker was awful Im not going to go down the list but we analyze ever throw Allen makes like no one else makes a poor  throw or bounces one or the DB drops an interception. It happpens every freaking week thats football

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3 minutes ago, CardinalScotts said:

 i get the national media they dont watch the Bills......but Bills fans do we watch other qb's play???    Rogers was brutal, Trubisky was terrible, Baker was awful Im not going to go down the list but we analyze ever throw Allen makes like no one else makes a poor  throw or bounces one or the DB drops an interception. It happpens every freaking week thats football

 

If you showed every QB's 3 or 4 worst passes in the highlights every week the whole league would be Josh Allen.

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So Singletary outgains Bell and Allen outgains Darnold and our defense only allows 3.4 yards a play. Imagine what could have happened without all the crazy turnovers. Even the punter didn’t suck. All I wanted was a first game leaving high optimism for the future. Let see this continue for the next 2 weeks. We need to come back to Metlife and hand it to the Giants next week. 

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https://theathletic.com/1195142/2019/09/08/a-surreal-victory-and-a-kinetic-rookie-devin-singletary-they-call-him-motor-revs-up-the-bills-offense/  (sub. required) 

 

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To emphasize a point that everyone should be prepared to overcome growing pains and remain calm as mistakes are made, offensive coordinator Brian Daboll recently asked all of the new Bills to stand up.

 

Nine offensive players remained seated. Of those nine, only three started Sunday: 23-year-old Allen, left tackle Dion Dawkins and fullback Patrick DiMarco.

 

In addition to the eight debuting offensive starters, six more came off the bench. Receiver Andre Roberts and tight end Tyler Kroft were sidelined by injuries.

 

Pretty crazy the amount of change on offense.

 

Hopefully they will only continue to get better the more time they have together! 

 

Couple of my favorite quotes -

 

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Singletary turned 22 five days before his NFL debut. He has latched himself to Gore, and the future Hall of Famer doesn’t seem to mind one bit.

 

“He’s a kid that’s special in this era,” Gore said. “He listens. He’s willing to do whatever.”

 

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“He’s been doing it since we drafted him,” Bills safety Micah Hyde said of Singletary. “That kid makes plays. He’s like a little bowling ball. He bounces off tackles, he makes guys miss, and we’re lucky to have him on our team.”

 

 

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(talking about the Bills win) “If that’s not a testament to the locker room and the men in this organization,” said Smith, sweat pouring down his face, “then ****, I don’t what is.”

 

 

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7 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

His first half wasn’t nearly as bad as the counting stats would indicate.

 

The turnovers were all very flukey as opposed to being poor decision making; and by my count Allen really only made two truly poor decisions throughout the game, neither of which came back to bite him.

 

If this is who Josh Allen is, the Bills are going to be playoff contenders for the next 10-15 years or so.  Without bad luck, the Bills win this game by 3-4 scores in a run away.

Who are you and what have you done with TiTTasker?

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7 hours ago, whatdrought said:

So... 18 straight pass plays to start this week... How about 18 straight run plays against the Giants? 

 

I am so excited to see what our Offense can look like with Motor getting going. 

I think we’ll see more of the same next week as the G-men also have a susceptible Secondary. Daboll is developing his Air Allen offense to be whatever best suits beating the next opponent. Thrilling, actually. 

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14 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I think we’ll see more of the same next week as the G-men also have a susceptible Secondary. Daboll is developing his Air Allen offense to be whatever best suits beating the next opponent. Thrilling, actually. 

I think this was a real good game for the Air Allen O to learn from. ( I like that name )

 

Our Buffalo Bills football team really showed some grit today.

 

Impressive despite the mistakes. 

 

 

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