TroutDog Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) Quote: Buffalo Bills The worry: Buffalo might not have the explosive playmakers to take the next step. “People talk about Josh Allen’s accuracy and that will be the top concern if he winds up being Blake Bortles as a passer on third down. I wonder if they have the horses overall. You root for them because they do it the right way, but where is the big-play flair, the explosive, big-play home-run guy both offensively and defensively? They have a lot of lunch-pail-type guys who work hard, are smart, but might not get you over the hump to, say, 10-plus wins.” https://theathletic.com/1180817/2019/09/03/nfl-execs-on-what-all-32-teams-should-worry-about-entering-the-season/ This falls in line with the ‘not having big names’ argument. I don’t buy it. The biggest concern to me this year is Josh’s continued improvement. Edited September 3, 2019 by TroutDog 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Cart and horse issue in Buffalo. It all depends upon Allen. If he can win and produce then the guys around him will look better. The D would have bigger names if they were a part of a winning playoff team. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Im cool with it. Continue to doubt the Bills and hopefully we turn dome heads and earn some damn respect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 That seems very reasonable. Especially since they reference 10+ wins. I think 9 wins is a major improvement and we can get the "explosive" player next year if its a huge need. Also nice to see that we did it right, according to this person. I kinda think the home-run player is overrated and often overpaid. Honestly, Im personally more worried about many other things haha. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Very accurate comments on offensive but we have potential superstars on D, Tremaine Edmunds, Tre White , Ed Oliver. Guy that arent as potentially splashy but able to put up big plays include Poyer, hyde, milano, J Hughes, Lorax. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Very accurate comments on offensive but we have potential superstars on D, Tremaine Edmunds, Tre White , Ed Oliver. Guy that arent as potentially splashy but able to put up big plays include Poyer, hyde, milano, J Hughes, Lorax. Reading all those names in the same sentence sends a chill down my spine. I believe we have the best defense in football until proven otherwise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Very accurate comments on offensive but we have potential superstars on D, Tremaine Edmunds, Tre White , Ed Oliver. Guy that arent as potentially splashy but able to put up big plays include Poyer, hyde, milano, J Hughes, Lorax. Certainly the defense has some potential star power, but none of these guys are household names yet. I agree they are lunch pail type guys. That's fine. They play well as a team but we don't have the flashy sack and INT numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On paper, it doesn't look like we have a lot of big play guys on offense. There are question marks around our wideouts. None of our TEs is a proven big play guy. Our RBs include an old man, a perennial back up, and a small, slow rook. And our QB's accuracy is a works-in-progress. Our OL consists entirely of "lunch pail" guys. This doesn't look like the roster of a high-flying offense. But it doesn't have to be. If our D is as good as we think it is, we'll be in good shape if our O can just average something like 24 points/game. If Allen steps up this year, that's do-able. The big plays will come off his arm. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Quote: Buffalo Bills The worry: Buffalo might not have the explosive playmakers to take the next step. “People talk about Josh Allen’s accuracy and that will be the top concern if he winds up being Blake Bortles as a passer on third down. I wonder if they have the horses overall. You root for them because they do it the right way, but where is the big-play flair, the explosive, big-play home-run guy both offensively and defensively? They have a lot of lunch-pail-type guys who work hard, are smart, but might not get you over the hump to, say, 10-plus wins.” https://theathletic.com/1180817/2019/09/03/nfl-execs-on-what-all-32-teams-should-worry-about-entering-the-season/ This falls in line with the ‘not having big names’ argument. I don’t buy it. The biggest concern to me this year is Josh’s continued improvement. THis is actually my thinking. Outside of perhaps Morse, who on offense is a top-15-at-his-position player? I can't think of anyone. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 With a solid defense - especially with good depth/rotation on the line - we don't need an explosive offense. We need a "move the chains" offense. That's exactly what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Its true we don't have many "National big names", but to say we lack explosive playmakers is a stretch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 This is the sort of comment I'd expect to hear from Doug Whaley. That's all he wanted to do -- add splash. The defense is full of "explosive, game-changing" players. Hughes, Oliver, Edmunds, Milano, White, Hyde, Poyer. Sure, the offense doesn't have big names but that doesn't mean they aren't potentially explosive. Brown makes explosive plays. Singletary's explosiveness jumps off his tape. Beasley is "explosive" in the slot. And let's not forget the most important piece -- Josh Allen. He has already shown explosiveness and the ability to take a game over. If he takes the next step comments like this will disappear. If the biggest thing Bills fans need to worry about is that nobody knows the names of their players (yet), we're not in bad shape. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) The Bills don't have anyone with the reputation of an explosive playmaker on O. No recent draft pick or free agent has that. However, the Bills have a lot of guys who can stretch the field: Brown, Foster, Roberts, McKenzie; who can get tough yards-Gore, Singletary; who can move the sticks-Beasley -- and a lot of potential at TE with Sweeney, Knox and Kroft. The Bills have built of deep Offense from the line to the skill positions. I believe the Bills also have an Offensive Coaching staff who can use these parts to their max potential. I think the Offense has great potential to go from an offense that averaged under 300 yards a game last year to an offense that averages over 370 or so yards a game -- so move from 30th to 15th or so with Josh just playing at a level where he played the last 5 games of last year. The Bills have improved that much. The problem with having one or two key playmakers is that injuries wreak havoc with a season...I think building the kind of depth the Bills have started to build on O and then adding a playmaker or two through the draft makes more sense. Edited September 3, 2019 by JoeF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I guess our D players need to say more stupid sh*t so they get media coverage and can be "big" names like Ramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, JoeF said: The Bills don't have anyone with the reputation of an explosive playmaker on O. No recent draft pick or free agent has that. However, the Bills have a lot of guys who can stretch the field: Brown, Foster, Roberts, McKenzie; who can get tough yards-Gore, Singletary; who can move the sticks-Beasley -- and a lot of potential at TE with Sweeney, Knox and Kroft. The Bills have built of deep Offense from the line to the skill positions. I believe the Bills also have an Offensive Coaching staff who can use these parts to their max potential. I think the Offense has great potential to go from an offense that averaged under 300 yards a game last year to an offense that averages over 370 or so yards a game -- so move from 30th to 15th or so with Josh just playing at a level where he played the last 5 games of last year. The Bills have improved that much. I think this is a fair assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I agree completely with the premise of the article. I do think we can win with this team, but we need more elite talent to become a consistent contender. Luckily I think we have a few guys on the roster that could develop into those kinds of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 People worry too much about "superstars." You need some...but on a successful team most of your team is going to be workman-like guys developed, coached, and playing to ten-tenths their ability. At most, these days, only 5 of your roster is going to be regular all-pros. Get that foundation established first, then go after those 5 all-pros, if you haven't drafted them already (e.g. Tre White.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 So John Brown and Robert "led the league in YPC" Foster aren't explosive? What about McKenzie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Sounds like the annual description of the Pats* for the last 20 years (except the QB) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I’m thinking Allen to Foster was some seriously big splash play last season, and the team is in better shape this season, maybe it’s just me... Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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