Who do you want on the Practice Squad?

[Big Turk]

3 hours ago, die hard bills fan said:

Tyree

For Gods sake, why? I want a player who has a chance of becoming an NFL player. He clearly does not. Waste of a practice swuad spot imho

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's one of those opinion things there's no arguing with.  Tyree's physical talent is undeniable, but I simply don't think his football abilities as a QB are far enough along for him to be worth a slot, even on the PS.  If they want him to run the scout team and give the D different looks, he has to be versatile enough - I don't think he's versatile enough to play football tailored to his style, let alone anyone else's. 

 

Then too, let's say Allen is injured and next game Barkley goes out - it's happened - you really want a guy who could "hold down the fort" for a game if you're keeping him on the roster.  Maybe with a limited, tailored game plan, but hold down the fort.  I don't see Tyree as able to do that at the NFL level.

 

You may disagree, that's fine.  There's also the point that during the season, coaches going to be all about the starter and the backup.  It's not going to be all about coaching up the 3rd string guy.  He'll learn plays, and defensive reads, and film skills in the QB room, but basic technique improvement, there really isn't time for that.

 

I pretty much agree with this...he is NOT an NFL caliber player. Would be a waste of a PS spot.

[Greatdane21]

1 QB

1 RB

2 WR

2 LB

2 CB

1 DL

1 OL

[Sherlock Holmes]

Sills V obviously

Wade

Duke

Tyree Jackson

Any other QB that has shown promise

Chase Mclaughlin

Cut Bojo and take Anger

Pitts

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, NickelCity said:

Duke

Wade

Sills if only as an experiment to see if he can add mass

Cam Lewis

Pitts, but he won't make it through waivers 

 

And Easley, could be another Beasley.

 

 

4 hours ago, bopper2 said:

Sutton Smith from N. Illinois, a Steelers cut.

 

wasnt he a draft pick? He was a playmaker but a little light, could be great fit for us.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

Sills V obviously

Wade

Duke

Tyree Jackson

Any other QB that has shown promise

Chase Mclaughlin

Cut Bojo and take Anger

Pitts

 

 

 

Glad you didn't leave on a nuke.

 

Now get your head on straight and dont fall in love with fringe players.

 

The only thing that matters is the best 53.

 

Go Bills !!!

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, GreggTX said:

Wade and Williams (if we can). I think Williams has played himself onto someone's 53 man roster, but he'll have to learn a new playbook, so he won't be on the field for a while. Those are the 2 obvious misses on the 53 man roster. I don't know why they kept so many OL and TE's other than trade bait, but what can they possibly expect from guys like Boettger and McDermott? I could see someone giving up a 7th round pick for Croom, though. Other than Wade and Williams, I don't really care. I doubt it will make much difference anyways.

 

Croom is going straight on IR but with the potential to return at some point. Boettger is a good backup lineman in a league with few good backup linemen. He came into the league as an UDFA and fought his way past a guy the team spent draft capital on in Wyatt Teller. Spain is a one year contract, Long has a one year out as well and I suspect the Bills would love to keep developing Boettger into a starter. He is a better football player than Williams or Wade at this stage. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Croom is going straight on IR but with the potential to return at some point. Boettger is a good backup lineman in a league with few good backup linemen. He came into the league as an UDFA and fought his way past a guy the team spent draft capital on in Wyatt Teller. Spain is a one year contract, Long has a one year out as well and I suspect the Bills would love to keep developing Boettger into a starter. He is a better football player than Williams or Wade at this stage. 

 

looks like we might be drafting more lineman next year with those contracts.

 

 

[reddogblitz]

Duke

Wade

Spencer Schnell

Jake Browning

Edited September 1, 2019 by reddogblitz

[GunnerBill]

So I have just scoured the waiver wire (I am available Mr Beane you just have to pick up the phone and call) and combined with a few of the guys I liked who were here I'd go something like:

 

QB - Luke Falk, Washington State, 6th Round 2018 (Jets)

OL - Mitch Hyatt, Clemson, UDFA 2019 (Cowboys)

RB - Josh Adams, Notre Dame, UDFA 2018 (Eagles)

RB - Christian Wade, International Player Pathway, (Bills)* 

WR - Isaiah Ford, Virginia Tech, 7th Round 2018 (Dolphins) 

TE - Jordan Franks, UCF, UDFA 2018 (Bengals) 

DL - Daniel Wise, Kansas, UDFA 2019 (Cowboys) 

DL - Gerald Willis, Miami, UDFA 2019 (Ravens)

LB - Malik Jefferson, Texas, 3rd Round 2018 (Bengals) 

CB - Cam Lewis, Buffalo, UDFA 2019 (Bills) 

CB - Teez Tabor, Florida, 2nd round 2017 (Lions) 

[Solomon Grundy]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I do not understand why everyone is against Tyree- find out if he can get better with good coaching. The other 3rd stringers have less physical talent- we might be able to coach him up to be a good backup. In practice squad guys I prefer talent to decision making.

Thank you Timmy!! 

[Solomon Grundy]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's one of those opinion things there's no arguing with.  Tyree's physical talent is undeniable, but I simply don't think his football abilities as a QB are far enough along for him to be worth a slot, even on the PS.  If they want him to run the scout team and give the D different looks, he has to be versatile enough - I don't think he's versatile enough to play football tailored to his style, let alone anyone else's. 

 

Then too, let's say Allen is injured and next game Barkley goes out - it's happened - you really want a guy who could "hold down the fort" for a game if you're keeping him on the roster.  Maybe with a limited, tailored game plan, but hold down the fort.  I don't see Tyree as able to do that at the NFL level.

 

You may disagree, that's fine.  There's also the point that during the season, coaches going to be all about the starter and the backup.  It's not going to be all about coaching up the 3rd string guy.  He'll learn plays, and defensive reads, and film skills in the QB room, but basic technique improvement, there really isn't time for that.

You guys were willing to give Josh Allen time to improve basic techniques and footwork in his game, but not Tyree?? It's highly unlikely he will see the 53 this year with the improvement of the Oline and Matt Barkley's intelligence at QB. Tyree showed, in a meaningless preseason game that he has moxey. Give the "local" guy a chance. 

Edited September 1, 2019 by the skycap

[GunnerBill]

14 minutes ago, the skycap said:

You guys were willing to give Josh Allen time to improve basic techniques and footwork in his game, but not Tyree?? It's highly unlikely he will see the 53 this year with the improvement of the Oline and Matt Barkley's intelligence at QB. Tyree showed, in a meaningless preseason game that he has moxey. Give the "local" guy a chance. 

 

Moxie doesn't overcome inability to pass. 

[Doc Brown]

59 minutes ago, the skycap said:

You guys were willing to give Josh Allen time to improve basic techniques and footwork in his game, but not Tyree?? It's highly unlikely he will see the 53 this year with the improvement of the Oline and Matt Barkley's intelligence at QB. Tyree showed, in a meaningless preseason game that he has moxey. Give the "local" guy a chance. 

Like we had a choice?  LOL.  Bills aren't running a charity case here. Besides the final drive, Tyree struggled in the preseason against backups and pry should've stayed another year in college as he's not close to NFL ready.

 

I'd rather take a chance on somebody like Kyle Lauletta (a former 4th round pick) who had a decent preseason and is unlikely to make the Giants practice squad.  Josh Allen's style of play makes him prone to injury and we need a QB on the practice squad who can back up Barkley. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

So I have just scoured the waiver wire (I am available Mr Beane you just have to pick up the phone and call) and combined with a few of the guys I liked who were here I'd go something like:

 

QB - Luke Falk, Washington State, 6th Round 2018 (Jets)

OL - Mitch Hyatt, Clemson, UDFA 2019 (Cowboys)

RB - Josh Adams, Notre Dame, UDFA 2018 (Eagles)

RB - Christian Wade, International Player Pathway, (Bills)* 

WR - Isaiah Ford, Virginia Tech, 7th Round 2018 (Dolphins) 

TE - Jordan Franks, UCF, UDFA 2018 (Bengals) 

DL - Daniel Wise, Kansas, UDFA 2019 (Cowboys) 

DL - Gerald Willis, Miami, UDFA 2019 (Ravens)

LB - Malik Jefferson, Texas, 3rd Round 2018 (Bengals) 

CB - Cam Lewis, Buffalo, UDFA 2019 (Bills) 

CB - Teez Tabor, Florida, 2nd round 2017 (Lions) 

 

 

...Lauletta or Falk versus Tyree......

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

...Lauletta or Falk versus Tyree......

 

Both are vast upgrades. 

[Foxx]

9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It's one of those opinion things there's no arguing with.  Tyree's physical talent is undeniable, but I simply don't think his football abilities as a QB are far enough along for him to be worth a slot, even on the PS.  If they want him to run the scout team and give the D different looks, he has to be versatile enough - I don't think he's versatile enough to play football tailored to his style, let alone anyone else's. 

 

Then too, let's say Allen is injured and next game Barkley goes out - it's happened - you really want a guy who could "hold down the fort" for a game if you're keeping him on the roster.  Maybe with a limited, tailored game plan, but hold down the fort.  I don't see Tyree as able to do that at the NFL level.

 

You may disagree, that's fine.  There's also the point that during the season, coaches going to be all about the starter and the backup.  It's not going to be all about coaching up the 3rd string guy.  He'll learn plays, and defensive reads, and film skills in the QB room, but basic technique improvement, there really isn't time for that.

isn't the third string/practice squad QB responsible for being the upcoming opposing teams QB that week? i've seen it said that Tyree is good at multiple styles of play. so it might be one of the ideas behind signing him if they do. 

Edited September 1, 2019 by Foxx

[freddyjj]

10 hours ago, bopper2 said:

Sutton Smith from N. Illinois, a Steelers cut.

man without a position in NFL.  Steelers saw him as WILB in 3-4.   Hard road for him now.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

Like most Bills fans, I am blindly obsessed with Duke Williams and will be full of anguish should he not reach the practice squad.

[TPS]

5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Croom is going straight on IR but with the potential to return at some point. Boettger is a good backup lineman in a league with few good backup linemen. He came into the league as an UDFA and fought his way past a guy the team spent draft capital on in Wyatt Teller. Spain is a one year contract, Long has a one year out as well and I suspect the Bills would love to keep developing Boettger into a starter. He is a better football player than Williams or Wade at this stage. 

While boettger made the cut, I don’t think it’s an indication that the Bills thought he was better, rather he was close enough in their eyes that they could do the Teller trade. In my view, They knew they could not keep both, so they traded the guy that gave the best return to them. 

 

Do you think the Browns would’ve done the same deal for Boettger? 

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, TPS said:

While boettger made the cut, I don’t think it’s an indication that the Bills thought he was better, rather he was close enough in their eyes that they could do the Teller trade. In my view, They knew they could not keep both, so they traded the guy that gave the best return to them. 

 

Do you think the Browns would’ve done the same deal for Boettger? 

 

When Spain went out against the Panthers in the 3rd pre season game they put Boettger in. That tells me in the staff's mind he was ahead. 

 

I think what likely happened is Beane said to McDermott and the OL coach the next day "if that is how you feel what say you we test the market for Wyatt?" 

[BITE ME]

12 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Here is a list of QBs just cut.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/transactions/quarterback/

 

Which one complains first that Peterman has a job but they don't.  Those are some bad quarterbacks.  Bills don't need a QB3. If Allen and Barkley go down they might as well put the worst player than can find back there and just tank the season.  Allen-Barkley is one of the best starter/backup combinations in the NFL. Not too many teams have a backup as good as Barkley. 

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

When Spain went out against the Panthers in the 3rd pre season game they put Boettger in. That tells me in the staff's mind he was ahead. 

 

I think what likely happened is Beane said to McDermott and the OL coach the next day "if that is how you feel what say you we test the market for Wyatt?" 

Yup. You're not going to screw around and see what this random 3rd teamer does with the starters! when the franchise QB is on the field. It was an indication Boettger was ahead.

 

Beane said "not that we were going to cut Wyatt" so maybe he was still making the roster over McDermott, they did try him out at RT in game 3 second half.

 

I agree Boettger isn't going anywhere, I think they like him, especially now he can play Center

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Yup. You're not going to screw around and see what this random 3rd teamer does with the starters! when the franchise QB is on the field. It was an indication Boettger was ahead.

 

Beane said "not that we were going to cut Wyatt" so maybe he was still making the roster over McDermott, they did try him out at RT in game 3 second half.

 

I agree Boettger isn't going anywhere, I think they like him, especially now he can play Center

 

It is a good point. They did try Wyatt at RT. That may well have been the thinking. 

[jwhit34]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Like we had a choice?  LOL.  Bills aren't running a charity case here. Besides the final drive, Tyree struggled in the preseason against backups and pry should've stayed another year in college as he's not close to NFL ready.

 

I'd rather take a chance on somebody like Kyle Lauletta (a former 4th round pick) who had a decent preseason and is unlikely to make the Giants practice squad.  Josh Allen's style of play makes him prone to injury and we need a QB on the practice squad who can back up Barkley. 

Beane has shown that he is operating this team like a business and not emotionally. McCoy is exhibit A. So is Munnerlyn. Coleman is a great example of knowing how to work this system. 

 

If Tyree Jackson wasn’t from UB would 95+% of the sign to PS crowd advocate for him? My bet is no. Find someone better. 

[TPS]

43 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

When Spain went out against the Panthers in the 3rd pre season game they put Boettger in. That tells me in the staff's mind he was ahead. 

 

I think what likely happened is Beane said to McDermott and the OL coach the next day "if that is how you feel what say you we test the market for Wyatt?" 

Plausible, but I still think it was a matter of which one of the two fairly equal backup guards gave them the most return since they had to release one of them anyway.  A 5th and 6th is a pretty decent haul for a backup G.  Almost as good as getting a 6th for Bodine....

 

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Glad you didn't leave on a nuke.

 

Now get your head on straight and dont fall in love with fringe players.

 

The only thing that matters is the best 53.

 

Go Bills !!!

 

I knew better, but I had to give love to my boy... I was once told Kuechly and JJ Watt weren't going to make it in this league as well as Joey Bosa and Julian Edelman. People told me McCaffrey wasn't cut out for this league! Yet I held my head high.

 

Sometimes my stubborness makes me look like an @$$, sometimes a genius. Today it is definitely the former. Still have my belief in the kid though and with some time I know he can develop.

 

Best 53 is always the goal though

[SteveFreeman22]

14 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

1. Duke

2. Wade

3. McClaughlin

4. Decent QB

Well if the QB was decent, wouldn't he be on somebody's 53???   It's called practice squad. Sign Jackson to it and coach him up.

[Just Joshin']

30 minutes ago, jwhit34 said:

Beane has shown that he is operating this team like a business and not emotionally. McCoy is exhibit A. So is Munnerlyn. Coleman is a great example of knowing how to work this system. 

 

If Tyree Jackson wasn’t from UB would 95+% of the sign to PS crowd advocate for him? My bet is no. Find someone better. 

I do not know about other teams message boards but there is an obsession with the long shot players here.

 

We all love a good story but need to balance feelings with facts.  Jackson has not shown he can be a future NFL QB in any regard.  

5 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

 

I knew better, but I had to give love to my boy... I was once told Kuechly and JJ Watt weren't going to make it in this league as well as Joey Bosa and Julian Edelman. People told me McCaffrey wasn't cut out for this league! Yet I held my head high.

 

Sometimes my stubborness makes me look like an @$$, sometimes a genius. Today it is definitely the former. Still have my belief in the kid though and with some time I know he can develop.

 

Best 53 is always the goal though

You feel a bit Biden like on Watt, Kuechly and Bosa.  They were all regarded as future stars.

[Sherlock Holmes]

4 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said:

I do not know about other teams message boards but there is an obsession with the long shot players here.

 

We all love a good story but need to balance feelings with facts.  Jackson has not shown he can be a future NFL QB in any regard.  

You feel a bit Biden like on Watt, Kuechly and Bosa.  They were all regarded as future stars.

That's BBMB for you...

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, FUTURIST said:

 

Which one complains first that Peterman has a job but they don't.  Those are some bad quarterbacks.  Bills don't need a QB3. If Allen and Barkley go down they might as well put the worst player than can find back there and just tank the season.  Allen-Barkley is one of the best starter/backup combinations in the NFL. Not too many teams have a backup as good as Barkley. 

 

Agree, the Bills don't need  QB3 but they do need a PSQB1 to run the scout team.

They still may call back Tyree for that.

[buffaloboyinATL]

2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Like most Bills fans, I am blindly obsessed with Duke Williams and will be full of anguish should he not reach the practice squad.

Not quite “blindly”, but I do like what I have seen so far.  

[Hebert19]

Sounds like ray ray and Duke will be back if they clear waivers.  Per article this AM

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 9/1/2019 at 10:14 AM, Sherlock Holmes said:

 

I knew better, but I had to give love to my boy... I was once told Kuechly and JJ Watt weren't going to make it in this league as well as Joey Bosa and Julian Edelman. People told me McCaffrey wasn't cut out for this league! Yet I held my head high.

 

Sometimes my stubborness makes me look like an @$$, sometimes a genius. Today it is definitely the former. Still have my belief in the kid though and with some time I know he can develop.

 

Best 53 is always the goal though

 

Hey i wanted to draft Sills, but it was clear hes not ready. Hopefully he can muscle up and make it next year.