JohnC Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Doc said: Sure it worked out for him. Again that's not the issue. The question is whether it will work out for the Raiders because he's a whack-job now? He may be an insufferable diva but that doesn't make him a whack job. I wouldn't want him on my team but without a doubt he is one of the best receivers, if not the best receiver, in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, JohnC said: He may be an insufferable diva but that doesn't make him a whack job. I wouldn't want him on my team but without a doubt he is one of the best receivers, if not the best receiver, in the game. His behavior has become odd. And I also didn't want him, because he quit on the Steelers and they have a top franchise with a HOF QB. I don't see it ending well for the Raiders (and it's not starting off well) but that's why they play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Doc said: Yeah, and if the Bills had signed him, you’d have been the first to say something snarky like “didn’t take him long to start dogging it with his new team...” If he dogged it, sure. But then come week 1 when the actual bullets fly, we would all be quite happy to have the leagues best WR paired with Josh’s big arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: If he dogged it, sure. But then come week 1 when the actual bullets fly, we would all be quite happy to have the leagues best WR paired with Josh’s big arm. He dogged it in Pgh and Gruden thinks he's dogging it now. And while I didn't want him because of what he pulled in Pgh, if the Bills traded for him, obviously I would have pulled for him to do well. But wouldn't have been surprised if it blew up. Edited August 3, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: He dogged it in Pgh and Gruden thinks he's dogging it now. And while I didn't want him because of what he pulled in Pgh, if the Bills traded for him, obviously I would have pulled for him to do well. But wouldn't have been surprised if it blew up. He quit on his team in Pitt--he wanted out of there. Yet he still racked up numbers: 103/1300/15. In Oakland, again, it's camp. The moment he put on a Raiders jersey, he was the best WR to wear one since Jerry Rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 stiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: If I had any confidence in front office contracts I'd say that in discussion they including clauses which would protect them from him repeating the holdout for another raise but as we can see with Big Stuff contracts from Bills do not have those type of clauses. How would you word a clause that prevents a player form holding out? They are already fined per day of missed camp and forfeit a paycheck each game week and lose a year towards free agency of the don't show up by week 10. What would you add that would prevent this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinnessron Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Wow is he a garbage person and teammate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Hm. Random foot issue that looks like blisters and needs a specialist? Is it possible his personality leprocy has spread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: If he dogged it, sure. But then come week 1 when the actual bullets fly, we would all be quite happy to have the leagues best WR paired with Josh’s big arm. Issue here is that he is not in a 100 meter sprint performing all by himself. If he is not playing to the playbook, with his QB and other WRs, he wont be maximizing the offense's probability of success. Clearly he is one of the most talented WRs in the league (with JJones and the like) but ultimately, their offense's success will be determined by how well the team plays together. Surely you understand that and I am surprised that you are excusing his continued selfish behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 10:59 PM, LSHMEAB said: That's like getting advice from OJ on how to make a marriage work. You, you are good 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said: Issue here is that he is not in a 100 meter sprint performing all by himself. If he is not playing to the playbook, with his QB and other WRs, he wont be maximizing the offense's probability of success. Clearly he is one of the most talented WRs in the league (with JJones and the like) but ultimately, their offense's success will be determined by how well the team plays together. Surely you understand that and I am surprised that you are excusing his continued selfish behavior. I'm not excusing it---I called him out as quitting on his team back when the Bills were trying to get him a few months ago. I'm pointing out that it probably doesn't much matter if he's missing a few days of camp. He was cleared to come back, and he did, then he went out again. Carr (who's a dead man walking anyway) says he and AB spent many hours throwing to AB this off season. He's not losing his mind over this. Plus he was already on the NFI list before camp and was expected to miss the beginning of camp. This is just the case of some posters here making hay over this in order to (hilariously) claim, "good thing we didn't sign this guy!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 Oh noes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh noes are they going to try removing it from his mouth? 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh noes Good luck Raiders. You made your bed, now sleep in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plastic Cup Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 hours ago, whatdrought said: Hm. Random foot issue that looks like blisters and needs a specialist? Is it possible his personality leprocy has spread? Every moment of this POS’ train wreck in Oakland should be savored like a fine wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He quit on his team in Pitt--he wanted out of there. Yet he still racked up numbers: 103/1300/15. In Oakland, again, it's camp. The moment he put on a Raiders jersey, he was the best WR to wear one since Jerry Rice. I don't care what his excuse is: I don't want a quitter on my team. If he can pull it with Pgh, he can pull it with anyone. And we'll see where his career goes from here. I think you'll agree catching passes from Big Ben will be different than from Carr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Doc said: I don't care what his excuse is: I don't want a quitter on my team. If he can pull it with Pgh, he can pull it with anyone. And we'll see where his career goes from here. I think you'll agree catching passes from Big Ben will be different than from Carr. i agreed to that some time ago. If Carr plays like Carr again, he's gone. I bet Chuckie can't wait to move on. McBeane would have had that quitter on the team for the right price for sure. Edited August 4, 2019 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: i agreed to that some time ago. If Carr plays like Carr again, he's gone. I bet Chuckie can't wait to move on. McBeane would have had that quitter on the team for the right price for sure. Sure, but a price/contract that would have been easy to get out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 8:30 PM, BringBackFergy said: You keep thinking that....then take a look at the mess Mayock created with the cap in two years. Beane won and all he had to do was feign interest. YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 If true, AB sucks. Dude makes millions and won't even pay $7000, a lot for expenses so not even for the trainer's fees but hotels and such? Low class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 If that trainer was responsible for the frostbite , AB should sue him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 There are s**t storms and then there's the Raiders and Brown, which are more of a force 5 hurricane. Hurricane Sh*trina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 On 8/2/2019 at 2:58 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: Did something happen with OJ? He seemed so nice in Naked Gun. He was, but the sequel, Naked Knife, caused nothing but problems for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) Feed me lots of crow on this one. Luckily we dodged A.B.ullet... Edited August 13, 2019 by Figster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share Posted August 15, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 You always pay the working man and you don't slow pay them. Doing so shows a serious lack of class. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 He had to save his shekels up for the hot air balloon ride...that's not cheap people, especially in Cali!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 sounds like a garbage human being 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 When dealing with characters like AB there is a simple solution for the service providers: Get paid in advance or at the minimum require a significant down payment before agreeing to dealing with these wretched scofflaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 5:12 AM, RobbRiddick said: There are s**t storms and then there's the Raiders and Brown, which are more of a force 5 hurricane. Hurricane Sh*trina. ...so then we should forget a GoFundMe page?......just askin'..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 5:12 AM, RobbRiddick said: There are s**t storms and then there's the Raiders and Brown, which are more of a force 5 hurricane. Hurricane Sh*trina. You stole that from Mr. Lahey, didn’t you?...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: You stole that from Mr. Lahey, didn’t you?...? Who's Mr Lahey? All my material is 100% original! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I think he’s misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I think he’s misunderstood. More like he misunderstood that you need to pay for services rendered. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Maybe there has been some confusion in the media. Everyone thinks he said he wasnt going to play if he couldnt wear his old helmet. Maybe what he actually said was he wasnt going to pay.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 CTE. He hasn’t been the same since Burfict clocked him in that playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Remember when Antonio Brown played for the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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