Hedge Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hedge said: Not to worry Liz. It may have been on national TV but only 12 people were watching. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hedge said: LOL. Reminds me of a Curb episode with Bernie as Larry and Steyer as Super Dave. "I just want to say hi Bernie." --- "Yeah good, okay." The whole thing is very odd as it looks like to me they think they're both telling the truth. 12 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Not to worry Liz. It may have been on national TV but only 12 people were watching. 7.3 million apparently. More than double the population of Iowa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: 7.3 million apparently. More than double the population of Iowa. But how many of those 7.3 Million were in Iowa or in California/New York/Illinois/New England? 7.3 Million. To put that into context: 134.7 Million people voted in 2016. 7.3 Million, or 5.4% of voters watched the Democrat debate 65.8 Million people voted for Clinton in 2016. 7.3 Million, 11% of Democrat voters watched the Democrat debate 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Hedge said: Some nerve, or just obtuse sociopathic narcissism. “You called me a liar on national TV.” Have you heard what you have called other people your whole public life? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, /dev/null said: But how many of those 7.3 Million were in Iowa or in California/New York/Illinois/New England? 7.3 Million. To put that into context: 134.7 Million people voted in 2016. 7.3 Million, or 5.4% of voters watched the Democrat debate 65.8 Million people voted for Clinton in 2016. 7.3 Million, 11% of Democrat voters watched the Democrat debate The Republican primary debates in 2011-2012 averaged around 5 million viewers so I'm assuming only the political junkies are actually interested in these primary debates (unless Trump is involved of course). It'll skyrocket once the nominee is chosen and the presidential debates happen. That's why the media spin and the headlines that follow are usually more important than the debate itself. Most malleable voters start paying attention to the two possible candidates after labor day of the election year. Edited January 16, 2020 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Hedge said: I don't really see why that is bad on Sanders. To me it looks far worse for Warren. She approached him. They pretty much called each other liars during the debate,. She can't hold back long enough to have the discussion another time or just let it roll off her back? Some people might see that as emotional, reckless or impulsive. I think she was probably planning on an open mike and hoping to get more. The part that looks bad for Sanders is an inability to process and think on his feet. He should have been able to be polite to Steyer. And the response to Warren should have been "For Pete's sake Liz you called yourself Native American for 40 years and got caught. Everyone on the planet already knows you're a liar". Her little "gotcha" with the 30 years versus 31 years was a setup he fell into because he is a doddering old commie. It wasn't too classy on her part though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: I don't really see why that is bad on Sanders. To me it looks far worse for Warren. She approached him. They pretty much called each other liars during the debate,. She can't hold back long enough to have the discussion another time or just let it roll off her back? Some people might see that as emotional, reckless or impulsive. I think she was probably planning on an open mike and hoping to get more. The part that looks bad for Sanders is an inability to process and think on his feet. He should have been able to be polite to Steyer. And the response to Warren should have been "For Pete's sake Liz you called yourself Native American for 40 years and got caught. Everyone on the planet already knows you're a liar". Her little "gotcha" with the 30 years versus 31 years was a setup he fell into because he is a doddering old commie. It wasn't too classy on her part though. …..FINALLY!!….an utterance of truth from the "FOSSIL Fuelers"...………. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Doc Brown said: The whole thing is very odd as it looks like to me they think they're both telling the truth. 7.3 million apparently. More than double the population of Iowa. Here’s a good indicator. I came here during the debate to get a “blow by blow”. There was nothing and all we talk here is politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Hedge said: He should have said “you ARE a liar”. Warren is the phoniest candidate remaining and that’s her anchor. She’s trying desperately to be perfect. That ship sailed. The best part of that clip was Steyer trying to shake Bernie’s hand and getting treated like a shitheel. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, snafu said: He should have said “you ARE a liar”. Warren is the phoniest candidate remaining and that’s her anchor. She’s trying desperately to be perfect. That ship sailed. The best part of that clip was Steyer trying to shake Bernie’s hand and getting treated like a shitheel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 absolutely disgusting. https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1217959733803585536 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Foxx said: absolutely disgusting. https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1217959733803585536 Wait. So, are you telling me that all of the applauding during the debate was coming from the media? (of course, it was!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Foxx said: absolutely disgusting. https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1217959733803585536 "Democrat-media human centipede" Brilliant! I'm definitely stealing that! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hedge said: Wait. So, are you telling me that all of the applauding during the debate was coming from the media? (of course, it was!) i figured it was canned. prolly a combination of the two, along with 'applause' signs so the media knew just when to clap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Foxx said: absolutely disgusting. https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1217959733803585536 Well you can't take the risk of having spontaneous audience reactions from actual citizens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 hours ago, keepthefaith said: Well you can't take the risk of having spontaneous audience reactions from actual citizens. Not at democrat debates. They would have crayon eaters like Tibs, aka Kyle Jurek ranting like the lunatics they are. Have to create a facade of sanity to fool the sheeple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 Are Democrats’ new debate rules another establishment ‘fix’? New York Post, by Editorial Original Article . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 Democrats prepare for New Hampshire debate as urgency rises https://apnews.com/fe831dcada14e355d635709d021ec985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 ? . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 After the mess of Iowa, the chance to break away in New Hampshire, an opportunity to fatally wound Biden before he gets to his South Carolina firewall... ...and they're all talking unity. This crowd couldn't generate excitement in a bordello if they had a case of Tres Agaves tequila and a few dozen little blue pills. They're still talking about turnout. Still. I blame the moderators. And the candidates. And the Democratic party as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 This is the part where the candidates argue over the minutia of their various health care plans which would never make it through Congress as-is anyway. It's the worst part. The best thing I can say is, at least we're getting it out of the way earlier in the debate instead of later. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Tough question to Warren, who promises that if elected she'll launch an even bigger witchhunt against ex-president Trump. Q to Yang: WHY WON'T YOU PURSUE AN EVEN BIGGER WITCHHUNT AGAINST TRUMP??? Because he isn't an idiot. Sanders however, is all on board: WE WILL PURSUE THE PEOPLE'S JUSTICE AGAINST TRUMP AND HIS MENSHEVIK ENABLERS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Buttigieg says he would not have taken out Suleimani Biden also wouldn't have ordered the strike on Suleimani. Next question tried to set the stage for a Pete vs Joe fight over the vote to go to war in Iraq in 2003. Buttigieg isn't taking the bait, but MAN did Biden stand up straight to listen. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Violent crime continues its quarter-century decline, while gun ownership has exploded. Yet they still have this gun control fetish. It's a totalitarian impulse. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) This is great entertainment. I see a very common theme. Pandering to minorities to get votes, then do nothing to help them. Edited February 8, 2020 by RaoulDuke79 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 LOL...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) Well at least we know America is racist now. Wow....what a theme. Is this an actual debate or or a forum about racism. Last grasp effort....shameful. Edited February 8, 2020 by RaoulDuke79 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 So a debate on a Friday night? Very 2016-like. I suppose the schedule makers determined months ago that by now Joe would have a good lead and they didn't want to give Bernie and Liz a chance in front of a large audience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Is this an actual debate or or a forum about racism Neither. It's an infomercial meant to frighten non-white people and agitate virtue signalers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Well at least we know America is racist now. Wow....what a theme. Is this an actual debate or or a forum about racism. Last grasp effort....shameful. Only people who vote against Democrats are racist: Racists want a strong, properly-equipped military. Racists want border security. Racists want black assault weapons to oppress other firearms of color. Racists want strong economies. Racists want fair trade deals. Racists want to live in peace, prosperity, and safety. Racists want to keep the racist money they earn by being racists. People who don't vote for Democrats - selfishly wasting their vote for racist self-interest - are just the worst sort of racist actual literal super mecha-Nazis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Trashing America as racist won’t help Democrats beat Trump by John Podhoretz Original Article The Democrats are lucky the February debate in New Hampshire took place on a Friday night, when relatively few were watching — because if they wanted to deliver the message to the working-class white people who delivered the upper Midwest and the presidency to Donald Trump in 2016 that they should stick with him rather than voting blue in November, they did a brilliant job of it. Mayor Pete Takes Heat, Biden Fumbles, Democrats Wink at Socialism in NH Debate by Tyler O´Neil Original Article At the New Hampshire Democratic debate on Friday — who schedules a debate on a Friday?! — the knives came out for former Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D-Church of Social Justice), the winner (?) of the Iowa caucuses. Candidates also took shots at Sen. Bernie Sanders (S-USSR) — the second-place (?) finisher — over Medicare for All. Former Vice President Joe Biden needed a strong showing but fumbled right after the kickoff.The candidates all went after President Donald Trump to one degree or another, repeated tired Democratic mantras against free speech in politics (Citizens United), originalist judges and justices, and the right to life. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 THAT WAS THE DEBATE THAT WAS: Mayor Pete Takes Heat, Biden Fumbles, Dems Wink at Socialism in NH Debate. UPDATE (FROM GLENN): Related: HOW YOU CAN TELL THAT MIKE BLOOMBERG IS THROWING A LOT OF MONEY AROUND: 35Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 In the new NPR/Marist poll, Bernie is at 31% and second-place goes to Bloomberg, who gets 19%, enough to put him in tomorrow's debate. Bloomberg needed a 4th poll giving him at least 10% nationally, and now he has it. 3rd and 4th places go to Biden (15%) and Warren (12%), and both of them are moving downward — Biden down 9 points and Warren down 5. Buttigieg and Klobuchar are both below 10% — the cut-off point for qualifying for the debate if you're qualifying on national polls. (You can also qualify for this debate by hitting 12% in 2 polls from SC or Nevada or by having already won a delegate. Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar, and Biden have all won delegates — 23, 21, 8, 7, and 6, respectively.) High stakes for tomorrow's debate! This is where people will decide if Bloomberg deserves to become the focus of all the stop-Bernie action. If he doesn't, that action will continue to be diffused over 5 candidates, unless one of the other 4 — Buttigieg, Warren, Klobuchar, or Biden — suddenly emerges as the one to back. It's hard to see how anyone other than Bloomberg has a shot at becoming The One, so the anti-Bernie anti-Trumpsters have got to be looking at Bloomberg with an absurd amount of expectation. It's hard to see how he can do well enough in the debate for that to happen. I think the 5 — that is, all the Democratic non-Bernies — will simply try to keep a majority away from Bernie and position themselves to win at the convention. That's 5 months away. And then there are only 3 1/2 months before the election. Democrats need a way to get through the next 5 months without devolving into brand-destroying chaos. Unless Buttigieg, Warren, Klobuchar, and Biden get together and pick one of them to go forward, the answer is going to be Bloomberg. Unless he's awful at that debate. And won't Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar, and Biden all try to make him look awful? Bloomberg qualifies for Las Vegas debate, facing Democratic rivals for first time by Emily Jacobs Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, B-Man said: In the new NPR/Marist poll, Bernie is at 31% and second-place goes to Bloomberg, who gets 19%, enough to put him in tomorrow's debate. At quick glance I read that as, "In the new NPR/Marxist poll, Bernie is at 31%" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, B-Man said: In the new NPR/Marist poll, Bernie is at 31% and second-place goes to Bloomberg, who gets 19%, enough to put him in tomorrow's debate. Bloomberg needed a 4th poll giving him at least 10% nationally, and now he has it. 3rd and 4th places go to Biden (15%) and Warren (12%), and both of them are moving downward — Biden down 9 points and Warren down 5. Buttigieg and Klobuchar are both below 10% — the cut-off point for qualifying for the debate if you're qualifying on national polls. (You can also qualify for this debate by hitting 12% in 2 polls from SC or Nevada or by having already won a delegate. Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar, and Biden have all won delegates — 23, 21, 8, 7, and 6, respectively.) High stakes for tomorrow's debate! This is where people will decide if Bloomberg deserves to become the focus of all the stop-Bernie action. If he doesn't, that action will continue to be diffused over 5 candidates, unless one of the other 4 — Buttigieg, Warren, Klobuchar, or Biden — suddenly emerges as the one to back. It's hard to see how anyone other than Bloomberg has a shot at becoming The One, so the anti-Bernie anti-Trumpsters have got to be looking at Bloomberg with an absurd amount of expectation. It's hard to see how he can do well enough in the debate for that to happen. I think the 5 — that is, all the Democratic non-Bernies — will simply try to keep a majority away from Bernie and position themselves to win at the convention. That's 5 months away. And then there are only 3 1/2 months before the election. Democrats need a way to get through the next 5 months without devolving into brand-destroying chaos. Unless Buttigieg, Warren, Klobuchar, and Biden get together and pick one of them to go forward, the answer is going to be Bloomberg. Unless he's awful at that debate. And won't Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar, and Biden all try to make him look awful? Bloomberg qualifies for Las Vegas debate, facing Democratic rivals for first time by Emily Jacobs Original Article Not that there's anything wrong with it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Someone should ask Bernie if getting fVcked in the ass by his own the second time hurts as much as the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Bloomberg Qualifies for Las Vegas Debate Thanks to Last Minute Poll. “Much like Lori Laughlin’s daughter qualified for USC,” Iowahawk quips in response . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Albwan said: Not that there's anything wrong with it When he turns and you see his tail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 32ABBA said: When he turns and you see his tail... So if I was running for President (or dog catcher) and my campaign manager came to me and said "this is what's on your agenda today." My response would be "no it's not" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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