Beast Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Looking for anyone’s insight concerning this issue....if anyone has heard any information. Subscribers to DirecTv know that many have lost, or will lose, local channels, which carry NFL games. Here in the Binghamton area, we have lost FOX, NBC, ABC and the rumor is we are about to lose CBS. With starting that, how in hell will DirecTv be able to air any games at all? The only station left that carries games will be ESPN, and that has nothing to do with the Sunday Ticket. It seems like the NFL should be able to pull the rights away from DirecTv. I am getting rid of this come the beginning of September if the local channels aren’t back on the air and I highly doubt they will be with the way this company does business since AT&T took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 not sure.... but that royally sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Looking for anyone’s insight concerning this issue....if anyone has heard any information. Subscribers to DirecTv know that many have lost, or will lose, local channels, which carry NFL games. Here in the Binghamton area, we have lost FOX, NBC, ABC and the rumor is we are about to lose CBS. With starting that, how in hell will DirecTv be able to air any games at all? The only station left that carries games will be ESPN, and that has nothing to do with the Sunday Ticket. It seems like the NFL should be able to pull the rights away from DirecTv. I am getting rid of this come the beginning of September if the local channels aren’t back on the air and I highly doubt they will be with the way this company does business since AT&T took over. Can you pick up those stations over the air? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuscott16 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Pretty sure direct TV just renewed their contract with the NFL. Can easily get the local stations for free over the air. May need an antenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Same concerns in Southern California. CBS is currently blacked out with DTV and are supposedly negotiating? This will effect Sunday Ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Only CBS-owned stations are blacked out on DrecTV and Uverse. Sunday Ticket doesn’t show games that are on your local CBS feed, so the current blackout of CBS-owned stations shouldn’t affect Sunday Ticket games. You won’t be able to watch the games on local CBS station on DTV, though. They’ll resolve it soon anyway. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Yeah, the DirectTV/AT&T monster is driving me crazy. My son and I really enjoy programs on the Smithsonian channel. But, now that's blocked on a dispute with CBS. I really wish there was a better option for watching the NFL games other than DirectTV. I live in Houston and I need it; they rarely show the Bills here, unless it's national (which is more rare!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 45 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Looking for anyone’s insight concerning this issue....if anyone has heard any information. Subscribers to DirecTv know that many have lost, or will lose, local channels, which carry NFL games. Here in the Binghamton area, we have lost FOX, NBC, ABC and the rumor is we are about to lose CBS. With starting that, how in hell will DirecTv be able to air any games at all? The only station left that carries games will be ESPN, and that has nothing to do with the Sunday Ticket. It seems like the NFL should be able to pull the rights away from DirecTv. I am getting rid of this come the beginning of September if the local channels aren’t back on the air and I highly doubt they will be with the way this company does business since AT&T took over. These are retransmission agreements with local affiliates, similar to what a cable company would have with them. The worst case scenario IF no agreement is reached ( unlikely imo) is that you would need a Leaf ( or similar) antenna to receive those channels. However, it will not affect your Sunday Ticket package as those are out of market games only. Not a big deal and just a lot of posturing by local affiliates to squeeze the best deal out of DirecTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: Looking for anyone’s insight concerning this issue....if anyone has heard any information. Subscribers to DirecTv know that many have lost, or will lose, local channels, which carry NFL games. Here in the Binghamton area, we have lost FOX, NBC, ABC and the rumor is we are about to lose CBS. With starting that, how in hell will DirecTv be able to air any games at all? The only station left that carries games will be ESPN, and that has nothing to do with the Sunday Ticket. It seems like the NFL should be able to pull the rights away from DirecTv. I am getting rid of this come the beginning of September if the local channels aren’t back on the air and I highly doubt they will be with the way this company does business since AT&T took over. That is the reason I got rid of that disaster of a company many years ago. I’m only an hour north of you (Norwich) local channels weren’t available and more often than not Buffalo was the game carried in our market. Where I live over the air is blocked by mountain and trees so that’s also out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, psuscott16 said: Pretty sure direct TV just renewed their contract with the NFL. Can easily get the local stations for free over the air. May need an antenna. 5 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: These are retransmission agreements with local affiliates, similar to what a cable company would have with them. The worst case scenario IF no agreement is reached ( unlikely imo) is that you would need a Leaf ( or similar) antenna to receive those channels. However, it will not affect your Sunday Ticket package as those are out of market games only. Not a big deal and just a lot of posturing by local affiliates to squeeze the best deal out of DirecTV. How will it not effect out of market games when DirecTv has stopped carrying those networks around most of the country? Edited July 30, 2019 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: How will it not effect out of market games when DirecTv has stopped carrying those networks around most of the country? I'm pretty certain the local stations don't own the broadcast rights to NFL games...the NFL does. Sunday Ticket doesn't show you a "local" feed -- you see no local ads during those broadcasts, only national ones. This issue only impacts watching the particular local station in your viewing area. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfBubbleGum Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Since the FCC got rid of VHF frequencies, my house is out of transmission distance from Buffalo and Erie. I buy the Sunday Ticket. If that goes away, there isn't much keeping me with Directv. Free to air, the larger satellite dishes carry all of the local stations from across the USA, for free. That will be my future route. As far as the rest of the cable stations, a subscription can be bought for those. Then again, I do have Netflix and Amazon Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I'm going to call DTV for my annual "give me credits" discussion soon -- I'll be sure to bring up the local channel issue in an effort to squeeze more out of them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Since I moved to a place for work I can’t get Direct TV, so the installer of my TV’s told me about a Canadian website that is legit costs $25 a month and you can get all the games. I know not the best to watch on an I Pad, but it’s that or go to a freakin bar which I don’t want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Since I moved to a place for work I can’t get Direct TV, so the installer of my TV’s told me about a Canadian website that is legit costs $25 a month and you can get all the games. I know not the best to watch on an I Pad, but it’s that or go to a freakin bar which I don’t want to do. And the website is? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I Am going to work now, but will look up when I get home tonight. No problem eball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) This will be a non issue. Your thinking of two completely separate broadcast rights. The only thing that would be blacked out is local games, which were blacked out on DTV Sunday Ticket anyways. That amounts to two or three games a week subject to blackout, which are the two or three carried by your local CBS and FOX affiliates. The remaining games weren’t blacked out then, and will not be now. The local CBS and FOX affiliates only have the rights to air one game locally each at a time. Those will be the ones subject to blackout. Edited July 30, 2019 by Bills2ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: This will be a non issue. Your thinking of two completely separate broadcast rights. The only thing that would be blacked out is local games, which were blacked out on DTV Sunday Ticket anyways. That amounts to two or three games a week subject to blackout, which are the two or three carried by your local CBS and FOX affiliates. The remaining games weren’t blacked out then, and will not be now. The local CBS and FOX affiliates only have the rights to air one game locally each at a time. Those will be the ones subject to blackout. Sadly for me, I’m in the NYC tri state area where Jets and Giants are the local teams. Those are our first 2 games of the season!! Could you believe if I couldn’t watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: Sadly for me, I’m in the NYC tri state area where Jets and Giants are the local teams. Those are our first 2 games of the season!! Could you believe if I couldn’t watch? Definitely OTA Antenna that stuff. You should get good reception in that area. I couldn’t imagine not watching the games. This DIRECTV blackout stuff has pushed me to start looking at streaming options again. Unfortunately, I need something with MSG WNY for Sabres games, NFL Network, NFL Redzone and Disney JR. Which pushes me into the $50 price range that I pay DTV anyways ?♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: This will be a non issue. Your thinking of two completely separate broadcast rights. The only thing that would be blacked out is local games, which were blacked out on DTV Sunday Ticket anyways. That amounts to two or three games a week subject to blackout, which are the two or three carried by your local CBS and FOX affiliates. The remaining games weren’t blacked out then, and will not be now. The local CBS and FOX affiliates only have the rights to air one game locally each at a time. Those will be the ones subject to blackout. this is 100% accurate. For instance, in Richmond , Nexstar only owns the ABC affiliate. Trust me, this will be worked out before football starts..you can bet your right nut on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: I Am going to work now, but will look up when I get home tonight. No problem eball. I'd like to get that website also please when you get chance. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: This will be a non issue. Your thinking of two completely separate broadcast rights. The only thing that would be blacked out is local games, which were blacked out on DTV Sunday Ticket anyways. That amounts to two or three games a week subject to blackout, which are the two or three carried by your local CBS and FOX affiliates. The remaining games weren’t blacked out then, and will not be now. The local CBS and FOX affiliates only have the rights to air one game locally each at a time. Those will be the ones subject to blackout. ^^^ 10 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: Sadly for me, I’m in the NYC tri state area where Jets and Giants are the local teams. Those are our first 2 games of the season!! Could you believe if I couldn’t watch? This is what makes this NOT "a non issue". If your favorite team, ie Bills, play a team that's considered a local team, you lose that game. For Nick, it's NOT just the first 2 games of the season but also the second Bills-Jets game -- and potentially the Bills game when the Jets have a bye unless both teams have their byes during the same week. There's a lesser chance that another Bills game might also be lost if the Bills played one of the other NFL East teams during the Giants' bye week and the local FOX affiliate picked up that game. IIRC, the local stations in the Binghamton area where Beast lives also consider the Jets and Giants as their "local teams". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Good luck with that. Call them and demand they not black put football games in your region BECAUSE they failed to provide services of local channels. (Good luck with that.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said: How will it not effect out of market games when DirecTv has stopped carrying those networks around most of the country? The games are broadcast nationally by CBS and FOX, then local affiliates, then pick it up to broadcast locally to them. So as was stated, you'll just lose the local games. But for the OP living in the Birmingham area, could be many Bills games. Certainly the locals are either going to pick up the Bills, or Jet's or Giants. Since the 1st two games they play each other, an antenna may be the only option. 15 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: this is 100% accurate. For instance, in Richmond , Nexstar only owns the ABC affiliate. Trust me, this will be worked out before football starts..you can bet your right nut on that I live in NC and about 5 years ago DTV and the local NBC station had a little tiff and was off the DTV lineup. But shockingly the contract was resolved about three hours before kickoff and the games were on. About 3 years ago, last year I had DTV as a matter of fact, same thing happened with local FOX network. Figured same thing would happen and all would be resolved by opening kickoff. Not this time. Went on about 3 to 4 weeks into the season no games on Fox. The remaining games were all on DTV in the 800 range, but whatever games were broadcast locally, you were out of luck unless you had an antenna. So wouldn't say it will be worked out! Just remember, DTV is doing this for you the consumer so the local stations don't charge unreasonable broadcast fees!! Call your local stations and complain to them!! What I don't understand is this happens once in awhile with cable, but seems like it's becoming a regular thing and for longer periods of time with DTV. Not that it bothers me as 2 1/2 years ago dumped DTV, now have an antenna with TIVO and good old Reddit for their version of Sunday Ticket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Good luck with that. Call them and demand they not black put football games in your region BECAUSE they failed to provide services of local channels. (Good luck with that.) Yeah, obviously they don’t give a *****. I went on their FB page and read comments that their customer service people are actually telling people to drop DirecTv if they are unhappy. Since AT&T took over, that company has changed in a bad way. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Can you drive your home and park it in Syracuse? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Yeah, obviously they don’t give a *****. I went on their FB page and read comments that their customer service people are actually telling people to drop DirecTv if they are unhappy. Since AT&T took over, that company has changed in a bad way. that company has changed. The level of "in a bad way" is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I live in NC and about 5 years ago DTV and the local NBC station had a little tiff and was off the DTV lineup. But shockingly the contract was resolved about three hours before kickoff and the games were on. About 3 years ago, last year I had DTV as a matter of fact, same thing happened with local FOX network. Figured same thing would happen and all would be resolved by opening kickoff. Not this time. Went on about 3 to 4 weeks into the season no games on Fox. i think the difference this time is just how large Nexstar is..they own like 180 stations...prolly a good chuck of them Fox and CBS affiliates. Both sides will get murdered if regular season games are blacked out. I would even suspect they are waiting to see what happens on the preseason games..both national and local. Nest Thursday i assume CBS has the Hall of Fame game...people gunna be pissed if first NFL action of the year is blacked out. Can take that to the local games as well. In Richmond, ABC broadcasts the Skins preseason games...gunna be some cranky people if that first preseon games is not on.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Can you drive your home and park it in Syracuse? Shirley, you jest!!! Not unless he has a Syracuse Zip Code. I forgot to mention...... Do you have a "newer" TV? Purchase a DIGITAL antenna for watching Local TV stations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Does anyone have Hulu live? Was thinking of getting, so that I can dvr some of the games while im at work. Also heard you can use these creds to sign into espn app to watch replays of a ton of other content. Not sure its worth $50 a month though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Does this affect DirecTV Now, the streaming service? That's what I have and I have CBS as of yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Shirley, you jest!!! Not unless he has a Syracuse Zip Code. I forgot to mention...... Do you have a "newer" TV? Purchase a DIGITAL antenna for watching Local TV stations He can replace the dish with a digital antenna and pick up CBS in a park closer to Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: He can replace the dish with a digital antenna and pick up CBS in a park closer to Buffalo the correct answer is digital antenna. (somewhat) What is confusing the topic .... (or I read this whole thing wrong) His local stations are blacked out and he can't get the Bills because of it. IF he is watching (or has the ability to) Bills games on the local affiliate the digital antenna works from home. No need to get closer to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: the correct answer is digital antenna. (somewhat) What is confusing the topic .... (or I read this whole thing wrong) His local stations are blacked out and he can't get the Bills because of it. IF he is watching (or has the ability to) Bills games on the local affiliate the digital antenna works from home. No need to get closer to Buffalo. They aren’t blacked out. DTV won’t carry CBS. I thought the guy said he was somewhere where there is no over the air reception for network broadcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Not sure what this is. Directv has local channels with the exception of sometimes you lose a station temporarily over contract disputes and as far as I can tell is never permanent. Sometimes inconvenient, sure. Directv is not planning to dump all network channels are they? 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: Since I moved to a place for work I can’t get Direct TV, so the installer of my TV’s told me about a Canadian website that is legit costs $25 a month and you can get all the games. I know not the best to watch on an I Pad, but it’s that or go to a freakin bar which I don’t want to do. With a little work you can get it on the tv.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: They aren’t blacked out. DTV won’t carry CBS. I thought the guy said he was somewhere where there is no over the air reception for network broadcast "blacked out" as in selling out the stadium requirement has changed recently Lets say he can get the local feeds on DTV. I'll use the local DC area as an example. IF the Bills were playing in Washington DC or Baltimore, 99.999% of the time the local affiliate will carry the game, then the NFL Ticket allocated channel (say 705) is "blacked out" because the game is being aired locally. Game Blacked Out on a DIRECTV Channel - DIRECTV Support - AT&T https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/directv/KM1022959 Blacked out games on NFL SUNDAY TICKET In general, you receive all games outside your local market unless your local FOX or CBS station shows the game. A regular season Sunday afternoon home game could also be blacked out in the home team's territory if the game fails to sell out 72 hours before kickoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, mattynh said: Not sure what this is. Directv has local channels with the exception of sometimes you lose a station temporarily over contract disputes and as far as I can tell is never permanent. Sometimes inconvenient, sure. Directv is not planning to dump all network channels are they? With a little work you can get it on the tv.... Well, currently certain markets have lost FOX and CBS on DIRECTV. It has been on going for weeks now with no end in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: "blacked out" as in selling out the stadium requirement has changed recently Lets say he can get the local feeds on DTV. I'll use the local DC area as an example. IF the Bills were playing in Washington DC or Baltimore, 99.999% of the time the local affiliate will carry the game, then the NFL Ticket allocated channel (say 705) is "blacked out" because the game is being aired locally. Game Blacked Out on a DIRECTV Channel - DIRECTV Support - AT&T https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/directv/KM1022959 Blacked out games on NFL SUNDAY TICKET In general, you receive all games outside your local market unless your local FOX or CBS station shows the game. A regular season Sunday afternoon home game could also be blacked out in the home team's territory if the game fails to sell out 72 hours before kickoff. The issue is that DTV refuses to carry his CBS affiliate at all... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The issue is that DTV refuses to carry his CBS affiliate at all... refuses ..... all they really want is $$$$$$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: refuses ..... all they really want is $$$$$$ True. Cable companies do the same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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