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Eagles sign Carson Wentz to 4 year, 128 mill extension

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3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I’m with ya. 1.15M I could’ve still stomached, but this, this just ain’t right—1.5M to play a game???:thumbsup:

 

 

Not just a game. A kid's game!!!!!!!!!!!!

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9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

Lot's of cash for a guy they have had to bring in a stunt-d**k for the money shot the past two seasons.

 

LOL...Eagles.

 

Harsh, but fair.

 

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We need to find Josh a supermodel to marry so he isn't worried about his contract.  Any ideas?

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Anybody know what Jim Kelly's highest-paid contract was?

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9 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said:

Anybody know what Jim Kelly's highest-paid contract was?

....courtesy of SPOTRAC.......

 

Year

Team Salary Signing Bonus Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Restructure Bonus Option Bonus Incentive Total Cash
1986 Player Cash Earnings $1,000,000 $2,000,000 - - - - - $3,000,000
1987 Player Cash Earnings $1,100,000 - - - - - - $1,100,000
1988 Player Cash Earnings $1,200,000 - - - - - - $1,200,000
1989 Player Cash Earnings $1,300,000 - - - - - - $1,300,000
1990 Player Cash Earnings $1,400,000 $3,000,000 - $100,000 - - - $4,500,000
1991 Player Cash Earnings $2,250,000 - - $100,000 - - - $2,350,000
1992 Player Cash Earnings $2,400,000 - - $100,000 - - - $2,500,000
1993 Player Cash Earnings $4,000,000 - - $100,000 - - - $4,100,000
1994 Player Cash Earnings $2,800,000 - - $100,000 - - - $2,900,000
1995 Player Cash Earnings $1,570,000 - - $100,000 $1,180,000 - - $2,850,000
1996 Player Cash Earnings $2,750,000 - - $165,000 - - - $2,915,000
11 seasons $21,770,000 $5,000,000 - $765,000 $1,180,000 - - $28,715,000
Edited by OldTimeAFLGuy

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11 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I'm so confused about this contract. Why are they doing this now?

Philly.  Although it’s a unfounded conclusion on my part, their decision making always strikes me as ‘Raiders Lite’.

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11 hours ago, Augie said:

 

But takes the Brady approach and settles for a fraction of what he’s worth in the pursuit of rings! 

 

Hey, a guy can hope! 

 

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Brady is getting paid under the table and the Patriots are circumventing the salary cap. I'm 100% sure this is happing and it will be the cherry on top of their decade of cheating when it comes out. 

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11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think I’d wait at least one more year given his injury history. 

 

 

 

I will not judge too much right now because you have a CBA deal coming up and if the owners feel like the overall salary cap and players percentages are going to go up - getting the deal done now before the CBA could save them huge money in a year or two.  

 

We also do not know what is going to become of things like the franchise tag or if there is a strike/lockout that costs the players/owners part of the year and they lose a lot of valuable contract time or even a contract year if the walk out/strike  happens after game 1.

 

The smart money was to get ahead of any of the potential CBA issues and get a deal done in today’s dollars and protect yourself and the team from any potential issues.

 

We will see long term if it was the smartest move or not based on his play.

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1 hour ago, eball said:

We need to find Josh a supermodel to marry so he isn't worried about his contract.  Any ideas?

 

He can have one of mine. 

 

I really think Philly jumped the gun here.  I am less of a Wentz fan than most, but even putting that aside there was plenty of time to do a deal like this.   It’s not like he gave a big discount.  He was in the last year of his rookie deal and lined up for a season to prove he could stay healthy and show what HE could do in the playoffs.  Now they’re stuck with him regardless of further injury or faltering on the big stage.

 

Usually I’d say that this was a move by a GM who had his wagon hitched to this QB and would be out anyway if that QB failed.  But that’s not even the case here.  It’s odd.   

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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

They pay him now they get him for $26 mill a year. Wait a year and you end up paying him Luck money, assuming he works out. And the consensus is he will. Though you're right there are injury concerns.

 

Yeah I get why they figured they should pay him now, but if he keeps missing games (he had injury problems in college as well), the savings isn't justified.  I'd let him play out the deal and that savings would off-set what they'd have to pay him in 2021 and beyond, while seeing whether he can actually stay healthy for a whole season.

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11 hours ago, hemma said:

would seem to me that the players’ union would want to restrict any max contract to no more than  .... say ....11% of cap, so that the rest would be spread out among the rest of the team.

 

not sure if I’m a closet communist or just jealous of somebody getting 30 mill for playing a game.

I don't think that doing that would be a great idea, but it does seem that when the union agreed to a rookie scale, the bulk of the money saved went to quarterbacks (and of course whoever Whaley would waste it on).

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2 hours ago, eball said:

We need to find Josh a supermodel to marry so he isn't worried about his contract.  Any ideas?

His girlfriend qualifies imo

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Not a fan of the risk/reward ratio behind this move.  I get that QB contracts are only going to continue to go up astronomically, but with the value of having talented young passers on rookie contracts, why hamstring yourself with a guy with an injury history.  The downside of waiting another year is probably $15-20M over the life of the contract.  The upside is possibly saving the $70M that you just guaranteed if he gets hurt again or never approaches his level of play due to nagging injuries/pain.  

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1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

 

He can have one of mine. 

 

I really think Philly jumped the gun here.  I am less of a Wentz fan than most, but even putting that aside there was plenty of time to do a deal like this.   It’s not like he gave a big discount.  He was in the last year of his rookie deal and lined up for a season to prove he could stay healthy and show what HE could do in the playoffs.  Now they’re stuck with him regardless of further injury or faltering on the big stage.

 

Usually I’d say that this was a move by a GM who had his wagon hitched to this QB and would be out anyway if that QB failed.  But that’s not even the case here.  It’s odd.   

 

The Eagles were in a bit of a pickle.  They let Foles -- a bonified Philly legend now -- walk away for nothing, and they have a fan base who really likes Wentz but are also uneasy.  They needed to send a message to Wentz, the fan base, and the team that Carson is "their guy."  I think they needed to do this even though it is admittedly a risk.

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14 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

As much as I believe Wentz is the real deal and will bounce back from injury, this seems premature. What risk did they run by simply putting it off for another year? I'd rather pay a few more mil per after a healthy season than make this kind of investment NOW.

 

I'm with you on this. I'll be honest: it's fun watching him play in the local Philly games I can watch. When he was clicking in 2017, and even in 2016 he was exciting to watch, and he could do some unbelievable things with the ball.

 

That said, he has had season ending injuries in the playoffs in back to back years, and has never taken a postseason snap. Things clearly weren't clicking as well in 2018 as they were in 2017.

 

I would pony up the cash if we had him, but they had two more years to hold onto him. I honestly didn't see the issue with seeing how he did this year before throwing cash at him. The Eagles are looking to win *now*

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15 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

As much as I believe Wentz is the real deal and will bounce back from injury, this seems premature. What risk did they run by simply putting it off for another year? I'd rather pay a few more mil per after a healthy season than make this kind of investment NOW.

 

Absolutely. 

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2 hours ago, eball said:

 

The Eagles were in a bit of a pickle.  They let Foles -- a bonified Philly legend now -- walk away for nothing, and they have a fan base who really likes Wentz but are also uneasy.  They needed to send a message to Wentz, the fan base, and the team that Carson is "their guy."  I think they needed to do this even though it is admittedly a risk.

 

I can see that angle, but I don’t think the added risk of doing the deal a year ahead of time was worth it.  It’s probable that the contract isn’t quite as guaranteed as initial reports though.  I should really wait and see that before making a final judgement on it all. 

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Isn’t it enough that the QB has gotten the hottest cheerleaders his whole life???

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This is just insane to me.  I admit freely, the guy looked like a top 5 QB before he got hurt the first time.  But who knows if he’ll ever be back to that form or if that play was an anomaly.  

 

I get it. Someone would have paid him on the open market. 

 

But man, that’s a lot of money for a very small body of work and potential 

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32 minutes ago, Virgil said:

This is just insane to me.  I admit freely, the guy looked like a top 5 QB before he got hurt the first time.  But who knows if he’ll ever be back to that form or if that play was an anomaly.  

 

I get it. Someone would have paid him on the open market. 

 

But man, that’s a lot of money for a very small body of work and potential 

That is how I see it as well.  That is a lot of money for someone with a small resume and may be injury prone.

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The Eagles will regret this contract.  He's a slightly above average quarterback.  He injures often and he only throws the ball to Zach Ertz.  That's why Ertz has like 500 catches per year with Wentz around.   I guess they are paying for potential.  

 

Philadelphia loves him but IMO, the inconvenient truth is that Nick Foles is/was the better quarterback for Doug Pederson's offense.  

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Are they serious?!?   More than Montana for a guy that has proven NOTHING!!  He was hurt constantly at Miami then played minor league pinball for a couple years because he knew he couldn't handle the big leagues.

 

Wilson is senile.  They will rue the day they threw all this money at Kelly in desperation.  Mark my words!

 

Yeah, I bet he never wins a superbowl!

 

Same old Bills!

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6 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Brady is getting paid under the table and the Patriots are circumventing the salary cap. I'm 100% sure this is happing and it will be the cherry on top of their decade of cheating when it comes out. 

So what your saying is that tha Pats are paying Brady under the table and the Nfl is aware of it?

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