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Eagles sign Carson Wentz to 4 year, 128 mill extension

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11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

That made more sense when Foles was their money backup.

 

But I hear you.  Eagles were stuck paying Wentz that crazy money.

Here we go again.:beer:

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26 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

I'm a big time Wentz believer. My only point is that it would seem to make sense in this situation to wait it out. I assume he's got through 2019-20 as well as a team option for 2020-21.

 

The counter is that the contract he'd receiver after 2 healthy, productive seasons would be more expensive and more importantly, include more years. 

 

They're betting on Wentz staying healthy. If he's fully healthy, he'll be one of the best QB's in the NFL. They've been a smart organization for several years, so I'm not gonna go out of my way second guessing their strategy. Still, I'd have waited.

Essentially 3 years guaranteed here... and at absolute minimum even with injury this year you are paying him for 2-3 years 

 

quite simply put- they’d pay him lots of this even in a bad scenario with another partial season, barring horrific career ending injury. Doing it now might actually get them out earlier if needed when compared to giving him a similar deal next year anyway 

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Why the urgency to pay him now?  The guy has missed significant portions of the past 2 seasons and had a 2nd overall pick rookie contract.  Dumb. 

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35 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

But takes the Brady approach and settles for a fraction of what he’s worth in the pursuit of rings! 

 

Hey, a guy can hope! 

 

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Josh Allen could make some extra income if he starts a side business. He could call it JA17 Sports Therapy Center.

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that kind of money really turns me off to the game... I'll follow and all, but that is ridiculous.  

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53 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

But takes the Brady approach and settles for a fraction of what he’s worth in the pursuit of rings! 

 

Hey, a guy can hope! 

 

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...in this day and age of exorbitant "gimme gimme" Augie, wouldn't surprise me one bit to see this kid offer up a hometown discount and see this club through to the "Promised Land"...just sayin'.....

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4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...in this day and age of exorbitant "gimme gimme" Augie, wouldn't surprise me one bit to see this kid offer up a hometown discount and see this club through to the "Promised Land"...just sayin'.....

Believe me, I get this. But I really don’t know how different my life would be if I made $95 mil over the next 4 years vs $128 mil. I don’t hate them or blame them, but it’s SO MUCH money. I have to respect taking a little less. But I don’t hate taking what you can get. 

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

I'm so confused about this contract. Why are they doing this now?

To avoid paying even more in the future.  They're obviously convinced he's their guy.

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

Lot's of cash for a guy they have had to bring in a stunt-d**k for the money shot the past two seasons.

 

LOL...Eagles.

There you go, coming off half cocked😂

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

There you go, coming off half cocked😂

 

Thats what she said

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Just to show you the ridiculousness of these contracts I found a fun article.  We've gone from a quarterback making 1.5 million a year as a record in '86 to the new record of Russell Wilson making 35 million a year with Wentz not far behind.  With inflation Kelly's annual salary would be about 3.5 million per year today.

 

Bills Make Kelly NFL's Highest-Paid Player

 

Jim Kelly, record-setting passer in the United States Football League, became the highest-paid player in the National Football League Monday.

 

The Buffalo Bills signed Kelly to a five-year contract that, according to Kelly's agents, is worth between $7.5 million and $8 million. The salary, about $1.5 million a year, is at least $200,000 more than quarterback Joe Montana's annual pay with the San Francisco 49ers.

 

The Bills are hoping to receive instant credibility with fans after winning just 4 of their last 32 games and selling fewer than 20,000 season tickets for the second straight season.

Concurrent with Kelly's signing, the Bills announced that they had waived Art Schlichter, former Ohio State and Indianapolis Colts' quarterback.

Kelly, who worked with a run-and-shoot offense in the USFL, said he has been practicing the dropback style of passing the Bills use and hopes to be ready to play in about two weeks.

 

"I'm an athlete, I'm a competitor; whatever the situation is, I'm going to give 100%," Kelly said. "I can't promise you a Super Bowl because you're only as good as the people they put around you. If I get some help, I definitely think we can take this team to a championship."

Kelly dismissed his past statements about whether he wanted to play in Buffalo or elsewhere, saying, "Right now I'm playing for the Buffalo Bills."

Said Buffalo Coach Hank Bullough: "Kelly's our future, because he's given us something to build on. We have that one big block to build on.

"He's going to be a great impact player, as much an impact as any player can be. But there's never been the player who's turned everything around in the National Football League."

Ralph Wilson, the Bills' owner, challenged Kelly to have a career with Buffalo that would merit his placement on the Bills' "Wall of Fame," which includes O.J. Simpson, Rep. Jack F. Kemp and long-time team executive Patrick J. McGroder Jr.

 

At the Buffalo airport, after a flight from Houston, Kelly stepped off a private plane with Wilson. He posed with a football and a No. 12 jersey before heading downtown in a police-escorted limousine for a news conference.

 

At the podium, where he was joined by his parents, Kelly was flanked by team and city officials before being introduced by Wilson.

 

The Bills have been 2-14 in each of the last two seasons, and their season ticket sales are the lowest in the league. Last season, Buffalo sold just 14,500 season tickets.

 

"Mr. Wilson alluded to the fact that he's sometimes called cheap and he's sometimes castigated for not doing what he can to build a championship team," General Manager Bill Polian said. "The fact that Jim is sitting here to my left is an enduring monument to Ralph Wilson's commitment to building a winner for the city of Buffalo."

 

After news of the signing was made public Monday, lines formed at the box office at 80,290-seat Rich Stadium in suburban Orchard Park. Sales for the Sept. 7 regular-season opener against the New York Jets had reached the 30,000 mark by the end of the day, a team spokesman said.

 

The USFL suspended play two weeks ago after being awarded just $3 in damages in its antitrust suit against the NFL. The New Jersey Generals, who Kelly had joined in a merger with his team, the Houston Gamblers, gave him permission to negotiate elsewhere.

 

Last Tuesday, the Bills announced they would begin negotiations with Kelly, whose rights they held after drafting him out of the University of Miami as their second choice in the first round of the 1983 NFL draft.

 

The pick with which Kelly was chosen was obtained when the Bills traded their rights to Ohio State linebacker Tom Cousineau to the Cleveland Browns in April 1982, a deal that was much-criticized in Buffalo.

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There goes their window of contention with him eating up that much cap space

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50 minutes ago, RememberTheRockpile said:

Josh Allen could make some extra income if he starts a side business. He could call it JA17 Sports Therapy Center.

 

JA17 Sports Bar.

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Mahomes, or  one of Mayfield/Darnold/Allen will be the first 200 million dollar contract.

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2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I'm so confused about this contract. Why are they doing this now?

Because once Mahomes’ deal is up nobody will be able to afford any quarterback anymore ever.

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Bills should sign Allen to a 10 year $200M contract next year and give him $60m in the 1st year, and $120 guaranteed. Gives him alot up front and life long security. Bills get a bargan for years 2-10. Got to think out of the box to gain a competitive edge. 

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2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

But takes the Brady approach and settles for a fraction of what he’s worth in the pursuit of rings! 

 

Hey, a guy can hope! 

 

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Ok, find Josh a wife who earns $50m a year, stat!

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Bills Make Kelly NFL's Highest-Paid Player

 

Jim Kelly, record-setting passer in the United States Football League, became the highest-paid player in the National Football League Monday.

 

The Buffalo Bills signed Kelly to a five-year contract that, according to Kelly's agents, is worth between $7.5 million and $8 million. The salary, about $1.5 million a year, is at least $200,000 more than quarterback Joe Montana's annual pay with the San Francisco 49ers.

 

Are they serious?!?   More than Montana for a guy that has proven NOTHING!!  He was hurt constantly at Miami then played minor league pinball for a couple years because he knew he couldn't handle the big leagues.

 

Wilson is senile.  They will rue the day they threw all this money at Kelly in desperation.  Mark my words!

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49 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Are they serious?!?   More than Montana for a guy that has proven NOTHING!!  He was hurt constantly at Miami then played minor league pinball for a couple years because he knew he couldn't handle the big leagues.

 

Wilson is senile.  They will rue the day they threw all this money at Kelly in desperation.  Mark my words!

I’m with ya. 1.15M I could’ve still stomached, but this, this just ain’t right—1.5M to play a game???:thumbsup:

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7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

Ah, got it.

 

When people give the figure as "an extension worth ..." it's almost always a total ego massage, because they'll be getting four extra years, but the money won't only be going in those four years. It's a fake metric. The total contract, including the extension is the real way to look at it.

 

The extension is for 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024, yet he'll be receiving a huge portion of that money as a signing bonus today, in 2019. "An extension worth $X per year," is spin delivered at centrifuge speed.

 

Six years for $154M. Good deal for both sides, IMO. Wentz will lose a few mill total this way, but will be getting his signing bonus a year early, which make him safer in case of career-ending injury.

 

Good deal for Philly too. Less than $26 mill a year for Wentz.

 

 

6 hours ago, Doc said:

Why the urgency to pay him now?  The guy has missed significant portions of the past 2 seasons and had a 2nd overall pick rookie contract.  Dumb. 

 

 

They pay him now they get him for $26 mill a year. Wait a year and you end up paying him Luck money, assuming he works out. And the consensus is he will. Though you're right there are injury concerns.

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