Big Turk Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Crazy to think that the Browns might be the favorites to win their division, but i think they have to be especially after getting OBJ and adding to their already stacked offense... I would have said they have a good chance to win it prior to the trade and a better chance at being a wildcard...what are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 ESPN and dummy Stephen A Smith were asking if they’re now a top Super Bowl contender ? They might be the best in their division, but let’s slow the roll a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 It'll really depend on Mayfield, but the truth is that that Division has gone backwards, with them being the one exception. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Bengals are a mess, Pittsburgh lost 2 superstars and have an aging, unliked QB trying to keep it together for one last go at it, and the Ravens just lost half of their defense in FA. Browns are absolutely stacked with talent and have all the momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Personally, I think the Browns may implode by week 8. A lot of shallow character and egos on that team, and who is the locker room leader? Beckham? LOL. All eyes on Mayfield.. A ton of pressure is on a second year guy with a locker room to lose if he doesn’t perform like an all pro. A ton of pressure on an unproven head coach, and it is after all...Cleveland, under the ownership of the Haslams. 6-10. Edited March 13, 2019 by George C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Four really good football teams in the AFC: Patties, Chiefs, Colts, Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Bengals are a mess, Pittsburgh lost 2 superstars and have an aging, unliked QB trying to keep it together for one last go at it, and the Ravens just lost half of their defense in FA. Browns are absolutely stacked with talent and have all the momentum. They were actually pretty good last year too - lost 2 games in OT and another was a tie. They also played their first 2 games with Tyrod, and were 5-2 after they fired Todd Haley. Only major regression to the mean that i could see would be turnover diff - they were 2nd in the league in takeaways and that is a pretty volatile statistic. Teams aren't usually top 5 in the league in both fumble recoveries and INTs. The ball tends to bounce one way or the other. From a yardage perspective their defense was actually kind of bad - 25th in passing yards and 28th in rushing yards allowed. The improvements on offense should help offset this though - they should get more yards which = more plays which = more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The big signings all have to mesh well and play together as a team to win games. No one goes to the playoffs in the off season. We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I was just talking to someone this morning about this. I think they are going to now be the popular favorite, but I dont think it's a guarantee. Pittsburgh lost a WR who quit on them late in the season and his distraction may have cost them the playoffs, and a mediocre TE (not bad, but average/replaceable). Bell didnt play a down all last season so they technically already lost him last year. People assume that Ben is not liked in the lockerroom because of ABs comments, but that may or may not be true. They are still a good team and have time to make a few moves in FA and the draft that could keep them near the top of the division. Baltimore's defence took a hit (which was their strength) and are now relying on an offence led by a QB who is not viewed as much as a passing threat, buy can hurt you on the run. That team will.live and die by their offence this season and whether Lamar can be enough of a passer to keep the offence going without just relying on him scrambling. Cincy may or may not be in rebuild mode I dont think they got much worse this offseason, but i they havent really gotten any better unless you view the coaching change as a huge improvement, which might be the difference for them this season. The Browns have made the biggest splash so far, but new coaches and a QB in his second year could have them taking a step back if everything doesnt mesh together right and Mayfield doesnt continue to develop. The are one of the favorites to win the offseason this year, but that doesnt usually mean they win during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Crazy to think that the Browns might be the favorites to win their division, but i think they have to be especially after getting OBJ and adding to their already stacked offense... I would have said they have a good chance to win it prior to the trade and a better chance at being a wildcard...what are your thoughts? It's hard to say. Is it plausible? Yes, it is. Are the Steelers that much worse off than last year? Will Cincy Implode or improve? The Ravens Defense is being decimated. Tyrod 2.0 needs a lot of help because if the defense allows a lot of points ..... ouch. Am I buying that they will be the best offense in the NFL. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunesmith Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Dream Team 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, George C said: Personally, I think the Browns may implode by week 8. A lot of shallow character and egos on that team, and who is the locker room leader? Beckham? LOL. All eyes on Mayfield.. A ton of pressure is on a second year guy with a locker room to lose if he doesn’t perform like an all pro. A ton of pressure on an unproven head coach, and it is after all...Cleveland, under the ownership of the Haslams. 6-10. Agreed with the chance of implosion. I can see this team getting off to a hot start, but as soon as the going gets tough, I'd look for the fingers to start pointing and blame being placed all over the locker room. It will depend on what type of leadership they're able to identify with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I think the only reason anyone would have not to favor them at this point is their history. Comparing their roster to the Bengals/Ravens/Steelers after all of the off-season moves and they look like the team to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 They were my favorite on the back of Baker before the offseason even began. Now you add a generational talent for Baker to throw too and they are in legit contention for a super bowl. They should score points with that offense as long as they can plug the hole made by the zeitler trade. With a lead they have an extremely formidable Pass Rush with Myles garret and Olivier Vernon. This team should make plenty of noise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I voted no because Kitchens is an unproven coach. Some guys are great, brilliant coordinators and dismal head coaches. There's always potential for sophomore slump as defenses now have had an entire offseason to gameplan for your quarterback. Lots of new players takes time to mesh, especially on offense. I think they are, dare I say it, "playoff caliber" but it's not a gurantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I don't think the Ravens are a playoff team with a full season of Lamar Jackson & and a worse Defense. They're a 6-win team IMO. Steelers are really the only team besides the Browns that can win the AFC North. I'd favor the Browns at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, buffalover4life said: They were my favorite on the back of Baker before the offseason even began. Now you add a generational talent for Baker to throw too and they are in legit contention for a super bowl. They should score points with that offense as long as they can plug the hole made by the zeitler trade. With a lead they have an extremely formidable Pass Rush with Myles garret and Olivier Vernon. This team should make plenty of noise The Sabres have two generational talents and they blow chunks so who knows? I do the think Ravens are 7-9 to 10-6 and the Steelers and Bengals will be pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 57 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: The Sabres have two generational talents and they blow chunks so who knows? I do the think Ravens are 7-9 to 10-6 and the Steelers and Bengals will be pretty bad. After Dahlin, who's the other 'generational' talent? Eichel is not 'generational', unless the meaning of that term was seriously downgraded. He went 2nd overall to a true 'generational talent' and isnt even the best American born player in the league who was drafted after him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, matter2003 said: Crazy to think that the Browns might be the favorites to win their division, but i think they have to be especially after getting OBJ and adding to their already stacked offense... I would have said they have a good chance to win it prior to the trade and a better chance at being a wildcard...what are your thoughts? On paper, they're a very dangerous team. On paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Koko78 said: On paper, they're a very dangerous team. On paper. 1 Ply or 3 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Overall, the historically good teams in that division have regressed, so it seems pretty even. I'll give the Browns the edge, since they're the only team that seems to have gotten better....much better. And Mayfield's the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: 1 Ply or 3 ?? We'll find out by November, I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Overall, the historically good teams in that division have regressed, so it seems pretty even. I'll give the Browns the edge, since they're the only team that seems to have gotten better....much better. And Mayfield's the real deal. I'm with you on 1 & 2. Still not sold on #3. 1 year wonders are abundant in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 A locker room with Mayfield, OBJ and Landry led by a rookie coach seems to be a recipe for disaster. Throw in the drama with Hunt and hard to tell what the results will be on the field. That said, the other teams have taken hits and Cleveland looks to be the best of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said: A locker room with Mayfield, OBJ and Landry led by a rookie coach seems to be a recipe for disaster. Throw in the drama with Hunt and hard to tell what the results will be on the field. That said, the other teams have taken hits and Cleveland looks to be the best of the bunch. Eh, OBJ and Landry played together in college, and Mayfield doesn't seem to have had problems with landry before. I do see Hunt being a distraction though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 They have to be the favorites. Young team and I bet they love Mayfield's balls out leadership. Steelers are on life support. I think the Meanie Big Ben was completely overblown by the one D-bag who is now gone. But the talent on that team is slowly draining away. Cincy is a mess as usual. Those fans will be longing for the years when they went one and done every year in the playoffs. Ravens are at the mercy of one of the worst passing QBs in the league (get ready for every team Jackson faces to be dialing up the same abuse that even the LA Choke Kings laid on him in the wild card game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Um, they were the favorites to win the North BEFORE they traded for OBJ. They are now the OVERWHELMING favorites to win the North and will be a team that will be dangerous barring injuries. They are certainly a legit Super Bowl contender TODAY on PAPER. We wont really know how legit of a contender they are until all this starts coming together on the field. They got a pretty good front 7 and one good DB, but I am not sold on their Defense being championship ready yet. KC to me is the favorite today in the AFC even though they have had some losses in free agency so far. I expect Cleveland to try and add some secondary help rest of FA and in the Draft. If they cant get their D to be at least Solid, they COULD be better than the current SB faves out of the AFC, the Chiefs. KC Defense took some blows already this offseason, and it wasn't good to begin with. Cleveland now has more offensive talent at the skill positions than even the loaded Chiefs did last year. Doesnt mean Baker will approach Mahomes 2018 season next year, but this offense is loaded and Baker already had a very strong rookie year. So its more than reasonable to think the Browns will have one of the better offenses in the AFC. Honestly the team they most closely resemble for me right now is the Rams. Loaded offense, young QB, strong DL, terrible secondary and LBs. Like the Rams, there are individuals on the D that are very talented, but as a unit it has a lot of weaknesses and holes. If Baker can keep making progress, this team will be a threat to consistently score 30+ every week between the passing and run game. They are likely going to be tough to keep up with, but I won't truly believe they will be a serious SB contender until they can prove they can also get some stops on defense consistently enough. And right now, the secondary is a major question mark outside Ward and the LBs need help too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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