thebandit27 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Then why did Washington let him go? Best of luck to him at 33. Spotrac is your friend: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: I simply asked a question...if he's a great talent at the age of 33,why was he out on the market? Also..were the Winnipeg Blue Bombers interested in this guy? I live in the Washington/Md area and follow the Redskins. They valued him and wanted to keep him but they didn't have the cap wherewithal to retain him. When their all-pro LT Trent Williams got injured he filled in. There was no drop off in the OL's performance. Just because this player has had a long and winding journey in football that doesn't mean that he can't play. It doesn't matter if a player is a first round pick or a free agent draftee. What matters is how he actually plays. My recommendation to you is to be patient and open-minded about this player. I'm confident that you will come to the conclusion that when he gets an opportunity to play he will be better than the person he replaced. Getting better is what it is all about. This was a terrific pickup from both a talent and value standpoint. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, JohnC said: My recommendation to you is to be patient and open-minded about this player. I'm confident that you will come to the conclusion that when he gets an opportunity to play he will be better than the person he replaced. Getting better is what it is all about. This was a terrific pickup from both a talent and value standpoint. I am confident that patience, open-mindedness, and logical, just conclusions will continue to evade your interlocutor. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: I am confident that patience, open-mindedness, and logical, just conclusions will continue to evade your interlocutor. 5 points for use of an advanced noun 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: 5 points for use of an advanced noun When it comes to being a wordsmith Dr. Who can be punctilious with his usage. He earns a star. He elevates the sometimes sunken dialogue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Spotrac is your friend: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/ 3 oline in the top 9, and Alex smith's contract - that makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 hours ago, interpolitix said: Thank you buddy..I actually wasn’t aware of the ignore function. I’m gonna use it, try to be cool, and enjoy the hundreds of reasonable and like-minded Bills stans here. Hundreds? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 21 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: He absolutely shut down Clowney when they went head to head i changed my mind already. He is our starting LT. Dawkins is going back to RT where we drafted him. morse at center , long, teller and bodine battle for the 2 guard spots.. loser of long , bodine is backup Center Trying to figure out this Oline combo is like trying to figure out the Morse Code, OH wait a minute ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Cannot believe the amount of hype this dude is getting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, JM57 said: Cannot believe the amount of hype this dude is getting here. Yeah. How dare people be excited about an upgrade to the Bills' putrid offensive line on a Bills message board! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Logic said: Yeah. How dare people be excited about an upgrade to the Bills' putrid offensive line on a Bills message board! That's not exactly what I said but okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, JohnC said: I live in the Washington/Md area and follow the Redskins. They valued him and wanted to keep him but they didn't have the cap wherewithal to retain him. When their all-pro LT Trent Williams got injured he filled in. There was no drop off in the OL's performance. Just because this player has had a long and winding journey in football that doesn't mean that he can't play. It doesn't matter if a player is a first round pick or a free agent draftee. What matters is how he actually plays. My recommendation to you is to be patient and open-minded about this player. I'm confident that you will come to the conclusion that when he gets an opportunity to play he will be better than the person he replaced. Getting better is what it is all about. This was a terrific pickup from both a talent and value standpoint. Great post,John.I will do my best to be optimistic about the move...but I still want Taylor at nine. Peace 12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: How many threads are you going to piss and moan in? Everyone gets it, you hate everything. Morse will be in the pro bowl next year. Boom... Positive post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 A few people have already floated the idea of him starting at LT, and that's where I'm at right now. The Skins fans at SBN mostly seemed to think he struggled at RT for whatever reason, but played admirably when filling in at LT(almost not missing a beat). Money is starting to get a little tight, so I'm thinking Williams may not be coming over, so that leaves a hole at RT, which some posters don't want DD to move to. This creates the problem of no RT now, and no LT in the very near future. I just think it's really important that these guys are all in the right places(maybe I'm OCD). Perhaps we can draft someone to play RT this year, and then focus on LT next year? Nsekhe-DD-MM-camp battle-draft pick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: No worries. I was hesitant to use the feature at first, I thought I was being close-minded by blocking out certain opinions, then I realized some people just made me enjoy discussions less. Once I started ignoring certain posters I found that it helped a lot. I once used the ignore button on someone I found to be a bloviating and insufferable priiiiick. It turned out that I used the ignore button on myself. Does that mean that I lack self-awareness? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This dude looks beast, exciting signing of an under-the-the radar guy. Good pro scouting- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, daz28 said: A few people have already floated the idea of him starting at LT, and that's where I'm at right now. The Skins fans at SBN mostly seemed to think he struggled at RT for whatever reason, but played admirably when filling in at LT(almost not missing a beat). Money is starting to get a little tight, so I'm thinking Williams may not be coming over, so that leaves a hole at RT, which some posters don't want DD to move to. This creates the problem of no RT now, and no LT in the very near future. I just think it's really important that these guys are all in the right places(maybe I'm OCD). Perhaps we can draft someone to play RT this year, and then focus on LT next year? Nsekhe-DD-MM-camp battle-draft pick?? I also think he will beat out Dawkins for LT. We may end up drafting Jawaan Taylor or Risner, which would force Dawkins to LG- and that would give us a top-10 OL in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, JohnC said: I once used the ignore button on someone I found to be a bloviating and insufferable priiiiick. It turned out that I used the ignore button on myself. Does that mean that I lack self-awareness? What................what happens. Does it just rip a hole in the space time continuum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: How many threads are you going to piss and moan in? Everyone gets it, you hate everything. And I thought I was negative. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: And I thought I was negative. Sheesh Beasley was a great pick up,he'll most likely be hit by Allen the most,leading the team in receptions..moving the chains every game. Boom! Positive post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Not being negative but this hype train is off the rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) This guy looks like an animal in the highlights, I genuinely enjoyed watching him throw people into the stands in the AFL video. Rag-dolling Clowney for an entire game like that is impressive. I don't know enough about him to guess if he can perform consistently for sixteen games, but the highlight videos were encouraging nonetheless. Do we know if he can play on the right-side without a drop-off in play? Or would his starting require Dawkins either making the flip or kicking inside? Edited March 13, 2019 by Bills Survivor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, JM57 said: Not being negative but this hype train is off the rails. When thebandit calls someone a phenomenal signing, we all go a little bat****. You'll have to excuse us 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bills Survivor said: Rag-dolling Clowney for an entire game like that is impressive. Clowney had a sack in that game.Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Misterbluesky said: Clowney had a sack in that game.Just sayin. Mr. Gray sky strikes again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: Clowney had a sack in that game.Just sayin. Ha obviously you can tell I didn't watch the video very closely. Touche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, SWATeam said: Mr. Gray sky strikes again Dang..just stating a fact.I want this guy to work out..I hope he's a friggin stud...and for 7.7 next year,he better pancake.The arena football film does nothing for me to show what he has as far as rush blocking skills are concerned..do they run the ball in that league? I'm going to be rooting like hell for this guy to prove me wrong...and when I go out to SJF this summer...I will make sure I meet him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Clowney had a sack in that game.Just sayin. Was it against Nsekhe? I’m pretty sure I read he gave up 0 sacks last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, billspro said: Was it against Nsekhe? I’m pretty sure I read he gave up 0 sacks last season. I have no idea..I have never seen the man play.just googled the game stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, billspro said: Was it against Nsekhe? I’m pretty sure I read he gave up 0 sacks last season. I fairly certain I read he gave up 0 sacks at LT last year. if he was playing LT that game then clowneys sacks didn't come against him..... I think its fairly evident that little tidbit isn't gonna disparage bluesky from trying to piss in this threads cheerios though.... he'll find something else. Edited March 13, 2019 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I see Ty playing LT and moving Dawkins to RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Clowney had a sack in that game.Just sayin. Not against Nsekhe. Just sayin. From 9:08: https://youtu.be/pwZxORO6vsg?t=548 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, papazoid said: I see Ty playing LT and moving Dawkins to RT Let me ask you,straight up..do you see any weakness in Taylor...do you watch the Gators on Saturdays against other SEC teams? I rank the SEC well above the arena game. I can only judge players by what I view. He better be a lane maker for Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Clowney had a sack in that game.Just sayin. It wasn’t against him. Just sayin’. Lighten up, Mr.grayskies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: It wasn’t against him. Just sayin’. Lighten up, Mr.grayskies! Will do,sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, syhuang said: Not against Nsekhe. Just sayin. From 9:08: https://youtu.be/pwZxORO6vsg?t=548 Nsekhe just dominating his guy on that play. Looking forward to seeing him play in a Bills uni. He has earned this chance to start by the sounds of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Let me ask you,straight up..do you see any weakness in Taylor...do you watch the Gators on Saturdays against other SEC teams? I rank the SEC well above the arena game. I can only judge players by what I view. He better be a lane maker for Shady. Taylor is a beast. I would love to have him at RT. Dawkins would be moving to G if we drafted him. We would have a dominant line though. Taylor is probably drafted before our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: Dang..just stating a fact.I want this guy to work out..I hope he's a friggin stud...and for 7.7 next year,he better pancake.The arena football film does nothing for me to show what he has as far as rush blocking skills are concerned..do they run the ball in that league? I'm going to be rooting like hell for this guy to prove me wrong...and when I go out to SJF this summer...I will make sure I meet him. His salary is 2 years 14.5 million, but only 7.7 is guaranteed. So the Bills could cut him after one year, pay 7.7 for a '2 year contract', or 3.7 mill a year and recoup almost 7 million to the cap next year, with about a 3 million dollar dead cap hit. The full details aren't out on Sporttrac, so I can only go on years, total and guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) I could take or leave barnwell but he has this signing rated as a B+ which ties it at the top of the FA signing list of his at ESPN. Tied with a handful of others at the top with that grade. He mentions the only thing that kept him from an A was his knack for timely penalties. While that could grow tiresome real quick, I think its evident that this is regarded league wide as a very nice signing. Ty Nsekhe, OT, Buffalo Bills The deal: Two years, $14.5 million with $7.7 million guaranteed Grade: B+ There's a lot to like with Buffalo signing Nsekhe, who was the swing tackle on an injury-hit Washington line last season. The Bills aren't making an enormous commitment to the 33-year-old tackle, given his age, but they did get what amounts to a second-year option if the former Arena League lineman doesn't impress in a starting role. The Bills have a need at tackle, and while I thought general manager Brandon Beane might target former Panthers tackle Daryl Williams, Nsekhe should immediately step in as a starter at one of the two tackle spots. Dion Dawkins struggled in 2018, his first full season as the starter on the left side, while Nsekhe was impressive when filling in for the injured Trent Williams at left tackle. During his four seasons in Washington, Nsekhe started 16 games and allowed just five sacks, per Stats LLC. He notably handled Jadeveon Clowney when Washington faced the Texans last season. There are two concerns keeping this from being an A grade. One is Nsekhe's propensity for penalties. He recorded seven on just 377 snaps a year ago and has 15 across 1,226 offensive snaps from his four seasons in Washington. I would be worried about the penalties popping up in Buffalo, especially given how frequently Josh Allen is inclined to scramble out of the pocket to try to make plays. As Damien Woody noted on Twitter, Nsekhe's offensive line coach in Washington was Bill Callahan, who might very well be the best in football. The Bills just hired new offensive line coach Bobby Johnson, who has been an assistant offensive line coach and a tight ends coach in years past but will be running an offensive line room himself for the first time as an NFL coach Edited March 13, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I think he has a chance to start at RT. I'm sorry but I am not moving my hand picked, 24 year old left tackle to another position for a 33 year old journeyman, one year wonder. It makes zero sense. I'm not hating on Nsehke, I'm simply stating that Dion Dawkins need to stay at left tackle until he proves that he can't do it. He's struggled a bit, but moving him off the position at this point makes no sense, especially for an older player who might just be here for a year or two. Development is important and I am confident Dion will be better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 hours ago, syhuang said: Not against Nsekhe. Just sayin. From 9:08: https://youtu.be/pwZxORO6vsg?t=548 Haha wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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