MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 With Gore ? Kraft, Morse and Johnson on board. What I would love to see happen come actual Free Agency. Sign Saffold Sign Williams (RT) Trade 4th for Nelson Agholor Sign Ansah maybe another TE like Gresham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Yeah I can’t see that happening. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 We would run out of cap space before we finished signing all those players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With Gore ? Kraft, Morse and Johnson on board. What I would love to see happen come actual Free Agency. Sign Saffold Sign Williams (RT) Trade 4th for Nelson Agholor Sign Ansah maybe another TE like Gresham. I would love to see an OLB also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dje85 said: We would run out of cap space before we finished signing all those players. Yeah i think some people fail to realize they aren’t going to spend it down to $0. They also need money for their draft picks and Beane has said he likes to keep some space available for in season signings etc. i think maybe one one or two bigger contact guys then the rest will be bargain guys later Edited March 12, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, dje85 said: We would run out of cap space before we finished signing all those players. Speaking of which, how much cap space do the Bills have left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, dje85 said: We would run out of cap space before we finished signing all those players. I think they would have plenty of cap space left after. All those players wouldn't be getting $20m per season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Speaking of which, how much cap space do the Bills have left? Too early to tell.. Not all deals are final and official numbers released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, dje85 said: We would run out of cap space before we finished signing all those players. No we wouldn’t. Agholor or would be lower than his 9M Saffold call it 12 per Williams is probably 10 per ansah is probably 10 per (Max) Gresham is likely 5 per at this point. That is roughly 50M more than enough space to fit in top 51 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With Gore ? Kraft, Morse and Johnson on board. What I would love to see happen come actual Free Agency. Sign Saffold Sign Williams (RT) Trade 4th for Nelson Agholor Sign Ansah maybe another TE like Gresham. I think you are missing Juwan James for the other tackle.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Mark Vader said: Speaking of which, how much cap space do the Bills have left? We had roughly 77 going into today and if all quoted signing figures are correct the deals we made today are 19.5 million. So roughly 58 million before rookie contracts are added in as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Yeah i think some people fail to realize they aren’t going to spend it down to $0. They also need money for their draft picks and Beane has said he likes to keep some space available for in season signings etc. I think what people fail to realize is the cap isn’t a inhibitor at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Sign Jawaun James. Draft DK Metcalf, Whiteside, Jace Sternberger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, klos63 said: I think they would have plenty of cap space left after. All those players wouldn't be getting $20m per season Just roundabouting.. Morse, Kroft, Gore I’d imagine will be taking up 20ish of the 75 they had going in. Johnson’s deal isn’t known and money needed for rookies so it’s definitely going down a bit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I think you are missing Juwan James for the other tackle.. I don’t think they are replacing Dawkins at LT so looking for a RT and that would be Williams in my scenario. He would be cheaper than James. Could add James instead of Williams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With Gore ? Kraft, Morse and Johnson on board. What I would love to see happen come actual Free Agency. Sign Saffold Sign Williams (RT) Trade 4th for Nelson Agholor Sign Ansah maybe another TE like Gresham. I would kinda agree on the positions, but maybe aim a little lower. Ansah will probably be waaaaay too expensive with what Hughes and Murphy have tied up at ends. Agholor I would support even as a one year rental. i think Williams is probably priority #1 left for them. To be short I think Williams might be the only “big name” kinda signing left they will try for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, dje85 said: We had roughly 77 going into today and if all quoted signing figures are correct the deals we made today are 19.5 million. So roughly 58 million before rookie contracts are added in as well. Mans saved 2-3M with the additions as well because it kicks 4 players off the top 51 so closer to spending 16M on day one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I think a 4th for Algholor is high.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: I don’t think they are replacing Dawkins at LT so looking for a RT and that would be Williams in my scenario. He would be cheaper than James. Could add James instead of Williams Well good luck then... I would be over the moon with either of Saffold or Williams in addition to Morse, let alone both of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: No we wouldn’t. Agholor or would be lower than his 9M Saffold call it 12 per Williams is probably 10 per ansah is probably 10 per (Max) Gresham is likely 5 per at this point. That is roughly 50M more than enough space to fit in top 51 Williams will get closer to 12 or 13, Ansah will get well over 10 probably closer to 11 or 12, Gresham 6 or 7 based on te contracts being thrown out so far, Sffold will get 12 likely, and Agholor is curently on a 9.3 million per year contract but like every ther traded wr h would want a new contract / raise especially if traded to buffalo so we will say 13ish based on Funchesses contract. Yeah we don't have enough to pay them all and rookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufridr101 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Juwann James plus maybe sign Robbie Anderson he's currently tendered with a 2nd he really turned it on down the stretch last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: I would kinda agree on the positions, but maybe aim a little lower. Ansah will probably be waaaaay too expensive with what Hughes and Murphy have tied up at ends. Agholor I would support even as a one year rental. i think Williams is probably priority #1 left for them. To be short I think Williams might be the only “big name” kinda signing left they will try for Murphy’s contract is an easy get out of for me with Shaq taking his snaps and he was hurt yet again I would take the 3.5M dead and save the 5M when I cut Murphy 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: I think a 4th for Algholor is high.. Might be able to use a 5th too. Think we have two there 1 minute ago, dje85 said: Williams will get closer to 12 or 13, Ansah will get well over 10 probably closer to 11 or 12, Gresham 6 or 7 based on te contracts being thrown out so far, Sffold will get 12 likely, and Agholor is curently on a 9.3 million per year contract but like every ther traded wr h would want a new contract / raise especially if traded to buffalo so we will say 13ish based on Funchesses contract. Yeah we don't have enough to pay them all and rookies. Agholor a new contract would lower this years Cap though just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think a 4th for Algholor is high.. I'll send a 4th to Denver for Manny Sanders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Well good luck then... I would be over the moon with either of Saffold or Williams in addition to Morse, let alone both of them... I am going with the thought of Dawkins playing next to a legit LG like Incognito he returns back to form that was considered an up and coming young LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Murphy’s contract is an easy get out of for me with Shaq taking his snaps and he was hurt yet again I would take the 3.5M dead and save the 5M when I cut Murphy Might be able to use a 5th too. Think we have two there Agholor a new contract would lower this years Cap though just saying. True we could cut some guys to get more cap space to make it work. I wont argue there. We actually save Cap overall from signing Gore if we cut Ivory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Just roundabouting.. Morse, Kroft, Gore I’d imagine will be taking up 20ish of the 75 they had going in. Johnson’s deal isn’t known and money needed for rookies so it’s definitely going down a bit. Also there are still a lot of money savings moves Bills could make after replacements are secure Ivory Murphy OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 With the rookie contracts and what they spent today they should have roughly 39 million left depending on what Johnson gets. I would imagine they keep 8 to 12 million for.roll over cap and in season free agent signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End The Drought Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) T Daryl Williams G Roger Saffold Edge Ziggy Ansah WR Randall Cobb WR Cole Beasley LB Thomas Davis other options Edge Zadarius Smith DT Darius Philon LB Anthony Barr Edited March 12, 2019 by End The Drought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Yeah i think some people fail to realize they aren’t going to spend it down to $0. They also need money for their draft picks and Beane has said he likes to keep some space available for in season signings etc. i think maybe one one or two bigger contact guys then the rest will be bargain guys later Unfortunately two of of three of our acquisitions are bargain guys. A TE2 and a 35 year old RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Just roundabouting.. Morse, Kroft, Gore I’d imagine will be taking up 20ish of the 75 they had going in. Johnson’s deal isn’t known and money needed for rookies so it’s definitely going down a bit. not to nitpick, but 20ish isn't very specific. 11+6+2 with those 3, less 2 from ivory. That's 17M- . It's going to go down , that's just how it works. I wouldn't worry about the cap. Plus, we'll probably release a vet or 2 during camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, klos63 said: not to nitpick, but 20ish isn't very specific. 11+6+2 with those 3, less 2 from ivory. That's 17M- . It's going to go down , that's just how it works. I wouldn't worry about the cap. Plus, we'll probably release a vet or 2 during camp. When In that paragraph did I say I was being specific? It was purely a guess take it as such Edited March 12, 2019 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, CaptnCoke11 said: When In that paragraph did I say I was being specific? It was purely a guess take it as such you didn't, but if you're worrying about actual cap numbers, being more specific helps. Not a biggie, not trying to start a fight here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With Gore ? Kraft, Morse and Johnson on board. What I would love to see happen come actual Free Agency. Sign Saffold Sign Williams (RT) Trade 4th for Nelson Agholor Sign Ansah maybe another TE like Gresham. I would be very pleased with: Darryl Williams.....$12M x 5 Ziggy Ansah........creative short term deal that pays him near top dollar if he plays well Thomas Davis......cheap 1 year deal($2M with incentives up to $4.5M).....chance to compete for starting job opposite Milano and he traditionally plays Milano's position in the D so top reserve to Milano if injuries keep happening to MM.......Lorax more pass rush role They need some kind of vet WR added..........need leadership in that room to set the tone for Foster and the draftees(there will be multiple IMO). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fansince88 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 48 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With Gore ? Kraft, Morse and Johnson on board. What I would love to see happen come actual Free Agency. Sign Saffold Sign Williams (RT) Trade 4th for Nelson Agholor Sign Ansah maybe another TE like Gresham. You missed a couple from the last month. Also, look for the Pryor/Hyde type signings. I dont want them to spend to the cap again. Build the base through the draft and stop chasing the big names. Draft your own big names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ok, I like this post. I didn’t want to start a new post about this next point so I’ll put it into this one. I made a post several days ago about the Bills potentially being players for OBJ. Since then they were associated with possibly trading for Antonio Brown and I have seen people around here suggesting Julio Jones and A.J. Green, all the big time WRs in today’s game. Regardless of which one I think that if Buffalo were to add another G AND RT (Williams off James) than trading for 1 of these WRs (sans Brown) using the #9 pick overall and somevother compensation would not be farfetched imo. A revamped OL, Josh in his 2nd year, adding TE Kraft coupled with what I believe will be the emergence of Croom and fortifying the RB position would make this a pretty efficient offense but would need that 1 big time WR to make the rest of our young WRs even more effective. Now the flip side while all that comes into play if the Bills don’t trade for a stud WR then they will, IMO, defat a top prospect. Hopefully they don’t use their 1st rd pick on one, and I don’t think that they do, then Ivwould like to see them use their 2nd rder on one. Now if they feel that the 2nd rder wouldn’t be early enough to grab a top prospect then I wouldn’t be against them adding a 3rd or a 4th rder to move up earlier to grab some one like K’Neal Harry. The other thing that I think might have been better for them in the future cap situation would have been to only have given Morse a 3 year contract and then drafted someone like Erik McCoy with one of 3rd rder. This would have served a twofold benefit. The first thing is McCoy I believe is quality and can also play G, so adding him not only for the versatility but also the depth. Secondly a 3 year contract for Morse would be plenty of time to know if (a) he can stay healthy and (b) that he’s good fit/ability. Signing McCoy to a 4 year deal would give the Bills better leverage when it comes to a new contract for Morse. If both end up playing with great ability then the Bills could cash 1 of them out for trade value. That’s how the more successful franchises keep their train rolling. Just some thoughts. This is by far my favorite part and time of the NFL. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: I would kinda agree on the positions, but maybe aim a little lower. Ansah will probably be waaaaay too expensive with what Hughes and Murphy have tied up at ends. Agholor I would support even as a one year rental. i think Williams is probably priority #1 left for them. To be short I think Williams might be the only “big name” kinda signing left they will try for I think you can sign Ansah to the right deal (high number but not garanteed) and the let him compete with Murphy. Cut one before season start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, End The Drought said: T Daryl Williams G Roger Saffold Edge Ziggy Ansah WR Randall Cobb WR Cole Beasley LB Thomas Davis other options Edge Zadarius Smith DT Darius Philon LB Anthony Barr Well u can cross Barr off your list, looks like the Jests just picked him up. I'm not sure if he wouldve been a good fit for us anyways, but I'd be happy to have the other players you listed however. Edited March 12, 2019 by brianthomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Jamison Crowder would have been the ideal slot receiver. Looks like the Jets may be beating us to punch here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, dje85 said: We had roughly 77 going into today and if all quoted signing figures are correct the deals we made today are 19.5 million. So roughly 58 million before rookie contracts are added in as well. I don’t disagree that we can manage the cap to sign those players but Morse’s is 19 mill this year. I have 19 + 7 (Kraft) + 2 (Gore) + Johnson (didn’t see the #s) - 4 * min contracts = 26 mil +. Again we can do things to manage to get the listed players but one thing I wouldn’t do is mortgage the future after doing such a good job front loading contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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